Spectre: Bond 24 Official Thread

[Roman Brady]

Again I'm asking why didnt it work for Bond? That's what I'm asking breh. What about what he did for Bond didn't work?

the foggy hue, the countless panned shots of landscape, getting into bond's backstory, turning M into alfred, javier's joker influence part, the pretentious attempt to turn what has always been (sans a special here and there) a high octane action film into some slowed down plodding shakespearean movie. It just felt like bond in name alone

 

[MartyMcFly]

the foggy hue, the countless panned shots of landscape, getting into bond's backstory, turning M into alfred, javier's joker influence part, the pretentious attempt to turn what has always been (sans a special here and there) a high octane action film into some slowed down plodding shakespearean movie. It just felt like bond in name alone

Bond's backstory has always been there. They've explored it briefly before, as recently as Casino Royale and I feel it worked breh. You can't keep making the same movie for 50 years. The reason Bond has survived for 50 years is because of constant reinvention. Sean played him one way which was different than how Roger played him which was different than how Timothy played him which was different than how Pierce played him and the movies reflected that. The movies are fluid because the actors playing them have their own idea of who this guy is and what works for him, which is why you have more comedy in roger moore films vs Sean's films or why with Dalton, you get something as serious as License to Kill because that's the way he saw him.

Didn't see M as his alfred at all and I'll agree with you that Silva was the joker, but he did a good job so I saw no need to complain and the movie was made better for it. What Mendes did was a true character study on Bond, which is something Craig has been interested in since he signed up for the role, which is what Dalton wanted to do but never got the chance to. It's never Bond in name alone because according to 50 years of history, you can take the character in whatever direction you feel and sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't but all of the guys playing him, even Lazenby, portrayed him in a way that felt real to them

 

[TheGodling]

The skyfall disapproval stuns me breh

It's just not an exciting movie, at all. It's tedious, boring, long-winded and as I've said before, just because it paints a pretty picture doesn't make watching the paint dry any better. There's no point in the whole "Bond is killed in action" opening when he just pops up in the very next scene and everybody no sells it. Silva was literally TDK Joker except he was plot protected even worse. His whole plan during the MI6 attack basically was "everything goes according to my plan, even when things happen that totally weren't part of the plan". The Home Alone siege of the ol' Bond mansion could've been great but it was so generic in execution that it didn't do anything for me There was no interesting angle to it whatsoever and they telegraphed M's death so bad I just let out a big sigh when it happened. I really don't like the movie and even believe that no matter how fukked that movie was in every single department, QoS actually had a better idea of what it was going for. I'm not saying it's a better movie, absolutely not, but at least it's an interesting failure while Skyfall just isn't interesting.

 

[karim]

Corny doe?? I feel like people can't express why exactly they didn't like something and fallback on the "it's corny" insult, I mean, how the fukk is skyfall "corny"??? Corny isn't a word I'd use to describe Quantum either...

skyfall overdid the whole parents and relationship to m thing and turned into a completely different movie once they went to scotland. that shyt felt like the deer hunter or something. it also had some huge ass plotholes and didn't really make good use of one of the most charismatic bond villains in ages.

 

[Sensitive Blake Griffin]

skyfall overdid the whole parents and relationship to m thing and turned into a completely different movie once they went to scotland. that shyt felt like the deer hunter or something. it also had some huge ass plotholes and didn't really make good use of one of the most charismatic bond villains in ages.

None of what you described fits the description of "corny" I mean, it's well known Bond was an orphan so obviously M would be a mother figure to him...I can concede they could've done a better job with the villain but it's still overall a pretty dope flick.

 

[MartyMcFly]

skyfall overdid the whole parents and relationship to m thing and turned into a completely different movie once they went to scotland. that shyt felt like the deer hunter or something. it also had some huge ass plotholes and didn't really make good use of one of the most charismatic bond villains in ages.

Breh they were banging the mother figure thing since casino royale tho.

 

[Won Won]

Silva was literally TDK Joker except he was plot protected even worse. His whole plan during the MI6 attack basically was "everything goes according to my plan, even when things happen that totally weren't part of the plan".

YES

That shyt is wet cardboard when you actually think of Silva's entire plan

And then there's Moneypenny shooting only once. The train never stopping when cars are ripped in half. The Mission Impossible bite of the list of undercover agents which is never resolved or brought up again. Sending a text to just one person to warn M that people are coming for her. Taking M away from any help, except for your 80 year old family housekeeper. Q plugging the villain's computer straight into the MI6 network.

 

[OmegaK2099]

so theyre portraying spectre like the illuminati

 

[MartyMcFly]

so theyre portraying spectre like the illuminati

which they've kinda been to a point in the sense that they take claim for all the worlds terrorism and anything resembling terrorism

 

[Scottie Drippin]

I hope to god nikkas aren't talking about logic in a film series that once featured a plot to wipe out the entire human race via nerv gas launched from a space station, and then the world repopulated with a genetic manufactured superior race.

 

[MartyMcFly]

I hope to god nikkas aren't talking about logic in a film series that once featured a plot to wipe out the entire human race via nerv gas launched from a space station, and then the world repopulated with a genetic manufactured superior race.

If I can accept a damn pigeon doing a damn double take lol

 

[karim]

Breh they were banging the mother figure thing since casino royale tho.

yes, but they subtly hinted at it in the other movies, they overdid it in skyfall to a point where it felt corny.

 

[karim]

I hope to god nikkas aren't talking about logic in a film series that once featured a plot to wipe out the entire human race via nerv gas launched from a space station, and then the world repopulated with a genetic manufactured superior race.

moonraker is among the corniest bond movies, i don't think anybody would try to argue otherwise. not only that, they basically released two movies with the same plot back to back. moonraker is the spy who loved me set in space. and they only send bond to space because of the success of star wars.

 

[Roman Brady]

Bond's backstory has always been there. They've explored it briefly before, as recently as Casino Royale

that was a special of sorts, it was like a reboot/prequel mesh

and I feel it worked breh. You can't keep making the same movie for 50 years. The reason Bond has survived for 50 years is because of constant reinvention

one person's reinvention is anothers swagger jacking, it worked with live and let die when they attempted blaxploitation. It worked with royale when they attempted Bourne. Other times like brosnans attempting to do die hard it was an epic fail. And Mendes trying to do Nolan for bond just looks ugly

Didn't see M as his alfred at all and I'll agree with you that Silva was the joker, but he did a good job so I saw no need to complain and the movie was made better for it. What Mendes did was a true character study on Bond, which is something Craig has been interested in since he signed up for the role, which is what Dalton wanted to do but never got the chance to. It's never Bond in name alone because according to 50 years of history, you can take the character in whatever direction you feel and sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't but all of the guys playing him, even Lazenby, portrayed him in a way that felt real to them

so if they wanted to turn the franchise into a slapstick comedy that would flow?

 

[MartyMcFly]

that was a special of sorts, it was like a reboot/prequel mesh one person's reinvention is anothers swagger jacking, it worked with live and let die when they attempted blaxploitation. It worked with royale when they attempted Bourne. Other times like brosnans attempting to do die hard it was an epic fail. And Mendes trying to do Nolan for bond just looks ugly so if they wanted to turn the franchise into a slapstick comedy that would flow?

You've seen roger Moore breh it may as well have been slapstick comedy with moonraker and the spy who loved me.

I think it worked breh. It worked for me as fanatic of the series and witnessed it's ups and downs

yes, but they subtly hinted at it in the other movies, they overdid it in skyfall to a point where it felt corny.

Subtle? In quantum of solace there's a piece of dialogue where she asks is M his mother and he says she likes to think so. It hasn't been subtle.