So Will The Coli Stop Snubbing Swizz Beatz, Now That He Smoked Your Beloved Timbaland?

[JustCKing]

EXACTLY

but let these dudes tell it, she was running hip-hop because she made the cover of the source.

these is why I cant take those cats seriously.

That album didn't flop. It went platinum selling around the same amount of copies as her debut.

 

[JustCKing]

no its not

mind your business.

Breh, you're still arguing about Eve vs. Mobb. So yeah, it's the same argument. You're posting on a forum where all posters can comment and quote whomever they please. Get your own board or just quit posting.

 

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

:havdahell:beats in 99 >>> Swizz in 99

HELL NO

 

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

Breh, you're still arguing about Eve vs. Mobb. So yeah, it's the same argument. You're posting on a forum where all posters can comment and quote whomever they please. Get your own board or just quit posting.

youre welcome to jump in a side-argument, if you know what the f*ck youre talking about.

this is what im saying, you homely dudes know dam well you don't interact in real circles.
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That album didn't flop. It went platinum selling around the same amount of copies as her debut.

it was considered a flop, even by the media that you subscribe to & worship.

especially before the hot boyz song saved the album.

 

[JustCKing]

it was considered a flop, even by the media that you subscribe to & worship.

especially before the hot boyz song saved the album.

Breh, that album wasn't considered a flop. It went platinum. There's nothing to support that except more of your delusion.

 

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

It was also on Luda's album and any Luda fans knows "Fat Rabbit" was his first feature. It has been brought up in several of his interviews. And people familiar with Luda's DJ days know that was his first feature, because it was a staple on the Phat 7 at 7 when Luda was a DJ.



Missy was on Unsung because she wrote and produced for them. On top of that she had them on two songs from her albums. Either way, it's irrelevant to the topic. There's no connection here or there.

You can't say anything about being over anybody's head because you stay trying to make connections that have nothing to do with the topic. Everybody's over your head, because you are beneath everybody else in regard to articulating points.

2001 was not a dry year for Timbaland. Most of those songs dropped summer 2001. "Roll Out" by Luda is the only song that dropped in the fourth quarter.

All of those songs were poppin'.



It was baseless. I came back with an example. And Missy and Timbaland is still a >>>>>>> tandem than Foxy Brown and The Trackmasters.

I never got mad, you're the one in her butt hurt using feminist talking points to defend no one mentioning Eve's debut until you mentioned it in this thread.

Don't ever mention what the streets is feeling when you're in here trying to defend Eve being more poppin than Mobb Deep in '99.

Landing a cover of The Source actually meant a lot. They dubbed themselves the voice for Hip Hop culture. Who they decide to put on covers affects their brand as a whole. You're not gambling putting an artist on the cover that

1) hurts your brand

2) isn't going to get your audience to cop the magazine

yea, I know that song from Ludacris album.
but we weren't talking about Ludacris album.
PLEASE BE SMART.

breh, please stop tryna argue about the streets, and go take your medicine while you listen to timbaland & magoo's greatest hits.

I don't care what the source dubbed themselves.....you know what.....nevermind brehette.

edit: you think serious rap fans copped the source for missy & timbaland? man what the f*ck are you on?

yea no chit cherlock. I was just asking if you watched unsung last night. it was a good episode. THATS ALL. but I see your aspergers syndrome is f*ckin up again so i'll fallback.

they may have dropped in the summer, but they didn't take off til the fall.
by poppin, I mean more than just airplay & charts.

when posters are in here trying to elevate an Eve album over Mobb and then wanna lean on the streets when it's convenient. And when the same poster wants to claim Foxy/The Trackmasters as a tandem and then downplay Missy/Timbo talking about the streets wasn't feeling it when those Foxy/Trackmasters tracks were all rehashes of popular R&B joints from the 80's.

youre embarrassing yourself at this point.

I would advise you to stop but we doing numbers.​

 

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

Nah. It's forced. No one is discussing Swizz Cheese outside of the Coli. If anything people are in this thread talking about Timbo more.

im the one that ignited the timbaland arguments in the thread. learn how to read dikkhead.
and if you actually watched the video, you wouldn't be making such stupid comments.

and stay off of youtube. don't make me start posting up all the dumb chit ive seen you say in the comments section.

you don't even know who patti labelle is. SMH.
you claim the coli is going down, but people like yourself signing up, is the very reason why this board went down.

