Spanking Kids Can Lead to More Aggressive Behavior

[Elle Driver]

I never got spanked cause I was my father's only daughter out of 10 children, and he didn't think it was necessary. My mother didn't either. I would get lectured by my father for hours upon hours and that shyt was more torturous than getting beats. That was effective for me cause I hate getting lectured, or sitting somewhere and listening to someone talk down to me for hours.

Sometimes though, since I did a lot of dance as a child, I would be forced to do ridiculous practices over and over again. That shyt made me hate life as a child, I'd just rather get my beats and get it over with to be honest.

 

[Ziggiy]

Agressive behavior isn't just violence. It can be just competing with your mate or friend. This is not healthy for a good relationship, and conducive for a child to grow up with a healthy mind.

Men by NATURE are competitive though, perhaps not with our spouses but with our other male friends certainly. Aggression is just a natural part of being a man, aggression without some form of SELF DISCIPLINE is the problem

 

[Lana Kane]

fukk they use to make us do that as punishment in basic training, arms straight out and everything. I seen grown ass men with tears of agony falling down their faces from that shyt. I would NEVER EVER make my child do no shyt like that. I'd rather give them a quick ass whoopin and send them about their way then subject them to that torture

my mom was taking army tips for punishment
The first time we did it, my leg was shaking so bad I wanted to die. My sister nearly passed the fukk out. Although it helped me in my later years for track and volleyball.

 

[sfgiants]

I got the shyt beat out of me and i'm a better person for it

I can honestly say i deserved most if not all of my beatings. Pissing in a super soaker during a water fight with my neighbors kids and the kids goin home and their parents smelling piss on them yea i needed a thrashing after that shyt

 

[bouncy]

Men by NATURE are competitive though, perhaps not with our spouses but with our other male friends certainly. Aggression is just a natural part of being a man, aggression without some form of SELF DISCIPLINE is the problem

No, I can be aggressive towards others but not my lady, family, to an extent, or my best friend. That is NOT healthy. It causes an environment where everyone is out for themselves, and out to get what they can get. Does that sound familiar?.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

So it's normal to compete, and be aggressive with your lady or best friend?

Damn right it is. Society has removed a lot of the pressures that lead towards that competition, which is why those who have not had the chance to benefit from society are usualy more prone to competition and aggression.

 

[bouncy]

Damn right it is. Society has removed a lot of the pressures that lead towards that competition, which is why those who have not had the chance to benefit from society are usualy more prone to competition and aggression.

Hey that is your belief but, I tried it, and it doesn't work. Too much fussing happens. I'm done with the shyt. When I'm around strangers, yeah I'm competing to the fullest, but when I'm in my house or around close friends/family, I just want to relax, enjoy life, and help build them up to live their dreams. As you get older that competing with EVERYONE shyt is for the birds. Yeah, competing in little things like who can make something better isn't bad since it betters everyone talent but when it comes to money or what you have that doesn't help anyone.

 

[Blackking]

It worked for us, but it depends what you're using this punishment for.
She used it for when one of us were lying about something so she would put all three of us on it until we fall or someone fesses up.

She was smart then... I think it should only be used for lying... as it is a slight form of torture..

The way we explain it is... you can do what u want, but if you lie it's the worse, because when a situation comes up we can't defend u from teachers and people if we can't even trust u.

 

[Blackking]

fukk they use to make us do that as punishment in basic training, arms straight out and everything. I seen grown ass men with tears of agony falling down their faces from that shyt. I would NEVER EVER make my child do no shyt like that. I'd rather give them a quick ass whoopin and send them about their way then subject them to that torture

I was ALWAYS that nikka that moved in formation... or talked in formation.

On time i was talking about the girls marching by and was like, "these bytches gett badder every week after being here for so long" and some cac snitch.

Military plays some sick games, because I never did push ups or that arms out shyt for my talking... ... instead I was force to point and laugh at the group while they did it. You should already know y that was worse.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Hey that is your belief but, I tried it, and it doesn't work. Too much fussing happens. I'm done with the shyt. When I'm around strangers, yeah I'm competing to the fullest, but when I'm in my house or around close friends/family, I just want to relax, enjoy life, and help build them up to live their dreams. As you get older that competing with EVERYONE shyt is for the birds.

Depends on what you mean by competition. There is a such thing as healthy competition you know.

Playing ball against your boys, you should want to win. But it shouldn't effect you to where you want to do bad things to get the win.

Being aggressive with your girl is also needed. This doesn't mean bussing her upside the head when she doesn't listen, but there are times when you need to be stern with her.

It's about discretion and common sense. You should be able to control your aggression and your urge to compete, but having those feelings are normal human behavior.

