So, when are we going to realize that Obama isn't a Civil Rights leader

[NYC Rebel]

Are nikkaz really this petty? So fukk the fact he is doing shyt to improve the community and meeting with leaders in the White House, nikkaz are mad because he doesn't say black people enough? Black folks man, crabs in a god damn barrel I tell you.

Dog....I said speak for them.

How the fukk do you call it crabs in the corny ass barrel when we still VOTED FOR HIM and even MORESO in 2012?

I swear...the knee jerk thing niqqas reach for are these corny ass euphemisms...."crab in the barrel"

fukk outta here with that corny shyt. The niqqa still got our vote. We're asking him to speak directly to us as a group at times like he openly does for others.

Obama to AIPAC: 'I have Israel's back' - CSMonitor.com

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0312/73588.html

 

[Born2BKing]

Dog....I said speak for them.

How the fukk do you call it crabs in the corny ass barrel when we still VOTED FOR HIM and even MORESO in 2012?

I swear...the knee jerk thing niqqas reach for are these corny ass euphemisms...."crab in the barrel"

fukk outta here with that corny shyt. The niqqa still got our vote. We're asking him to speak directly to us as a group at times like he openly does others.

Obama to AIPAC: 'I have Israel's back' - CSMonitor.com


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You are using terrible examples breh. Show me where he addresses latinos or any other ethnicity and speaks directly to them and issues that only effect them. So your saying if he says he supports a city with majority blacks, then he is speaking directly to them as well correct?

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

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Doesnt address or punish bank discrimination. And to be honest Obama has been pretty lax on banks in general, starting with his passing up on a bailout deal that would have put banks on the hook for the stupid loans they made, instead of the taxpayer

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This is just a start of inquiries, not actual policy. They are just looking into it, doesn't mean they will do something about it

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What does this have to do with racial gerrymandering

 

[NYC Rebel]

You are using terrible examples brehs. Show me where he addresses latinos or any other ethnicity and speaks directly to them and issues that only effect them. So your saying if he says he supports a city with majority blacks, then he is speaking directly to them as well correct?

Again....no one is asking him to speak to black folks along the lines of speaking to issues that ONLY effect them.

NO ONE. Why are you insisting that I find something I or most people didn't ask of him?

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Doesnt address or punish bank discrimination

This is just a start of inquiries, not actual policy. They are just looking into it, doesn't mean they will do something about it


What does this have to do with racial gerrymandering

So basically you want Obama to make white people stop being racist not gonna happen.

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

So basically you want Obama to make white people stop being racist not gonna happen.

Naw, I just want him to do more than just talk about or "look into" issues that primarily affect black people, like he does for more politically profitable special interest groups. Like I said before nobody can stop cultural or individual racism, but the president can def put a stop to institutional racism

 

[Born2BKing]

Again....no one is asking him to speak to black folks along the lines of speaking to issues that ONLY effect them.

NO ONE. Why are you insisting that I find something I or most people didn't ask of him?

Because I can't believe you could be pissed off at Obama for semantics instead of policy.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Naw, I just want him to do more than just talk about or "look into" issues that primarily affect black people, like he does for more politically profitable special interest groups. Like I said before nobody can stop cultural or individual racism, but the president can def put a stop to institutional racism

If I bring up stuff he's done you'll say "but he doesn't talk about black issues" then when I bring up stuff he's talked about you say "that's just talk no action"

You dudes just want to complain. And please explain to me how one president can "put an end to institutionalized racism"

 

[Born2BKing]

Yea but 80% of the people it helps are Latino. Anyone else it helps is just gravy.

We are facing a lot of issues to this day, whether it is bank loan discrimination, police brutality, racial gerrymandering, whatever. And these are issues specific to us that dude refuses to touch. I would have the same gripe w/any other president but with dude its especially egregious considering who he is and how he came up. Nobody is asking for preferential treatment, but for blacks to get second class treatment from a black president... I don't see why you don't feel people should have the right to talk about that

Do you realize how many different segments of the population have issues they would want Obama to address? Asking him to address issues that are not hot button issues with mass support just because he is black is illogical and he shouldn't be asked to do that. We the people have to make it an issue and get out and force Obama to act.

 

[bzb]

Naw, I just want him to do more than just talk about or "look into" issues that primarily affect black people, like he does for more politically profitable special interest groups. Like I said before nobody can stop cultural or individual racism, but the president can def put a stop to institutional racism

no he cannot. the president doesn't create laws. that's the job of congress.

obama does enough for black america. he leads by example. he has done more than any other president has to directly address racial issues, without disenfranchising the rest of the country. he is after all, the President of the United States. mot the President of the United States for black folks.

he can't make black people take control of our lives and our future. we at some point have to realize that obama can't focus on issues that affect the black community. that's our job, not his.

