So, when are we going to realize that Obama isn't a Civil Rights leader

[NYC Rebel]

upper-class and middle-class blacks are the ones who turn out to vote, dumbass.
Poor nikkas in the hood never bother to vote.

WRONG!!!!

Check out my post with Dr. Blair of John Jay University.

http://www.the-coli.com/higher-lear...cipation-margins-race-class.html#.US5inHp43To

Dr. Blair: Voter turnout overall in the country has been steadily declining since 1960. But in my research of voters between from 1980 until now, I saw that Blacks were increasingly coming to the polls. The most interesting thing was that low income blacks were more likely to vote than any other group in the country. Meanwhile, the middle or upper income Blacks were least likely to vote. White voters were pretty much steady during that time. So, fast forward to 2008 when Obama started running for office, I said, “Hold on. He’s organizing the low-income community.”

 

[MeachTheMonster]

WRONG!!!!

Check out my post with Dr. Blair of John Jay University.

http://www.the-coli.com/higher-lear...cipation-margins-race-class.html#.US5inHp43To

Where did she get her info from? Everything I've heard on the subject has been the total opposite.

 

[NYC Rebel]

Where did she get her info from? Everything I've heard on the subject has been the total opposite.

she's done her own study of about 10 years.

She's a PHd and for years...before Obama was elected the first time, predicted that we were going to see more blacks at the polls than whites.

She's one of the first to break it down along lines of class within the black community.

 

[the mechanic]

We should have figured it out when he threw jeremiah wright under the bus..by the time he got to ignoring MJ passing away and dropping bombs on Africans even the dumbest obamabot should have stopped handing out passes


Yet some of you still persist

 

[MeachTheMonster]

she's done her own study of about 10 years.

She's a PHd and for years...before Obama was elected the first time, predicted that we were going to see more blacks at the polls than whites.

She's one of the first to break it down along lines of class within the black community.

So why would her research be so differnt than the info that's widely available?Did she run polls herself? What numbers did she study to come to this conclusion? Did she provide her research material for analysis?

I'm not denying that she is correct. I've just never heard this conclusion before and it defies logic

 

[NYC Rebel]

So why would her research be so differnt than the info that's widely available?Did she run polls herself? What numbers did she study to come to this conclusion? Did she provide her research material for analysis?

I'm not denying that she is correct. I've just never heard this conclusion before and it defies logic

She damn sure did. It's in her book.

Much of the research that's available lumps blacks and all low income folks together. She parsed it down along lines of income, even breaking down the poor from the working poor to the poverty striken poor.

I read excerpts from her book which she's been writing for the past several years. The election validated her work because she predicted more blacks would go to the polls than whites looking at her data.

Middle and upper income blacks don't want to believe that they do a lot of soapbox posturing and amen cornering.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

She damn sure did. It's in her book.

Much of the research that's available lumps blacks and all low income folks together. She parsed it down along lines of income, even breaking down the poor from the working poor to the poverty striken poor.

I read excerpts from her book which she's been writing for the past several years. The election validated her work because she predicted more blacks would go to the polls than whites looking at her data.

Middle and upper income blacks don't want to believe that they do a lot of soapbox posturing and amen cornering.

I'll have to read her book then. Cause this just doesn't make sense.

 

[ogc163]

She damn sure did. It's in her book.

Much of the research that's available lumps blacks and all low income folks together. She parsed it down along lines of income, even breaking down the poor from the working poor to the poverty striken poor.

I read excerpts from her book which she's been writing for the past several years. The election validated her work because she predicted more blacks would go to the polls than whites looking at her data.

Middle and upper income blacks don't want to believe that they do a lot of soapbox posturing and amen cornering.

 

[NYC Rebel]

I'll have to read her book then. Cause this just doesn't make sense.

It does after hearing her out. She said Low Income blacks have more incentive to vote during Presidential elections because their relationship to the federal government is tighter than it is to local and state. So they vote more during the presidential elections more than others.

Plus, she talks about their political efficacy being met.

REad my interview with her.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

It does after hearing her out. She said Low Income blacks have more incentive to vote during Presidential elections because their relationship to the federal government is tighter than it is to local and state. So they vote more during the presidential elections more than others.

Plus, she talks about their political efficacy being met.

REad my interview with her.

Yeah I read that part. But the sheer numbers just don't seem to add up. Overall poor voters vote way less than middle/upper class. I just don't see this fact that holds true all around the world being the total opposite for black folks. If about 60% of black folks voted and about 30% of black people are considered poor even if all poor people voted that would only be half of our votes.

I wonder what she is considering poor or middle class. I also think she is going by percentages instead of sheer numbers. If she picked a small group of people in a certain income group and compared them to a much larger more diverse group then I could see the disparity. Also is she going by the percentage of people who actually voted overall in each group, Or is she going by the percentage of registered voters who actually voted. There's a big difference.

Do you have anything showing the exact numbers she found and how she found them?

 

[NYC Rebel]

Yeah I read that part. But the sheer numbers just don't seem to add up. Overall poor voters vote way less than middle/upper class. I just don't see this fact that holds true all around the world being the total opposite for black folks. If about 60% of black folks voted and about 30% of black people are considered poor even if all poor people voted that would only be half of our votes.

I wonder what she is considering poor or middle class. I also think she is going by percentages instead of sheer numbers. If she picked a small group of people in a certain income group and compared them to a much larger more diverse group then I could see the disparity. Also is she going by the percentage of people who actually voted overall in each group, Or is she going by the percentage of registered voters who actually voted. There's a big difference.

Do you have anything showing the exact numbers she found and how she found them?

She broke down the differences within class and how it needs to also to be separated by region. Making $60k a year in the south is middle class while in NYC, you're barely out of the working poor.

She really broke it down.

I only had a 60 page excerpt. The book is pretty expensive.

[ame=http://www.amazon.com/Participation-Margins-Is-Race-Class/dp/3659303178]Amazon.com: Participation at the Margins: Is it Race or Class? (9783659303173): Zulema Blair: Books[/ame]

 

[MeachTheMonster]

She broke down the differences within class and how it needs to also to be separated by region. Making $60k a year in the south is middle class while in NYC, you're barely out of the working poor.

She really broke it down.

I only had a 60 page excerpt. The book is pretty expensive.

Amazon.com: Participation at the Margins: Is it Race or Class? (9783659303173): Zulema Blair: Books

Guess i got some buying and reading to do

 

[NYC Rebel]

Guess i got some buying and reading to do

I've learned to stop devaluing low income blacks.

A low income black woman is more likely to go to college and finish school than a low income white woman.

Not everything from poor folk is bad, despite what middle and upper income people crow at $500 a plate chicken dinner functions to hear Bill Cosby shyt on them.

 

[DEAD7]

When is the last time everyone actually liked the president?

presidents are always hated.

 

[Mowgli]

Obama is a man of the people,




























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