So Will The Coli Stop Snubbing Swizz Beatz, Now That He Smoked Your Beloved Timbaland?

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Dr. Dre would destroy Swizz

I don’t think anyone could beat Dre. Amongst the mass public.


thing is, most of dr dre's beats are either str8 loop samples or somebody else did most of the work...……...or both.:laugh:

dre entering a beat battle would open up the door to more people having that discussion. he would never play himself like that.
 

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If Timbaland is an R&B producer, why is Swizz battling him? If Timbaland is an R&B producer why is this battle getting any attention from Hip Hop period?


BE SMART SON

PLEASE.


And Timbaland was producing platinum Hip Hop albums before he ever did a record for Nelly or JT.

And Timbaland has helmed Hip Hop albums of importance.


meanwhile swizz was producing multi-platinum albums, and they weren't hybrid r&b albums, they were rap. street rap on top of that.

timbaland never helmed an important rap album ever. stop lying to yourself.


Within Hip Hop, Swizz's songs are not more popular. You even allude to this with that BS title you made. If Timbaland is beloved and Swizz is getting snubbed, that means Tim is more popular. And that's pretty much the same offline. When they did that one gotta go or talked about the "Mt. Rushmore" of Hip Hop producers, it was Dre, Pharrell, Kanye, and Tim. When most Hip Hop producers bring up influences, Tim's name is brought up more often than Swizz.


thread title was aimed at people like yourself.

as for the bolded, im not finna waste time having these type of silly arguments with you anymore. the video speaks for itself.

and lol @ Pharrell, Kanye & timbaland being the mt rushmore of hip-hop producers. this is how I know you a broad. you think I give any credence to some commercialized ass media-generated list?
 

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theres nothing to agree or disagree about.

youre just not very bright.
You have a neg coming and there's nothing you can do about it because you're already in the red. :mjgrin:

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Learn how to not be a miserable c*nt when you reflect on the impending neg.:mjlit:
 

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BE SMART SON

PLEASE.

No rebuttal. On to the next one

meanwhile swizz was producing multi-platinum albums, and they weren't hybrid r&b albums, they were rap. street rap on top of that.

timbaland never helmed an important rap album ever. stop lying to yourself.

Eve's debut had R&B on it and Eve herself sings so you're very misinformed on that end.

Timbaland has helmed important rap albums. Check the thread. What's funny is you're not even in here going to bat for Ruff Ryders Compilation or Flesh of My Flesh, you're in here trying to prop up an Eve album over a Mobb Deep album and you're the only one who is delusional enough to argue that.

hread title was aimed at people like yourself.

as for the bolded, im not finna waste time having these type of silly arguments with you anymore. the video speaks for itself.

and lol @ Pharrell, Kanye & timbaland being the mt rushmore of hip-hop producers. this is how I know you a broad. you think I give any credence to some commercialized ass media-generated list?

Thread was aimed at the entire board according to the title. You pretty much concede to Timbaland being more popular than Swizz as a Hip Hop producer

Breh, don't even come in here trying to imply that I'm a female. You the one that exposed you were pink when you 1) brought up how an Eve album was more poppin than a Mobb Deep album 2) said the Booth was sexist because no one even mentioned said album

List wasn't even generated by the media.

Since we discussing Missy and you can't seem to stay away from posting moist comments, I'm sure the joint below will speak to the feminist in you since you claim The Booth is sexist:

 

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This.

During thay whole Blueprint, chipmunk soul era, Swizz wasn't as popular and he was kind of struggling to adapt. "I Get High" and "Big Business" (og and remix) are highlights from that era, but overall, it wasn't the same Swizz. Considering, The Neptunes and Tim were still dominant in that era, it's just crazy that he wasn't able to maneuver.


neptunes & timbaland were in a different lane. they were r&b/pop/bubblegum rap...…...yea, neptunes did the street ish with star trak but that wasn't their bread n butter.
so they weren't phased by the new wave of producers & the chipmunk soul sound.

swizz was phased by the newer producers because they were his competition. keep in mind, this was before swizz became a go-to guy for beyonce, and rap cuts like "tambourine".
so yea, for a minute, those newer producers kinda rendered swizz to being...….wait for it...…...BORDERLINE OLD SCHOOL. @mobbinfms until he found a new sound, and especially before he expanded to r&b.
 
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neptunes & timbaland were in a different lane. they were r&b/pop/bubblegum rap...…...yea, neptunes did the street ish with star trak but that wasn't their bread n butter.
so they weren't phased by the new wave of producers & the chipmunk soul sound.

swizz was phased by the newer producers because they were his competition. keep in mind, this was before swizz became a go-to guy for beyonce, and rap cuts like "tambourine".
so yea, for a minute, those newer producers kinda rendered swizz to being...….wait for it...…...BORDERLINE OLD SCHOOL. @mobbinfms until he found a new sound, and especially before he expanded to r&b.