 

[ExodusNirvana]

I agree with this somewhat.

The day my old man stopped spanking me was the day I stood up to him around 15 took off my shirt and you could see the terror in his eyes.

if he had touched me again, I think the worst could have happened. I was ready to fight back.

I still regret it but it was a necessary evil

Let's be real...you took your shirt off and he beat your ass some more but you're still proud that you did it, and we get that, but let's be reality with friends, friend.

 

[unit321]

Do you think this is why black/latins tend to be so aggressive with each other?

The study says when a mother does it at age 5 or before this happens but, when a father does it, the kids just have a lowered vocabulary!. I think when a child grows up the way you talk to them plays a bigger part then the spankings but, if you do both, then the child is at a high risk for problems later in life. I speak from experience. I got used to getting spankings but it never stopped me from doing what I wanted, I just thought more about what I was going to do to see if it was worth the spanking. If I got in trouble I would just prepare myself for the spanking but, the way I was talked to hurt me more then the spankings. That still effects me to this day.

This study is very important for our community since we are taught spankings are good and do it a lot to kids at young ages. What do y'all think?

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/10/21/us-usa-health-kids-aggression-idUSBRE99K02820131021

Spanking by mothers at least twice a week was tied to a two-point increase on a 70-point scale of problem behavior. That was after the researchers took into account children's behavior at younger ages and other family characteristics.

There was no link between spanking by parents at age three and children's later behavior, however.

Kids also tended to score lower on vocabulary tests when they had been regularly spanked by their fathers at age five, MacKenzie and his colleagues write in Pediatrics.

Well, there are two issues.
1. If you don't spank the child, you raise a lawless kid, i.e. they can get away with anything and they know it because they know there are no negative consequences. These kids push the envelope too and as they get older, you see that the kid controls the parent and not the other way around. When you see it, it is so fubarred up.
2. The other thing is if you spank the child, the parent needs to use it a negative consequence and explain to them why they got the spanking. If the adult hits the child for no reason, i.e. not related to negative behavior of the child according to set rules, then, it is child abuse. The liberal people "always" relate spanking to child abuse and they are not "open" minded to believe or accept that the generations before them were raised in a spanking-as-corporal-punishment childhood. And in those generations past, there weren't mass shootings in school by children, there wasn't bullying to the extent of suicide, there wasn't teen pregnancy, there wasn't drug and alcohol abuse, there weren't children taking medication for behavior problems and there weren't children joining gangs and committing crimes-against-persons felonies to include murder, rape, robbery, and physical assault by mob.

 

[Easy-E]

Whoppin's are overrated.

I look at my family--all of 'em got whooped--and I don't see scientists, a bunch of lawyers (one, I can think of), dentists, teachers, etc. I disrespect, but, whoopin's aren't makin' black folks successful--real success, not "Oh, I'm not in jail, I have a job, a house and a car." These #blackexcellence child geniuses aren't that because they are hit, with a belt, for not comin' home before the lights are on.

I've already read studies suggesting whoopin's are detrimental to a child's mind--I think Ebony did a story, on this. I do see a lot of angry and emotional instability, in my family.

Real brief; I got whoopin's, but, really didn't need 'em.

I behaved because I had a sense of responsiblilty instilled in me. I stop gettin' whoopin's, really, around 12. I didn't need 'em. I mostly would get one because my father held me responsible for my little brother's actions.

My lil' brother, on the other hand, got 'em all the time. Mostly, because, he didn't have that sense of responsiblities, because I had to go down, with him (I'm makin' a complex situation, simple, but; I hope you get it).

He wasn't a problem child, just, way more emotional than me (I was the quiet, humble, 'suffer in silence' child) and more bold--not disrespectful. He felt something was unfair, he had to let it be known.

He was ALOT like my father.

So, my dad tried to "break" him and all it did was ruin their relationship.

Back to me; the worst whoppin' I ever had was for shopliftin' at Wal-Mart. I got caught, Dad came for me and beat me like a slave...two weeks later I was back shoplifting.

Now, you read that and think, "Oh, you deserve it." And, yes, I deserved punishment for it.

But, put into context; My parent's had just seperated (eventually divorced) and my home life was tough. No, mom, at home, meant more free time for an emotionally hurt child (11, 12, 13 y.o.). Somehow, I gave to shoplifting grocery stores to deal with those emotions.

My Dad wouldn't want to hear it, now, but; my problem wasn't I was a theavin' demon, I needed help. Yo, we went THROUGH IT, during those times.


Kids need to be dealed with like a person. They are just little people :inlove: ( I don't want one, though--not for a while). Take the sugar out of their diets, turn the TV's and phones off and talk to them.

Children don't just choose to be disrepectful...

