So yall wont blame teachers for the state of black children?Then why blame politicians for the state of black adults

[Wildhundreds]

It doesn't automatically flip the light switch, but it surely helps. It obviously won't help everyone, but even some would make all the difference in the world and/or people around them.

Its hard work if they're not interested breh. Im out here trying to help black women educate their kids, but they so f*cking distracted with bullsh*t. 4 year old boys can't even recognize their names on a piece of paper, but know the words to rap lyrics. Then you give the mother SIMPLE homework to go over with their kid, and they don't even do it. Simple sh*t man. Not algebra or geometry, but simple ABC sh*t.

BUT they know how to turn up.. Im looking at the sh*t from the ground level and its frightening whats coming down the road. And these women have good jobs and resources.. But they're not passionate about education.

 

[Wildhundreds]

There have been many broke people who win the lottery, and go broke. They had the money, but didn't have the mentality to maintain or grow it. They lacked discipline.

This is all im saying.. People believe money will fix all these ills when it won't. Money will help the people who was trying to help themselves before the money came.

 

[Fanservice]

No I’m not blaming the teachers. All it takes is 1 or 2 student to disrupt the class and mess it up for every one else.
Imagine you’re a teacher in a poor city and you got 4 lil NBA Young boys, 2 King Vons, and some hoodrats in your class. You think the teachers gonna be able to do anything?

Try to be Sister Mary Clarence brehs

 

[Unbothered]

What resources do parents need to instill a hard working mindset? Take an interest in what your kid is doing at school, invest time in them personally, and set a good example as an adult. You don't need a Harvard degree for that, but what you do need is to sacrifice browsing tiktok and netflix for hours.

That's the hard part for everyone, sacrifice. Everybody wants to come home from work and relax, and the easy thing to do is chill out in front of the tv or game and let your kid do whatever. The hard part is coming home from that long day and asking about the homework, helping them do it, all while sacrificing those precious hours of freedom.

Every school is not created equal, but the students that usually ended up the best off had parents that were on their asses about grades, and they themselves weren't the class clowns, and took things seriously. I went to a poor as fukk school in bumfuk nowhere. Some of us stayed broke, some middle class, and a few got scholarships and went on to high paying careers. It always, always starts at home, and if we want to teach our kids that they have to work hard no matter the excuse, we have to be that example.

I agree that parents should be involved with their children's education but we have to also want more from our government to provide for us and our children, we pay taxes for these very reasons and should demand and expect more assistance because otherwise what do we pay taxes for if we're going to reject and/or not bother applying pressure to the local, state, and federal governments.

 

[FukkaPaidEmail]

These threads really show who really be in the community and those that just talk shyt on a forum .

The responsibility is on the parents . That’s your kid and if they fail that’s on YOU.

If you’re an adult that’s in a fukked up spot 9 times out of 10 you put yourself in that jam . It’s not the government job to step in and save you.

If you give nikkas all the resources and funding in the world it’s not going to change a damn thing if the foundation is rotten

 

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

What resources though? Is this a city specific issue like food deserts, or things like some schools having laptops for kids and others not?

And how can a poor adult help their children? People have been doing that in the US for decades. The answer for the parents is simple, but it's just not easy. It's like an obese person losing weight. The instructions are clear, but the practice is a test of will that most aren't ready to face.

What really sucks about being a poor parent, is that to give your kids the best shot, you have to sacrifice more of your time and happiness than someone with more money has to. Is it fair? No. Neither is life. They also knew they were poor before they had a kid as well. Welcome to actions and consequences.

The awesome news though is that there are ways forward if you actively look for them and work towards them. The average person is a bit lazy. I'm average and know this. Thing is, the poorer you are, the less lazy you can afford to be. There's a reason Asian migrants can show up poor, but have their kids go through college and become successful. Those motherfukkers work off shame and hard work like crazy.

You can improve a school and give it better resources and equipment, but that alone isn't going to make the kids better. The kids, usually, will reflect on their parents.

