Sony announce that Horizon Zero Dawn has sold over 20m Copies

[FromStLouis]

its also different when you're talking about actually selling games

At the end of the day it's about reaching players, not necessarily how you do it.



See ya around Gizmo Duck. Congrats again.

 

[Legalese]

Definitely Nintendo territory

 

[winb83]

At the end of the day it's about reaching players, not necessarily how you do it.



See ya around Gizmo Duck. Congrats again.

Let's say Sony gets to keep 50% of every game sold at $70. Let's also give them an average attach rate of 11 games per console which the PS4 reached. For every customer they get to buy a console on average it would take Microsoft about 3 years and 2 months to reach that in monthly payment on the lower tier of Game Pass.

We're talking about an 11 game attach ratio that took 7 years to reach and a subscription service generated that in a little over 3 years per customer.

Give them 70% of every game sold. Per customer a subscription service at $10 per month generates those sales in 4 and a half years. Still less than the 7.

So no game sales aren't everything. They are just what we're used to hearing.

 

[Grand Conde]

Ohh this is the old one, I thought the sequel hit 20M out the gate. That would've been GamePass, Halo Infinite numbers.

Still, very impressive no matter how long it takes to get there. 20M is 20M. 2 months or 5 years.

 

[Jblaze204]

story and world gets more interesting as you play. truth be told i had no interest in fighting the machines after a while.

 

[Grand Conde]

At the end of the day it's about reaching players, not necessarily how you do it.

Playstation don't have that luxury breh - they actually have to sell games people want to buy.

 

[Koba St]

Yet more proof that Sony should do a Gamepass style subscription like Microsoft if they don’t want to get left behind. Microsoft probably made more money with forza on Gamepass than horizon zero Dawn selling 20m copies. The future is subscription, folks. Game sales are dying

 

[winb83]

Yet more proof that Sony should do a Gamepass style subscription like Microsoft if they don’t want to get left behind. Microsoft probably made more money with forza on Gamepass than horizon zero Dawn selling 20m copies. The future is subscription, folks. Game sales are dying

Also consider that Game Pass subscriber still buys some games. In 3.2 years that subscriber has generated the same revenue as a 7 year gamer that only buys games with an attachment ratio of 11 games just off the subscription payments. The additional games they buy are extra on top of that. That customer is flat out more valuable to a company than the guy who only buys games.

There's a reason all these businesses are transitioning to subscription based pricing. For them by far it's a more superior model than all these individual transactions. In the gaming space they can shift the focus from selling games to keeping gamers engaged.

I mean 20 million in sales in impressive but that means there are like almost 100 million in a gap between the PS4s out there and that game's sales and considering it's also on PC there is another gap. If that was on a subscription service how many more people could that game reach and engage? If Game Pass has 25 million subs Forza Horizon penetrated 60% of the sub base with 15 million players. Horizon penetrated 17% of the PS4 install base.

 

[Eternally Jaded]

Why pay $70?

Right? It'll probably be $30 by April.

 

[Eternally Jaded]

Damn they touching Nintendo numbers with some of there first party games now

Nah.

Nintendo does this in much shorter time periods and generally at full price.

Hzd has been cheap as hell for most of its existence.

If hzd stayed at $60 the way Nintendo games do, it'd be a huge thing to be at 10 million sold.
It was $30 by Christmas in its launch year.

Good for them but the press release isn't telling the whole story, by a long shot.

Sony doesn't have nearly the buying power of Nintendo.

 

[itsyoung!!]

Meanwhile at Activision Blizzard...

Overwatch: How the game passed 50 million players
Diablo 3 has sold over 30 million copies across all platforms
Blizzard reaches 100M lifetime World of Warcraft accounts




20 million thats cute im happy for your kid toy box to get some games that do alright sales

 

[Eternally Jaded]

inb410millionwassoldasbundlesoronlyfortendollars

Is it a lie though?

 

[Eternally Jaded]

In before Meach “yeah, they were all on sale”

Not all, but definitely most.

 

[winb83]

Right? It'll probably be $30 by April.

No you can buy the PS4 version for $60 and the PS5 version is included.

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

i thought nobody wanted to buy 1st party games on PS5? Someone explain this please..