some trump voters in PA just found out they won't be getting xmas bonuses because the company will be stockpiling to prepare for trump's tariffs

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Ok, bring those industries back to the US. I get it You're gonna say it isn't reasonable etc., but at the end of the day it's a solution not an excuse. Business owners already don't pay taxes on their earnings like that so the next best thing is to tax them on the materials they use to conduct business. A tariff in theory on cheap chinese/Indian shyt that could be made here is not a bad thing at all it's the fact that people are gonna allow the business owners to punish them by raising prices on them that is what is bad.
Bring those industries back = Biden's CHIPs act

Just cause the finished product is constructed in American, companies still use foreign materials like wood, steel, microchips, etc.
 

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The husbands would let their families starve to death as long as they 'own the libs'

But it would be weird for a company to do that. Bonuses and the like are usually budgeted out for the year prior.
 

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Most white people vote with the intent that their policies will never directly effect them until it does. Even if that's a fake story I wouldn't be surprised that will be reality since we don't make nothing here in the US
 

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American citizen memory is short as hell. During Covid US car companies couldn't get enough microchips from Taiwan and they pretty stopped making cars (or making them with missing USB ports if your Tesla)

Y'all was hoarding name brand toilet paper instead of buying overpriced 1 ply but expect JIT manufacturing companies to just wait til we know what the tariffs on foreign plywood will be :stopitslime:
 

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If it is a "Christmas Bonus", it's discretionary and the CEO can do wtf he wants as he sees fit. Especially in a private company.

If it's a publicly traded company and they've been accruing this bonus all fiscal year (and plan to deduct this bonus pool amount from Corp taxes), then yes they must pay it out according to the company bonus plan. Also, they'd be paying it out a month or two after the end of the FY.

I know that. I've been in corporate in Finance Dept for a long ass time. I'm just saying they knew this well in advance if this were even an inkling of a possibility that they were going to do that. For them to blame it on upcoming tariffs is BS.
Notifying employees 6 months in advance would just cause panic. 6 months ago CEOs probably assumed Joe Biden would win relection and this tariffs shyt isn't even a thought. A CEO supposed to predict what Trump will say/do in 6 months? Trump don't even know :russ:
They still outline the severity of their situations months in advance. It's November. They didn't have the bonuses budgeted out for December? Whether it's the end of the FY or YE, they knew what they had in the budget for December, well before November. And especially if it's something they've consistently done for a few years. It's a bonus, they could've easily informed the folks the beginning of the QTR or beginning of FY that future bonuses we something they were exploring in discontinuing or even delaying.

Point still remains, they knew well in advance, way before the results of this election that they were gonna nix the Christmas bonuses. They have a working class staff, so they know the majority depend on those bonuses for the holidays. Don't use something like the election, which doesn't even affect anything for a few months as an excuse. Cmon now - 2 years worth of supplies? You don't even know if you're operating in the same manner in 2 years, regulations could change as well, now your stuck with another year of useless materials. And a few thousands in bonuses is not significantly gonna crush you, especially this year.
 
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if the tariffs actually happened, it would raise the price of everything coming from china, which is like everything we buy :dead:

but it's not gonna happen. tariffs was just a stupid thing for trump to say on the campaign trail, to sound like he knew what he was talking about, and give him a policy to "talk tough" about. the people around him will never actually let him do it

also, he proposed tariffs as an alternative to getting rid of all taxes. that's not happening, so it's DOA
The tariffs are happening, just like they did in his last administration. And they are coming with corporate tax cuts, not in conjunction with the elimination of all taxes. You keep spreading this baseless lie to run interference for Trump. His transition team is set up (and full of corporate entities and billionaires) to get that ball rolling early. It's happening. The leader of his transition team is the Cantor Fitzgerald CEO, Billionaire Howard Lutnick. He is a hand puppet.


Donald Trump is leaning on many of the people who served in top positions in his first administration to help prepare an aggressive set of policies he plans to pursue right out of the gate. The result is an administration that will be better prepared than in 2016 to implement Trump’s priorities soon after the inauguration — especially on core agenda items like trade and tariffs.

- U.S. Trade Representative Robert Lighthizer, who is crafting trade and economic plans, along with Jamieson Greer, Lighthizer’s former chief of staff.

A new book from former U.S. trade chief Robert Lighthizer advocates for levels of tariffs and trade barriers not seen for decades.

Former U.S. Trade Representative Robert Lighthizer is apparently telling Wall Street money managers that if the Republican presidential nominee is reelected, he could start implementing his sweeping tariff proposals quickly after taking office, according to policy analysts at Piper Sandler.

 

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White men are already taking L's:mjlol:. we need any consolation we can get from this tragedy



I guess what I still may have questions about is, ok so that tax thing you brought up may benefit in one way but then there’s things like this



Its feels like a 1 step forward 3 steps back type thing with Trump



I made it a hot line:ohhh:
You made it a hot song:wow:


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Trump will do little to help the issues that we are currently facing while creating even more problems. Watch he will do more harm than good.

I will check back in 4 years.
 

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I know that. I've been in corporate in Finance Dept for a long ass time. I'm just saying they knew this well in advance if this were even an inkling of a possibility that they were going to do that. For them to blame it on upcoming tariffs is BS.

They still outline the severity of their situations months in advance. It's November. They didn't have the bonuses budgeted out for December? Whether it's the end of the FY or YE, they knew what they had in the budget for December, well before November. And especially if it's something they've consistently done for a few years. It's a bonus, they could've easily informed the folks the beginning of the QTR or beginning of FY that future bonuses we something they were exploring in discontinuing or even delaying.

Point still remains, they knew well in advance, way before the results of this election that they were gonna nix the Christmas bonuses. They have a working class staff, so they know the majority depend on those bonuses for the holidays. Don't use something like the election, which doesn't even affect anything for a few months as an excuse. Cmon now - 2 years worth of supplies? You don't even know if you're operating in the same manner in 2 years, regulations could change as well, now your stuck with another year of useless materials. And a few thousands in bonuses is not significantly gonna crush you, especially this year.
Understood on the 1st part -- I've been in Compensation my whole career, so I'm the one modeling the bonus plans throughout the year for FP&A team.

Mfg companies are very vulnerable to price shocks, so if I'm the CEO I'm cancelling bonuses to ensure we got enough inventory to last as long as we can manage because of I don't do it, my competitors will. And what happens to my market share if I can't even make the finished product because I can no longer afford my foreign suppliers?

It may be an excuse but the CEO is probably telling his employees the truth and risking a lot to be transparent.

Or he's just emulating the behaviors of their favored candidate and they gotta sit with that. :troll:
 
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if trump and republicans are dumb enough to do this, and give democrats that huge gift, i'll be happy to admit i was wrong :yeshrug:

i don't see it. they aren't that stupid.
You actually think they're just assembling a team focusing on doing this and communicating that they're going to do this, to not do it? What sense does that make?

Republicans, Trump, and his billionaire friends especially are that avaricious. Their callous indifference to the suffering of every day people is well-documented throughout history. They instituted tariffs under his last administration and it was disastrous for the steel industry, and industries that relied on it. And people lined up again to elect him despite that. Why does the GOP get this benefit of the doubt from some of you?

"Oh, they're not going to do this regressive thing that they're saying they're going to do, and have done in the past. No need to worry."

And would it be a gift? For example, Trump was a disaster for unions and the labor movement in general, yet that did not turn them off from supporting him in vast numbers. That's true for other "identities" who will vote against their own interests for reasons stronger than a concern for their well-being too.
 
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