 

[NYC Rebel]

Because I can't believe you could be pissed off at Obama for semantics instead of policy.

When you speak directly to a people, you get nuanced feedback that you can't get when they're lost amongst a collective.

Like I said....he needs to speak DIRECTLY to blacks, hear them out and based on that, use his stature to come up with initiatives he may not have come to prior to it.

He seems to have no problems doing that for other groups.

 

[Broke Wave]

@BarNone

The funniest thing about this is that you think it's an irrational proposition for people to ask specifically what you would like Obama to work on for black people. You're blindly ranting again and again and point out shyt that has nothing to do with black people, and from to time post shyt that is completely contrary to black america. You've seen time and again that most Americans don't give a shyt about drones overseas so why the hell would that enter a discussion about Obama and black people talking about that... That is two different discussions, but you keep trying to equate your general critiques of Obama with critiques all black people should make. That's all I have to say to on that my dude. But on a more general note, if someone asks what Obama is supposed to do, the simple answer is where are the jobs in the black community. More so than anything that is what he promised to poor people, jobs and job training and investment in education. Hold a politician up to his promises, not up to things he never promised. That's why hispanicss asked where the dream act was, that's why homosexuals asked where his recognition of gay marriage was, that's why women asked for wage equality bills, etc. It's like you all want black people to be the only people not to question someone running for office on what he actually promised you. I've never seen anything like it. That's why as much as I, and a large percentage of people on here think @Type Username Here is completely unrealstic 70% of the time, I can respect his critique because Obama straight up campagined on rolling back executive power, but then kept it and in some ways expanded it. I make it myself (not that my critiques are better than anyone else's).

First of all reading this ... I'm not even sure which direction you're going in. Which promise did I deride Obama for not keeping? There are many but in this specific discussion I did not say anything about a promise... I was talking about the irrationality of Obama supporters, especially black ones, using the transitive property to delude themselves into think Obama has helped or will help them in anyway. And as far as drones, corporatism and civil liberties, your argument is that people don't care about them? Well if you look at what I said, I was satirizing the fact that people don't know or care about them it doesn't make them any less or more significant.

I know that Obama didn't promise anything in specific to the black community, hes too smart of a politician for that, but the fact remains he has done absolutely nothing for the increasing levels of black poverty and the rampant violence and incarceration which plagues and perpetuates this poverty, and whether it's Obama or Bush not doing anything, it's still disgusting.

Finally, as far as @ogc163 disagreeing with myself on Economics, I think that in my view, and I think I can speak for him on this, that Obama's violations in terms of Corporate nepotism and disregard for the Constitution are so egregious that economics almost takes a back seat to these pertinent issues. Obama's justice department refused to prosecute HSBC for obvious violations of the law, including laundering money for Al-Qaeda, because according to THEM, this would damage the integrity of the global economy. I'm sure you'll find a delightful way to spin that but between me and OGC regardless of our views on economic theory that, and the dozens more examples of clear market distortion and almost 3rd world crypto-corruption, are totally unacceptable.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

When you speak directly to a people, you get nuanced feedback that you can't get when they're lost amongst a collective.

Like I said....he needs to speak DIRECTLY to blacks, hear them out and based on that, use his stature to come up with initiatives he may not have come to prior to it.

He seems to have no problems doing that for other groups.

Obama speaks directly to blacks all the time.

 

[bzb]

When you speak directly to a people, you get nuanced feedback that you can't get when they're lost amongst a collective.

Like I said....he needs to speak DIRECTLY to blacks, hear them out and based on that, use his stature to come up with initiatives he may not have come to prior to it.

He seems to have no problems doing that for other groups.

you may have selective hearing. obama has directly addressed black folks several times. commencement speeches at hbcu's, nationally televised speeches, and in writing.

there are more than enough initiatives in place to help black folks and other minorities. we have to start taking responsibility for ourselves. and stop expecting obama to...


that's the problem with our black community now. expecting others to save us instead of bustin our azzes and saving ourselves. it ain't easy and it ain't fair, but it's entirely possible. excuses need to stop.

 

[bzb]

..the fact remains he has done absolutely nothing for the increasing levels of black poverty and the rampant violence and incarceration which plagues and perpetuates this poverty, and whether it's Obama or Bush not doing anything, it's still disgusting.

that's not the president's job! the tools needed to reverse these issues are already out there. a lot of people just trapped in a cycle of ignorance and poverty that they don't want to break out of themselves. he can't hold every black person's hand and drag them to success. he can't make goons stop being goons. he can't make the ignant cats stop being ignant. he can't make lazy azz men and women in the hood get up and do something other than waiting for the ebt card to re-up.

where is the expectation for people to take responsibility of their own lives in all of this?