 

[JustCKing]

yea, I know that song from Ludacris album.
but we weren't talking about Ludacris album.
PLEASE BE SMART.

breh, please stop tryna argue about the streets, and go take your medicine while you listen to timbaland & magoo's greatest hits.

I don't care what the source dubbed themselves.....you know what.....nevermind brehette.

edit: you think serious rap fans copped the source for missy & timbaland? man what the f*ck are you on?

yea no chit cherlock. I was just asking if you watched unsung last night. it was a good episode. THATS ALL. but I see your aspergers syndrome is f*ckin up again so i'll fallback.

they may have dropped in the summer, but they didn't take off til the fall.
by poppin, I mean more than just airplay & charts.

I referenced Luda's album because that song was included on his album.

Stop deflecting. You're in here grasping for straws bringing up sales (which you dismissed and ran from before) and even bringing up American Music Awards shows (while dismissing The Source) to bolster your baseless claims.

Yeah, continue the weak mental health insults because you can't debate.

I see you hopped off The Source argument real quick considering what damage that did to your credibility the last time you were dismissive.

The point isn't whether people copped it because of who was on the cover. The point is, you weren't getting a Source cover without making waves.

Why are you asking if I watched Unsung? You clearly were trying to make a connection between Missy being on there for 702 and use that to downplay her standing in Hip Hop.

All of those joints took off before the Fall except "Roll Out". You clearly don't know what you're talking about.

 

[JustCKing]

yea, I know that song from Ludacris album.
but we weren't talking about Ludacris album.
PLEASE BE SMART.

breh, please stop tryna argue about the streets, and go take your medicine while you listen to timbaland & magoo's greatest hits.

I don't care what the source dubbed themselves.....you know what.....nevermind brehette.

edit: you think serious rap fans copped the source for missy & timbaland? man what the f*ck are you on?

yea no chit cherlock. I was just asking if you watched unsung last night. it was a good episode. THATS ALL. but I see your aspergers syndrome is f*ckin up again so i'll fallback.

they may have dropped in the summer, but they didn't take off til the fall.
by poppin, I mean more than just airplay & charts.

I referenced Luda's album because that song was included on his album.

Stop deflecting. You're in here grasping for straws bringing up sales (which you dismissed and ran from before) and even bringing up American Music Awards shows (while dismissing The Source) to bolster your baseless claims.

Yeah, continue the weak mental health insults because you can't debate.

I see you hopped off The Source argument real quick considering what damage that did to your credibility the last time you were dismissive.

The point isn't whether people copped it because of who was on the cover. The point is, you weren't getting a Source cover without making waves.

Why are you asking if I watched Unsung? You clearly were trying to make a connection between Missy being on there for 702 and use that to downplay her standing in Hip Hop.

All of those joints took off before the Fall except "Roll Out". You clearly don't know what you're talking about.

 

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

Breh, that album wasn't considered a flop. It went platinum. There's nothing to support that except more of your delusion.

it was considered a flop by numerous media outlets that you swear by.
particularly before the hot boyz single.

im done with this side-conversation.

I'm sure it's you still trying to claim that Eve was more poppin' than Mobb Deep

if you could follow a conversation, I was directly responding to a certain comment. but you obviously didn't get the memo.

whats funny is, by your standards, Eve was a gazillion trillion times more poppin than mobb deep.​

 

[JustCKing]

youre embarrassing yourself at this point.

I would advise you to stop but we doing numbers.

Only person embarrassing themselves is you. You in this thread looking like Jay crying on the radio after Nas dropped "Ether" going through every stage of defeat from denial to delusion. In here talking about the streets, yet you're still in here defending Eve against Mobb Deep. Then dismissing The Source, but then using the American Music Awards as proof of how big "Love Is Blind Is". Then the main kicker is you saying The Booth is sexist as the reason why Let There Be Eve isn't mentioned on here.

You should be grateful that I'm even continuing to post in this thread. As always, it's other posters with actual knowledge and real discussion saving your threads from oblivion. "Show gratitude in the presence of dominance".

 

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

No rebuttal. On to the next one



Eve's debut had R&B on it and Eve herself sings so you're very misinformed on that end.

Timbaland has helmed important rap albums. Check the thread. What's funny is you're not even in here going to bat for Ruff Ryders Compilation or Flesh of My Flesh, you're in here trying to prop up an Eve album over a Mobb Deep album and you're the only one who is delusional enough to argue that.



