Some NBA players may protest by boycotting playoffs

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Now we wait for this to be spinned negatively:jbhmm:

In another thread someone pointed to John Carlos as someone that played and protested, turns out John was on the call with them.


Spin what? Nowhere in that passage does it indicate that John Carlos said they shouldn't play:


""Irving, Bradley and the coalition of players want to pursue some concerns further with the league, sources said, including: the investment of resources and ideas of all league constituencies -- from the commissioner's office, ownership level, management and players association -- in social justice reform."

....everyone agrees with this; just as Carlos did in HIS TIME, when he decided to run and NOT continue with the boycott at the 1968 Olympics
 

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Think folks need to read Ed Davis article on hoops hype.

He even mentions how the comments in the tweets are accurate. But the media is still spinning the commments....which we all knew.

Good info because he is discussing that they have had many meetings along with even in the meeting of 80 players only around 10 talked. With the 10 being 50/50 playing. But overall his sense is that most players agree to play. Cause if they cancel the season there is a chance for a no go next season too.
 

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Spin what? Nowhere in that passage does it indicate that John Carlos said they shouldn't play:


""Irving, Bradley and the coalition of players want to pursue some concerns further with the league, sources said, including: the investment of resources and ideas of all league constituencies -- from the commissioner's office, ownership level, management and players association -- in social justice reform."

....everyone agrees with this; just as Carlos did in HIS TIME, when he decided to run and NOT continue with the boycott at the 1968 Olympics

Thing is the great brothas tommie smith and john carlos made their statement in the 68 Olympics. The great Lew Alcindor (his name at the time) made a statement and boycotted that same Olympics.

Yet no one even talks about kareem boycotting that Olympics. But they do talk about Tommie and John making the protest in that same Olympics.

Also in the 68 Olympics there was debate back in US whether the black athletes who attended the Olympics that year were sell outs (Spencer Haywood even mentioned the vitriol thrown his way). Tommie Smith and John Carlos mentioned that they wanted to make a statement that they were with the black folks back home. So they came up with the protest.

Not saying one type of protest is better than the other. But I just want to add nuance to this whole protest discussion.
 
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Thing is the great brothas tommie smith and john carlos made their statement in the 68 Olympics. The great Lew Alcindor (his name at the time) made a statement and boycotted that same Olympics.

Yet no one even talks about kareem boycotting that Olympics. But they do talk about Tommie and John making the protest in that same Olympics.

Also in the 68 Olympics there was debate back in US whether the black athletes who attended the Olympics that year were sell outs (Spencer Haywood even mentioned the vitriol thrown his way). Tommie Smith and John Carlos mentioned that they wanted to make a statement that they were with the black folks back home. So they came up with the protest.

Not saying one type of protest is better than the other. But I just want to add nuance to this whole protest discussion.
What do you think the players should do?
 

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Thing is the great brothas tommie smith and john carlos made their statement in the 68 Olympics. The great Lew Alcindor (his name at the time) made a statement and boycotted that same Olympics.

Yet no one even talks about kareem boycotting that Olympics. But they do talk about Tommie and John making the protest in that same Olympics.

Also in the 68 Olympics there was debate back in US whether the black athletes who attended the Olympics that year were sell outs (Spencer Haywood even mentioned the vitriol thrown his way). Tommie Smith and John Carlos mentioned that they wanted to make a statement that they were with the black folks back home. So they came up with the protest.

Not saying one type of protest is better than the other. But I just want to add nuance to this whole protest discussion.

yup, I made this point earlier. The most iconic protest of those 1968 Olympics was Tommy and Carlos running and then doing what they did. No one talks about Kareem's protest.


the black athletes attached specific demands to their agenda (exactly what Kyrie and them should be doing) and when they got most of them, most went on to participate in the games and ended up making a bigger statement than Kareem did

 

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Return-To-Play Plan Not In Jeopardy:

Over 100 NBA players participated in a conference call on Friday in which Kyrie Irving made a case against resuming the season, but reporting from ESPN in discussing the issue with players, agents, the NBPA and league officials found no indication that the resume-to-play plan in Orlando is in jeopardy.

There's not believed to be a significant group of players ready to sit out.

There are some players who are expected to decide not to play, but not enough to compromise the league's plans to return. The plan was approved by owners 29-1 and by team represenatives 28-0.

NBPA: Players discussing restart's impact on BLM
 

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yup, I made this point earlier. The most iconic protest of those 1968 Olympics was Tommy and Carlos running and then doing what they did. No one talks about Kareem's protest.


the black athletes attached specific demands to their agenda (exactly what Kyrie and them should be doing) and when they got most of them, most went on to participate in the games and ended up making a bigger statement than Kareem did



This is true and not to sell any of these brothas short. We have countless examples of black athletes boycotting games. Such as the 1964 all star game when the players lead by Russell, Oscar, Baylor and West were gonna boycott the game. Literally minutes before the game tipped off if the league didn't give them pensions, reduce back to back games, teams having trainers (there were no trainers in those days) and having meal per diem for each player.

Due to the game being nationally televised the owners gave in and the players got their deal and played the all star game.

One other thing. I know stupid internet fans talk that goat this and goat that bull shyt. But two men in sports never get their just due. Cause foolish fans and ungrateful players would have never been able to see sports at its current level if it wasn't for Curt flood and Oscar Robertson. I mean the impact these brothas had on the sports world can't even he meaured. From free agency to player rights.
 

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Return-To-Play Plan Not In Jeopardy:

Over 100 NBA players participated in a conference call on Friday in which Kyrie Irving made a case against resuming the season, but reporting from ESPN in discussing the issue with players, agents, the NBPA and league officials found no indication that the resume-to-play plan in Orlando is in jeopardy.

There's not believed to be a significant group of players ready to sit out.

There are some players who are expected to decide not to play, but not enough to compromise the league's plans to return. The plan was approved by owners 29-1 and by team represenatives 28-0.

NBPA: Players discussing restart's impact on BLM

Yeah thats what Ed Davis was mentioning...in this interview here.

Utah’s Ed Davis was on Friday’s players call. This is why he’s against sitting out
 
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