I really feel like I'm gonna write a novel, but; you can't teach your kids; the punishment for mistakes are violence, because; that's not the real world.

My Dad whooped us too much, but; he did have a good excuse of not knowing any other way and, himself, goin' thru a tough time and not having time to one-on-one with 3 kids (Boy, Boy, Girl).

There's too many non-violent ways to discpline children...man, I really want to go in, but, no one will read it

Why even proofread?

 

[bouncy]

Well, there are two issues.
1. If you don't spank the child, you raise a lawless kid, i.e. they can get away with anything and they know it because they know there are no negative consequences. These kids push the envelope too and as they get older, you see that the kid controls the parent and not the other way around. When you see it, it is so fubarred up.
2. The other thing is if you spank the child, the parent needs to use it a negative consequence and explain to them why they got the spanking. If the adult hits the child for no reason, i.e. not related to negative behavior of the child according to set rules, then, it is child abuse. The liberal people "always" relate spanking to child abuse and they are not "open" minded to believe or accept that the generations before them were raised in a spanking-as-corporal-punishment childhood. And in those generations past, there weren't mass shootings in school by children, there wasn't bullying to the extent of suicide, there wasn't teen pregnancy, there wasn't drug and alcohol abuse, there weren't children taking medication for behavior problems and there weren't children joining gangs and committing crimes-against-persons felonies to include murder, rape, robbery, and physical assault by mob.

I agree to an extent. There was alcohol abuse as well as smoking abuse, it just was accepted. There was bullying, and bullying to an extreme on others, it was called Jim Crow. Gangs were around, anyone in NYC knows this. Kids weren't taking medications but they were smoking tobacco all the time or drinking. Once you talk to older people who will tell you the truth such as street people, you notice they had a lot of bullshyt we have today but, it isn't as extreme as it is now but that is because kids have more things to do, and more outlets to show this aggression. Back then there wasn't shyt to do, as well as there were less people in the country so it was more of a small town feel. Also, because it was other races in the country people could use that aggression on others whereas other countries it is mostly one group so that aggression shows in other ways.

 

[bouncy]

Whoppin's are overrated.

I look at my family--all of 'em got whooped--and I don't see scientists, a bunch of lawyers (one, I can think of), dentists, teachers, etc. I disrespect, but, whoopin's aren't makin' black folks successful--real success, not "Oh, I'm not in jail, I have a job, a house and a car." These #blackexcellence child geniuses aren't that because they are hit, with a belt, for not comin' home before the lights are on.

I've already read studies suggesting whoopin's are detrimental to a child's mind--I think Ebony did a story, on this. I do see a lot of angry and emotional instability, in my family.

Real brief; I got whoopin's, but, really didn't need 'em.

I behaved because I had a sense of responsiblilty instilled in me. I stop gettin' whoopin's, really, around 12. I didn't need 'em. I mostly would get one because my father held me responsible for my little brother's actions.

My lil' brother, on the other hand, got 'em all the time. Mostly, because, he didn't have that sense of responsiblities, because I had to go down, with him (I'm makin' a complex situation, simple, but; I hope you get it).

He wasn't a problem child, just, way more emotional than me (I was the quiet, humble, 'suffer in silence' child) and more bold--not disrespectful. He felt something was unfair, he had to let it be known.

He was ALOT like my father.

So, my dad tried to "break" him and all it did was ruin their relationship.

Back to me; the worst whoppin' I ever had was for shopliftin' at Wal-Mart. I got caught, Dad came for me and beat me like a slave...two weeks later I was back shoplifting.

Now, you read that and think, "Oh, you deserve it." And, yes, I deserved punishment for it.

But, put into context; My parent's had just seperated (eventually divorced) and my home life was tough. No, mom, at home, meant more free time for an emotionally hurt child (11, 12, 13 y.o.). Somehow, I gave to shoplifting grocery stores to deal with those emotions.

My Dad wouldn't want to hear it, now, but; my problem wasn't I was a theavin' demon, I needed help. Yo, we went THROUGH IT, during those times.


Kids need to be dealed with like a person. They are just little people :inlove: ( I don't want one, though--not for a while). Take the sugar out of their diets, turn the TV's and phones off and talk to them.

Children don't just choose to be disrepectful...

I really feel like I'm gonna write a novel, but; you can't teach your kids; the punishment for mistakes are violence, because; that's not the real world.

My Dad whooped us too much, but; he did have a good excuse of not knowing any other way and, himself, goin' thru a tough time and not having time to one-on-one with 3 kids (Boy, Boy, Girl).

There's too many non-violent ways to discpline children...man, I really want to go in, but, no one will read it

Why even proofread?

I appreciate your post.