Sony plunged $10 billion after its PS5 sales cut. But a bigger issue is its near decade low games margin

[The Mad Titan]

Also Nintendo made the adjustment as soon as they got blown up going against PlayStation and Xbox.

The GameCube graphically at the time was swinging toe for toe with Xbox and looked far better than PS2. It really looked better than both with some games.


But no third party support and trying to go up against PlayStation and Xbox who had the 16 to 30 audience on lock was suicide.


They haven't looked back since, their hardware is a generation or so behind, so cheaper to make profit with vastly fewer sales needed as well as innovative/gimmicky targeting family and friends 1st.

Since then they've adopted a sub system, and even have tier that get you day and date content like dlc etc etc...

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Game Pass launched in 2017. It took them 7 years to come to the conclusion they could release games on rival consoles because they're focused on a software platform instead of hardware? The PS4 sold more than double the Xbox One. They wasted the opportunity to monetize those potential customers.

No their play was to build out Xbox as a platform and the market hasn't responded to that. It's going in the opposite direction in fact. Faced with that they decided to explore other avenues and that lead them to launching games on Switch and PS5.

These moves aren't savvy and smart they're concessions made because other moves didn't pan out. Painting it as some genius move is disingenuous because had things worked out they wouldn't be doing this.

The moves were not savvy or smart yet the market leader is now making the same moves.

Make it make sense

 

[CEO of Morgan Industries]

Now why would the MLB want this change? And why would sony agree with it? And who told you sony didn’t want to do it??

Because MLB wanted what the NFL and NBA have with branded releases across all consoles and their in-house attempt at that, RBI Baseball, failed miserably against The Show.

Sony would agree with it probably because they're getting a sweetheart deal on the licensing fee (there's no reason to think that MLB would threaten Sony with taking the license away because they'd been trying to give it away, but 2K and Microsoft were too lazy and cheap to develop games on par with The Show and gave up).

Sony probably wouldn't have done it without that reason.

I know you don't play video games so you don't know any of this stuff, so I hope it helped.

 

[Rekkapryde]

Microsoft purchased companies that were already making PlayStation games and continued to let that happen. There's a difference between decided to make games for a rival and buying a business that's successful as is and letting it remain that way. Congrats they didn't kneecap Minecraft by pulling it off PlayStation and Switch. That's so noble of them when it would have heavily damaged the franchise otherwise stripping away hundreds of millions of potential customers.

You are a person that loves to take the end result of something strip it of all context then present that as if the result itself is the context. You then have the nerve of accusing people of trying to fit things in a narrative when that's what you're doing. Sony makes MLB The Show on Xbox because the license holder demanded it. It wasn't something they wanted. Instead of being honest about that you take the facts and obscure them or flat out omit them to fit your narrative. Otherwise can you show me these other games PlayStation makes for Xbox? You don't see any other Sony first party games on Xbox because when it's left up to them they choose not to.

Why you pay them attention. Been spittin common sense shyt at these dudes for years and they juelz and deflect as always.

It’s not even rocket science either.

Stop wasting keystrokes

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Because MLB wanted what the NFL and NBA have with branded releases across all consoles and their in-house attempt at that, RBI Baseball, failed miserably against The Show.

Now why would they want that change? Seems the partnership was going just fine??

Sony would agree with it probably because they're getting a sweetheart deal on the licensing fee (there's no reason to think that MLB would threaten Sony with taking the license away because they'd been trying to give it away, but 2K and Microsoft were too lazy and cheap to develop games on par with The Show and gave up).

Random speculation.

Fact is, sony is now investing in multiplatform content. That was their choice. They could use the money resources on exclusive content if they wanted to.

Sony probably wouldn't have done it without that reason.

I know you don't play video games so you don't know any of this stuff, so I hope it helped.

“probably”

Meaning more tales from your ass

 

[CEO of Morgan Industries]

“probably”

Meaning more tales from your ass

Nah, meaning like anyone with a bit of brains can make reasonable analysis of a situation.

Like Microsoft starting to put their games on other consoles openly and as part of a stated strategy probably means that they won't stop at four games.

Or like how your inability to argue a point coherently probably means that you were dropped on your head as an infant.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Nah, meaning like anyone with a bit of brains can make reasonable analysis of a situation.

Like Microsoft starting to put their games on other consoles openly and as part of a stated strategy probably means that they won't stop at four games.

You guys deal in feelings and emotions not facts.

Fact is that sony and pretty much every other dev/publisher (not named nintendo) on earth has decided to go away from exclusive content.

You guys come up with reasons that sony is different so you feel better about your stanary.

“Sony didn’t want to do it, they were forced

Or like how your inability to argue a point coherently probably means that you were dropped on your head as an infant.

When the personal attacks come out. We know we are on the right track

 

[CEO of Morgan Industries]

You guys deal in feelings and emotions not facts.

Fact is that sony and pretty much every other dev/publisher (not named nintendo) on earth has decided to go away from exclusive content.

You guys come up with reasons that sony is different so you feel better about your stanary.

“Sony didn’t want to do it, they were forced


When the personal attacks come out. We know we are on the right track

The personal attacks come out because no one takes you seriously.

But when you can prove that Sony just went ahead and ported The Show because they suddenly wanted to, maybe we'll take you seriously.

 

[Pressure]

Jim Ryan was right.

I think we can all agree Jim Ryan was forced out because their margin dropped by 50%. Shareholders ain’t standing for that.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

The personal attacks come out because no one takes you seriously.

But when you can prove that Sony just went ahead and ported The Show because they suddenly wanted to, maybe we'll take you seriously.

Speculating motivations from the sidelines isn’t my thing.

Facts are my thing.

Facts are sony is making heavy investments into being a multiplatform developer.

They said it themselves

Now Sony is talking about PS5 exclusives going multiplatform

The interim boss at PlayStation has said he wants to be 'aggressive' in improving the company's margins, by making PS5 games multiplatform.

metro.co.uk

Everything else is console stan cope

 

[daze23]

I think we can all agree Jim Ryan was forced out because their margin dropped by 50%. Shareholders ain’t standing for that.

he was tired of traveling

 

[Pressure]

The personal attacks come out because no one takes you seriously.

But when you can prove that Sony just went ahead and ported The Show because they suddenly wanted to, maybe we'll take you seriously.

MLB wanted it and Sony continues to do it. If anything, the show showed them that they can release games on multiple platforms and still hit their sales targets.

There’s clearly a point of diminishing returns on adoption rate of games within the ecosystem and it is clear all of these gaming companies recognize they can sell consoles on multiple platforms and it not hurt their brand identity.

As we now shift to the current reality where the majority of gamers buy digital we don’t even have that physical media cost as a barrier. You’re no longer having to produce, ship, store, and pay for placements like back in the day.

 

[Pressure]

he was tired of traveling

To board meetings getting cussed out

 

[CEO of Morgan Industries]

MLB wanted it

Exactly. Thank you.

 

[Legal]

This is sad.

For real. Brehs spend more time being armchair industry analysts than talking about actual games these days.