Timbaland, The Neptunes, and Swizz were all in the same lane. They were all producers capable of giving an artist a street joint, but could also give an artist a street joint that would be viable enough to chart to some capacity. Every Swizz joint wasn't some hardbody street joint. He had his share of R&B tinged, commercial singles too most notably the Eve singles ("Gotta Man" and "Love Is Blind"). Then there's the commercial singles like "Girls Best Friend". Swizz wasn't phased out, he just needed to find his sound.

You're contradicting yourself with saying Swizz being a go-to for Beyonce. Beyonce is a singer and you're out here saying Timbaland and The Neptunes were in the R&B lane, yet here you are claiming Swizz was the go-to for Beyonce (which he wasn't, he just had several joints on the album and after that album, she never really used him again).

Swizz wasn't borderline old school. See that's the BS that you're being called out for in the thread. Swizz, Kanye, Just, Timbaland, and The Neptunes are all contemporaries. Kanye and Just were all producing songs in the late 90's, but didn't blow until 2001. You can't say Swizz was borderline old school without saying the other four were borderline old school (which renders your argument null and void considering the others were still dominant). Swizz ran into a wall with nowhere to go until he put out Cassidy, who again came with an R&B tinged single in "Hotel" featuring R. Kelly.
 

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Timbaland, The Neptunes, and Swizz were all in the same lane. They were all producers capable of giving an artist a street joint, but could also give an artist a street joint that would be viable enough to chart to some capacity. Every Swizz joint wasn't some hardbody street joint. He had his share of R&B tinged, commercial singles too most notably the Eve singles ("Gotta Man" and "Love Is Blind"). Then there's the commercial singles like "Girls Best Friend". Swizz wasn't phased out, he just needed to find his sound.

You're contradicting yourself with saying Swizz being a go-to for Beyonce. Beyonce is a singer and you're out here saying Timbaland and The Neptunes were in the R&B lane, yet here you are claiming Swizz was the go-to for Beyonce (which he wasn't, he just had several joints on the album and after that album, she never really used him again).

Swizz wasn't borderline old school. See that's the BS that you're being called out for in the thread. Swizz, Kanye, Just, Timbaland, and The Neptunes are all contemporaries. Kanye and Just were all producing songs in the late 90's, but didn't blow until 2001. You can't say Swizz was borderline old school without saying the other four were borderline old school (which renders your argument null and void considering the others were still dominant). Swizz ran into a wall with nowhere to go until he put out Cassidy, who again came with an R&B tinged single in "Hotel" featuring R. Kelly.

Yeah. I typed up a bunch of stuff but you pretty much covered it. :salute:

Ill just add the receipts

Swizz Beatz production discography - Wikipedia
 

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Album was 3 mics. Don't tarnish IDAHIH trying to prop up FOMF.


album was classic imo, or at least borderline classic.

im not saying its better than IDAHIH, but it was more of a fun/social listen, with more reach.

this is why X is arguably top 10. he arguably dropped two completely different types of classics in one calendar year.

Ok. With the exception of one album each year...there is always somebody who sells more. Was IDAHIH not killing it in 98 because Vol. 2 outsold it?


I don't see your point.

you say this as if mobb deep ever dropped an album that was anywhere remotely close to that level of success.
and we're not just talking about 1 album outselling them in a year, we're talking about a gang of albums per year.

in fairness, they were never big sellers. so lets just get to the point. their ranking in the streets wasn't where it was in 95-96. their longtime fans from that era were the ones that were really checkin for them like that in 99. they weren't bringing in newer fans like that on the street level. they were phasing out. good thing they were one of the first groups to embrace the internet.


She had more than one single from the first album? I just remember the DV song. :yeshrug:
Which wasn't a big song...but it wasn't exactly gonna be a club banger on the other hand with the subject matter :prodigylol:
The point is she was positioned perfectly to capitalize on all the hype with RR.


Eve album was already platinum and she was already a big star before "love is blind" dropped. breh, just admit she simply wasn't for you, so you weren't paying attention.

she didn't just capitalize off of her position, she was by far the 2nd biggest star in RR, and one of the bigger stars of that era.

you the homie, but I have to ask, were you really following during that time period, or were you just into what you personally liked during that timeframe?? cuz I don't see how you can be so out-the-loop on this one, but you remember that mobb deep video that didn't make it past rap city.

and then you claim "love is blind" wasn't a big song?? really?
all three of her singles were amongst the biggest hits in the rap game when they were out, respectively.
and "love is blind" was HUGE. she even performed it on the American music awards!!!!! how was it not big??:mindblown:



 
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