It's a combination of all those things as a multitude of factors that play a part in the state of black children and education. Politicans are a part of that as well.

A poor adult can help their children if they get help themselves. Why else do you think a lot of places out here are trying to help improve the education and the quality of life of the parents? Improve the quality of life of the parent, which you would hope would help improve the life and attitude of the child.

Once again, it's a not fix for EVERY single child and parent out here, but even if it helps some will go a long way in helping to resolve the issue.

White people can get all of the help and resources they need to help improve the quality of life of their child with no issues, but with black ones it's the pull yourself up by yourself mentality and figure it out on your own.

 

[FukkaPaidEmail]

I agree that parents should be involved with their children's education but we have to also want more from our government to provide for us and our children, we pay taxes for these very reasons and should demand and expect more assistance because otherwise what do we pay taxes for if we're going to reject and/or not bother applying pressure to the local, state, and federal governments.

Bro I’m not paying taxes so a deadbeat man or woman can sit on his/her own ass and reap benefits after a lifetime of them making stupid choices . What is here now is enough. It’s on the individual to want more .

 

[Geode]

Parents are the child's first teacher. This doesn't absolve the government from providing resources that support education at school and provide an environment for parents to be involved in some way. But you can't send a child to school ( even the best schools) and expect teachers to wave a magic wand all for it to be undone once the child leaves the school building.

Some parents are not providing learning and bonding experiences within the home nor setting routines. But teachers are supposed to magically get kids to do that without consistency at home? This turns into a vicious cycle of passing off responsibility.

Again this does not absolve the govt an excuse to not provide educational resources. Nor does it ignore teachers who have no business being in front of students or treat like a warehouse job. These are all separate issues and all can and should be addressed at the same time.

 

[Still Benefited]

These threads really show who really be in the community and those that just talk shyt on a forum .

The responsibility is on the parents . That’s your kid and if they fail that’s on YOU.

If you’re an adult that’s in a fukked up spot 9 times out of 10 you put yourself in that jam . It’s not the government job to step in and save you.

If you give nikkas all the resources and funding in the world it’s not going to change a damn thing if the foundation is rotten

It's the direct result of years and years of the wealthy coopting education and politics. They've successfully convinced people that getting government to actually do their jobs by allocating resources to assist people is a form of dependence instead of the obligation that government has to you as a voter and tax payer.

In order for all Americans to get their needs met taxes may have to be raised on the rich, so then they convince people that ANY taxation is bad.

 

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

Parents are the child's first teacher. This doesn't absolve the government from providing resources that support education at school and provide an environment for parents to be involved in some way. But you can't send a child to school ( even the best schools) and expect teachers to wave a magic wand all for it to be undone once the child leaves the school building.

Some parents are not providing learning and bonding experiences within the home nor setting routines. But teachers are supposed to magically get kids to do that without consistency at home? This turns into a vicious cycle of passing off responsibility.

Again this does not absolve the govt an excuse to not provide educational resources. Nor does it ignore teachers who have no business being in front of students or treat like a warehouse job. These are all separate issues and all can and should be addressed at the same time.

Kind of difficult to do that when the parents don't have the adequate education themselves, which can be blamed on the government in some cases.

 

[Still Benefited]

Parents are the child's first teacher. This doesn't absolve the government from providing resources that support education at school and provide an environment for parents to be involved in some way. But you can't send a child to school ( even the best schools) and expect teachers to wave a magic wand all for it to be undone once the child leaves the school building.

Some parents are not providing learning and bonding experiences within the home nor setting routines. But teachers are supposed to magically get kids to do that without consistency at home? This turns into a vicious cycle of passing off responsibility.

Again this does not absolve the govt an excuse to not provide educational resources. Nor does it ignore teachers who have no business being in front of students or treat like a warehouse job. These are all separate issues and all can and should be addressed at the same time.

And teachers are childrens secondary parents. Im agreeing with you,people manage to have that dual thinking when it comes to adults. Where we blame the adults and also hold the govt accountable. But when it comes to kids,people strictly wanna blame the parents and absolve teachers completely.