Thread was aimed at the entire board according to the title. You pretty much concede to Timbaland being more popular than Swizz as a Hip Hop producer

Breh, don't even come in here trying to imply that I'm a female. You the one that exposed you were pink when you 1) brought up how an Eve album was more poppin than a Mobb Deep album 2) said the Booth was sexist because no one even mentioned said album

List wasn't even generated by the media.

Since we discussing Missy and you can't seem to stay away from posting moist comments, I'm sure the joint below will speak to the feminist in you since you claim The Booth is sexist:

theres no rebuttal on my end, because the comment you made was dumb as f*ck.

and how are you gonna tell me who I was referring to when I made the f*ckin thread??? what the hell is wrong with you?

lol. so youre comparing Eve singing a hook or having an r&b singer on a hook here-n-there, to missy who is a full-fledged hybrid artist, that doesn't even rap on a lot of her hits and has far & away a bigger r&b audience than a hip-hop audience? youre so dense.

so who generated the list? casuals? kids? just come out & say it? whats the big secret?

im not implying anything. if youre not a female, then youre some sort of transformer......unless you just want to admit that you have aspergers or something. that would explain everything.

 

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

Timbaland, The Neptunes, and Swizz were all in the same lane. They were all producers capable of giving an artist a street joint, but could also give an artist a street joint that would be viable enough to chart to some capacity. Every Swizz joint wasn't some hardbody street joint. He had his share of R&B tinged, commercial singles too most notably the Eve singles ("Gotta Man" and "Love Is Blind"). Then there's the commercial singles like "Girls Best Friend". Swizz wasn't phased out, he just needed to find his sound.

You're contradicting yourself with saying Swizz being a go-to for Beyonce. Beyonce is a singer and you're out here saying Timbaland and The Neptunes were in the R&B lane, yet here you are claiming Swizz was the go-to for Beyonce (which he wasn't, he just had several joints on the album and after that album, she never really used him again).

Swizz wasn't borderline old school. See that's the BS that you're being called out for in the thread. Swizz, Kanye, Just, Timbaland, and The Neptunes are all contemporaries. Kanye and Just were all producing songs in the late 90's, but didn't blow until 2001. You can't say Swizz was borderline old school without saying the other four were borderline old school (which renders your argument null and void considering the others were still dominant). Swizz ran into a wall with nowhere to go until he put out Cassidy, who again came with an R&B tinged single in "Hotel" featuring R. Kelly.

can you read?

I said swizz started doing beats for beyonce LATER ON.
timbaland didn't make street joints like that. he made radio joints that the streets accepted but he rarely had notable album cuts.
I also already noted that the neptunes had the street joints poppin but barely any of that stuff sold. like I said, it wasn't their bread-n-butter like swizz beatz(at the time), just blaze, heatmakerz, etc. how hard is this for you to understand?

why don't you ask me to explain what borderline old school means, instead of rambling off about a term that you clearly don't know the meaning of?

Yeah. I typed up a bunch of stuff but you pretty much covered it.

Ill just add the receipts

Swizz Beatz production discography - Wikipedia

youre proving my point, actually.

gotta love the coli.​

 

[JustCKing]

it was considered a flop by numerous media outlets that you swear by.
particularly before the hot boyz single.

im done with this side-conversation.

if you could follow a conversation, I was directly responding to a certain comment. but you obviously didn't get the memo.

whats funny is, by your standards, Eve was a gazillion trillion times more poppin than mobb deep.​

If you're that confident that it was a flop, post the outlets. Put up or shut up.

By my standards, Eve was not a gazillion trillion times more poppin than Mobb Deep. For starters, both albums went platinum and Eve didn't get a 2X Platinum certification until her sophomore album came out.

 

[JustCKing]

can you read?

I said swizz started doing beats for beyonce LATER ON.
timbaland didn't make street joints like that. he made radio joints that the streets accepted but he rarely had notable album cuts.
I also already noted that the neptunes had the street joints poppin but barely any of that stuff sold. like I said, it wasn't their bread-n-butter like swizz beatz(at the time), just blaze, heatmakerz, etc. how hard is this for you to understand?

why don't you ask me to explain what borderline old school means, instead of rambling off about a term that you clearly don't know the meaning of?

Swizz had R&B joints BEFORE he started working with Beyonce most notably Mya's "Best of Me" feat. Jada.

Timbaland had street joints on pretty much every Jay album he was a part of. He had notable album cuts.

And yeah, The Neptunes street joints sold albums.

Apparently, you don't what borderline old school means either. It's just some BS, cheese jargon you threw out there when you were on the ropes with your struggle arguments.