Dusty Bake Activate
Fukk your corny debates
Lol...yall don't get tired arguing about the same shyt over and over again?
So, when are we going to realize that Obama isn't a Civil Rights leader
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About 80% of this is about me personally, Broke Wave... and about 10% is about yourself, and 10% is about the issue.
If you want to characterize my arguments one way or another that's fine. I will never in my life be a fan of Barack Obama. I do not like the way he has abused the constitution and been a corporate lap dog, 2 things you will not even deny yourself. But lets step away from the personal opinions and get to the meat, the facts.
IF we take incarceration in general to be the central point of discussion, we would be wandering away from my point, but we'll do this for the sake of discussion. I said the word incarceration in relation to black poverty, so Obama's Prison to Work program, although it does help African American prisoners, does not fit the criteria of solving the issue of mass incarceration, it only makes the situation of those already incarcerated more affable. It's like if President Bush increased funding to Prisons to make them safer... it does not address the root causes of this specific type of incarceration. A general increase in the standard of living for inmates and a general increase in their career prospects is not what I was alluding to. Furthermore, the program has not even been so widely instituted so it constitutes another failure by Obama in my view.
PolitiFact | The Obameter: Increase minority access to capital
Staying on the issue of incarceration, President Obama has given himself the power to incarcerate without a warrant American Citizens indefinitely, a grossly unconstitutional power grab. He has also continued the decades long war on drugs, which has unjustly incarcerated millions, especially minorities and especially African Americans. Finally on incarceration, he has yet to incarcerate a single banker for the fraud which occurred during the financial meltdown and has even failed to thoroughly investigate these frauds, siting "financial stability" through his justice department.
Obama has acutally GROWN prisons, and chooses to spend MORE on incarceration.
Obama Budget: Grow Prisons and Keep Gitmo | Mother Jones
I don't care if you'll ever be a fan of Obama or not. That's not my problem, and we've gone down that path before, so I don't know why you keep stating it. But I'll let that go for the sake of keeping on this trajectory. You made this about you, you were one in a long line of people I responded to. Frame stuff however you want. But imagine that, you actually used the sources I told you to and you created a post that I can genuinely respect for actually beginning to talk about actual policy implications. You didn't fully evaluate anything and you chose to reach short conclusions--particularly in regard to the increase in size of prisons (which most would forgive on a messageboard), but you actually engaged in a policy discussion. IMAGINE THAT. The only thing I've been telling you to do for months. That's all. Now, I don't know where you were going with this because I wasn't stating that Obama's policy worked, I was just stating that is where one should start a discussion. So kudos.
I hope you finally get my point. 
Broke Wave
The GOAT
nikka NO not you, fukk off 
you been on muhammeds ass since 07I don't care if you'll ever be a fan of Obama or not. That's not my problem, and we've gone down that path before, so I don't know why you keep stating it. But I'll let that go for the sake of keeping on this trajectory. You made this about you, you were one in a long line of people I responded to. Frame stuff however you want. But imagine that, you actually used the sources I told you to and you created a post that I can genuinely respect for actually beginning to talk about actual policy implications. You didn't fully evaluate anything and you chose to reach short conclusions--particularly in regard to the increase in size of prisons (which most would forgive on a messageboard), but you actually engaged in a policy discussion. IMAGINE THAT. The only thing I've been telling you to do for months. That's all. Now, I don't know where you were going with this because I wasn't stating that Obama's policy worked, I was just stating that is where one should start a discussion. So kudos.
its all love tho, we disagree but that don't mean we can't build bro.Dusty Bake Activate
Fukk your corny debates
That's the spirit of the
taking over.
About 80% of this is about me personally, Broke Wave... and about 10% is about yourself, and 10% is about the issue.
If you want to characterize my arguments one way or another that's fine. I will never in my life be a fan of Barack Obama. I do not like the way he has abused the constitution and been a corporate lap dog, 2 things you will not even deny yourself. But lets step away from the personal opinions and get to the meat, the facts.
IF we take incarceration in general to be the central point of discussion, we would be wandering away from my point, but we'll do this for the sake of discussion. I said the word incarceration in relation to black poverty, so Obama's Prison to Work program, although it does help African American prisoners, does not fit the criteria of solving the issue of mass incarceration, it only makes the situation of those already incarcerated more affable. It's like if President Bush increased funding to Prisons to make them safer... it does not address the root causes of this specific type of incarceration. A general increase in the standard of living for inmates and a general increase in their career prospects is not what I was alluding to. Furthermore, the program has not even been so widely instituted so it constitutes another failure by Obama in my view.
PolitiFact | The Obameter: Increase minority access to capital
Staying on the issue of incarceration, President Obama has given himself the power to incarcerate without a warrant American Citizens indefinitely, a grossly unconstitutional power grab. He has also continued the decades long war on drugs, which has unjustly incarcerated millions, especially minorities and especially African Americans. Finally on incarceration, he has yet to incarcerate a single banker for the fraud which occurred during the financial meltdown and has even failed to thoroughly investigate these frauds, siting "financial stability" through his justice department.
Obama has acutally GROWN prisons, and chooses to spend MORE on incarceration.
Obama Budget: Grow Prisons and Keep Gitmo | Mother Jones
So my nikka Obama is locking up other nikkas but he's making their prison time more constructive
Born2BKing
Veteran
Some folks expect him to create the agenda, garner the support and follow through with it all himself. Meanwhile the Congressional Black Caucus isn't writing shyt for black people.