Sony plunged $10 billion after its PS5 sales cut. But a bigger issue is its near decade low games margin

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Bro really stay posting these concern trolling financial articles at 2 am

Its a holiday breh, go outside and do something productive :picard:


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Looks like all that microaggressions, video game companies refusing to respect their consumer base, greed and all thoses issues are FINALLY catching up to the industry. Folks not learning from sega.
 

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Sony Stan's were on my case about exclusive triple A 1st party games being so key to winning the console war narrative.

I'ma go ahead say it again and for the foreseeable future.


Looks like I was right again. :wow:


Unless you are Nintendo 1st party games ain't were the money is at, selling hardware ain't were the money is at. And making all the quarter billion triple A games at a time when gaming (really everything) is the most expensive its ever been is slow poison.
How them GamePass numbers looking, brah
 

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Why weren't Microsoft putting their first party fair outside Minecraft on the PS4? What changed between then and now to drive them to do something that was unthinkable back then?
You think a company that has been losing money on hardware since it got in the game hasn't been brainstorming on how to subsidize that? Or eliminate it completely...

The success of Minecraft year after year was probably key in them pulling the trigger on multi platform support.


Once gamepass added day and date games and play anywhere it was a clear indicator that they wanted to take the onus off hardware and focus on software, subscription and flexibility.

That doesn't mean hardware is going away like people want to try and spew. It just means they not trying to make pennies on the dollar with hardware profits at some point hopefully if they can sell enough of everything.

Xbox has been trying to snatch the start of the digital era of games since the xb1. Problem is they were way to early for most people to be comfortable with and didn't have the games to convince people to give it a fair shake.

Even then they had identified
-paying for triple A 3rd party exclusives wasn't worth it for an IP you do not own.

- digital was the future and across all platforms not just a single console.
-subscriptions we're going to be key.

And what you saw was a dry later half of the generation as they started to pivot from hardware and exclusives to ownership, gamepass, multi platform strategy.
 

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Yes, precisely. That whole thing was console warrior driven nonsense.



Again. Sonys biggest gaming move as of late was to make xbox games. You keep ignoring this reality cause it doesn’t fit into your narrative.

Microsoft has been putting games on those systems for over a decade.

Again, you ignore reality cause it doesn’t fit your narrative

If the first brother successfully got his shyt together, best believe the second brother would “follow” some of the methods of the first. You wouldn’t then argue that the first brother “failed and lost” and the second brother was a beacon of success. :stopitslime:

All the years of the second brother clowning the first for being fat, now he’s in the same place looking for advice. :wow:
Microsoft purchased companies that were already making PlayStation games and continued to let that happen. There's a difference between decided to make games for a rival and buying a business that's successful as is and letting it remain that way. Congrats they didn't kneecap Minecraft by pulling it off PlayStation and Switch. That's so noble of them when it would have heavily damaged the franchise otherwise stripping away hundreds of millions of potential customers.

You are a person that loves to take the end result of something strip it of all context then present that as if the result itself is the context. You then have the nerve of accusing people of trying to fit things in a narrative when that's what you're doing. Sony makes MLB The Show on Xbox because the license holder demanded it. It wasn't something they wanted. Instead of being honest about that you take the facts and obscure them or flat out omit them to fit your narrative. Otherwise can you show me these other games PlayStation makes for Xbox? You don't see any other Sony first party games on Xbox because when it's left up to them they choose not to.
 

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You think a company that has been losing money on hardware since it got in the game hasn't been brainstorming on how to subsidize that? Or eliminate it completely...

The success of Minecraft year after year was probably key in them pulling the trigger on multi platform support.


Once gamepass added day and date games and play anywhere it was a clear indicator that they wanted to take the onus off hardware and focus on software, subscription and flexibility.

That doesn't mean hardware is going away like people want to try and spew. It just means they not trying to make pennies on the dollar with hardware profits at some point hopefully if they can sell enough of everything.

Xbox has been trying to snatch the start of the digital era of games since the xb1. Problem is they were way to early for most people to be comfortable with and didn't have the games to convince people to give it a fair shake.

Even then they had identified
-paying for triple A 3rd party exclusives wasn't worth it for an IP you do not own.

- digital was the future and across all platforms not just a single console.
-subscriptions we're going to be key.

And what you saw was a dry later half of the generation as they started to pivot from hardware and exclusives to ownership, gamepass, multi platform strategy.
Game Pass launched in 2017. It took them 7 years to come to the conclusion they could release games on rival consoles because they're focused on a software platform instead of hardware? The PS4 sold more than double the Xbox One. They wasted the opportunity to monetize those potential customers.

No their play was to build out Xbox as a platform and the market hasn't responded to that. It's going in the opposite direction in fact. Faced with that they decided to explore other avenues and that lead them to launching games on Switch and PS5.

These moves aren't savvy and smart they're concessions made because other moves didn't pan out. Painting it as some genius move is disingenuous because had things worked out they wouldn't be doing this.
 

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Microsoft purchased companies that were already making PlayStation games and continued to let that happen.
Sony purchased companies that were already making xbox games and continued to let it happen :ohhh:

There's a difference between decided to make games for a rival and buying a business that's successful as is and letting it remain that way. Congrats they didn't kneecap Minecraft by pulling it off PlayStation and Switch. That's so noble of them when it would have heavily damaged the franchise otherwise stripping away hundreds of millions of potential customers.
I didn’t say anything about nobility. It’s all business :ehh:
You are a person that loves to take the end result of something strip it of all context then present that as if the result itself is the context.
I didn’t start at the end.

I said it here almost a decade ago, where all this was going. BEFORE MLB went multiplat. BEFORE sony purchased bungie. You all called me a delusional stan then, now reality hits and you are having a problem processing it.

You then have the nerve of accusing people of trying to fit things in a narrative when that's what you're doing. Sony makes MLB The Show on Xbox because the license holder demanded it. It wasn't something they wanted.
Now why would the MLB want this change? And why would sony agree with it? And who told you sony didn’t want to do it?? :ohhh:

Instead of being honest about that you take the facts and obscure them or flat out omit them to fit your narrative. Otherwise can you show me these other games PlayStation makes for Xbox? You don't see any other Sony first party games on Xbox because when it's left up to them they choose not to.
 
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