Everybody becomes experts on what parents should do to raise good kids. But act like theres nothing teachers can do,and they have a right to throw their hands up. Most teachers just arent cut out for the job


You can be well intentioned and sorry btw,many parents are as well. People assume just doing the job of a teacher alone makes you some saintly,unquestionable figure.

 

[Unbothered]

If you gave people million-dollar homes and all the resources in the world, you still HAVE TO PUT IN THE F*CKING WORK!!!!

Y'all think your work ethic flips on like a light switch once you get all the resources you're crying about? You had poor people who had minimal resources, and a decent work ethic, who turned their situation around when they got $20k+ in PPP money... I've seen this...

Then you had poor people with 0 work ethic, and no ambition, who got $20k and even more and blew all that sh*t... And while y'all begging white mfers to give you resources, they were sitting back and gathering the "stats" on all this behavior... Sure you have those who need the resources and the government should give it to them. But people need to understand you have a segment of humans within all races who refuse to do the right thing regardless of what they have.

People really need to grow the fck up.

We have to stop villainizing the poor and low-income for being where they're at in life financially. The hard truth many people in this society fail to understand or choose to ignore is that some people can't help being poor/low-income and due to many reasons, that's their ceiling, unfortunately, some improve their lives while others stay that way permanently no matter what, that's as far as they're going. They still deserve proper educational resources just like everybody else. Why do people scoff at helping the poor and low-income have a chance at being moderately successful in life but cheer and clap on for the already relatively successful middle-class and rich folks getting more or all of the benefits?

Yes, unfortunately, there are always going to be bad students coming from bad households affecting the classroom and sometimes dragging other students down with them but, with the right resources given to the schools, those kids acting up won't be a factor and maybe the teacher would be able to reach those bad students if they had the necessities.

Every kid isn't going to be “saved” and some will get left behind, sadly because of things at home,q However, there are plenty of students in the classroom who do want to learn and shouldn't be deprived because of a few students in the room coming from bad situations at home.

 

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

We have to stop villainizing the poor and low-income for being where they're at in life financially. Some people can't help being poor/low-income and due to many reasons, that's their ceiling, unfortunately, some improve their lives while others stay that way permanently no matter what. They still deserve proper educational resources just like everybody else. Why do people scoff at helping the poor and low-income have a chance at being moderately successful in life but cheer and clap on for the already relatively successful middle-class and rich folks getting more or all of the benefits?

Yes, unfortunately, there are always going to be bad students coming from bad households affecting the classroom and sometimes dragging other students down with them but, with the right resources given to the schools, those kids acting up won't be a factor and maybe the teacher would be able to reach those bad students if they had the necessities.

Every kid isn't going to be “saved” and some will get left behind, sadly because of things at home,q However, there are plenty of students in the classroom who do want to learn and shouldn't be deprived because of a few students in the room coming from bad situations at home.

Perfectly stated. The unfortunate part about it and a lot of posters don't realize, but they love making those same "pull yourself up by the bootstraps" comments that white people love to make.

It's why this site isn't ready for these type of conversations a lot of posters can't fathom the idea of multiple things being at the same time and there not being one correct answer to a problem.

 

[Geode]

Kind of difficult to do that when the parents don't have the adequate education themselves, which can be blamed on the government in some cases.

Learning comes in all forms. An illiterate parent can teach the value of something or a routine. This is what community used too do.

Most common routine I see lacking is a bedtime routine. kids up all times of the night and adults are right there looking the kid in the eyeball. You don't need education for that.

 

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

Learning comes in all forms. An illiterate parent can teach the value of something or a routine. This is what community used too do.

Most common routine I see lacking is a bedtime routine. kids up all times of the night and adults are right there looking the kid in the eyeball. You don't need education for that.

Which is proving my point that blame can be placed on multiple entities and not just one particular person like a lot of posters in this thread are insinuating.