So the longshoremen are about to go on strike on the East and Gulf coasts.

[Absolut]

Scraping the bottom of the barrel trying to smear them. This country is full of idiots.

How are facts “smearing” this union head bozo

 

[the cac mamba]

How are facts “smearing” this union head bozo

i asked @Pull Up the Roots if his tears and rhetoric apply exactly the same to coal miners, and he refused to answer

he's nothing but a liberal partisan hack. he doesn't give a shyt about workers if it doesn't fit his agenda

 

[JP_614]

So how long would it take to fully automize a port?

 

[Pull Up the Roots]

i asked @Pull Up the Roots if his tears and rhetoric apply exactly the same to coal miners, and he refused to answer

he's nothing but a liberal partisan hack. he doesn't give a shyt about workers if it doesn't fit his agenda

I didn't refuse to answer. I have an answer written up and it's still saved in the forum drafts. I asked you to actually reply to what I was saying instead of deflecting to an entirely different subject, and you refused, because you're not capable of any serious thought.

You, on the other hand, refused to answer why you were citing a white supremacist account pushing anti-Black racism, including IQ pseudoscience bullshyt, and you disappeared. Want to take the time to answer it now while you're here?

Let's look at some of the content from that shytty, racist account:














These are the people informing your opinions.

It's annoying how the mods just let you continue to post shyt from openly racist accounts on here.

 

[BigMoneyGrip]

They knocking down $200k a year that includes overtime..

They can get all the fukk the way outta here

 

[the cac mamba]

I didn't refuse to answer. I have an answer written up and it's still save in the forum drafts.

 

[the cac mamba]

So how long would it take to fully automize a port?

if China can do it, we can do it better

there's more people that work at Arby's, than work as longshoremen. but no one in here would give a fukk if Arby's went out of business

if longshoremen are gonna threaten our economy because a 50% raise on 150k a year "isn't enough", they can fukkin go

 

[Absolut]

i asked @Pull Up the Roots if his tears and rhetoric apply exactly the same to coal miners, and he refused to answer

he's nothing but a liberal partisan hack. he doesn't give a shyt about workers if it doesn't fit his agenda

The mouthpiece of the negotiations having his life put on front street. That’s what happens when you run your mouth talking down to the rest of the country threatening to cripple folks who just had their lives flipped upside down in his region. Absolutely laughable to think of the surfacing of those facts about him is smearing

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

These guys turned down a 50% raise

So what? They’re going after what they are actually worth, which is more than a 50 percent raise

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

I'll be glad when automation takes over....this shyt is ridiculous, now I gotta deal with high ass prices coming because of yall bs.

You were dealing with high prices prior to the strike. Can you explain why?

 

[Pull Up the Roots]

They knocking down $200k a year that includes overtime..

They can get all the fukk the way outta here

No they do not. The average salaries vary based on factors like job type, experience, and location. For many ILA members, salaries typically range from $60k to over $100k annually, depending on the specific roles and overtime hours worked. Some highly skilled or senior workers might earn more, potentially reaching the $200,000 mark with extreme overtime, but that is not the average salary for the average worker.

The excerpt that keeps being spammed on social media is irrelevant and misleading to what is currently happening, because it is about the ILWU, not the ILA, which is currently striking. Even then, it comes with caveats.

The caveat on the PMA data is that a portion of union registrants are under the full-time threshold. Of longshore workers, 42% worked less than 2,000 hours in 2022. The bulk of longshore workers (including non-full-time workers) earned in the $100,000-$200,000 range, with a significant number working fewer hours down in five figures.

Among clerks, 19% worked less than 2,000 hours, with overall earnings bunched in the $150,000-$225,000 range. Of walking bosses and foremen, only 10% did not meet the full-time definition.

The average 2022 ILWU registrant base rate — $46.23 per hour — doesn’t sound that steep for skilled labor. But as the PMA explained in its annual report, worker earnings also include an additional component based on skill level. Skill bonuses range from $2.40 to $5.80 per hour and were added in 80.7% of hours paid last year.

Pay also increases for the second shift (eight hours starting at 6 p.m.) and third shift (five hours starting at 2:30 a.m.) to $61 to $83 per hour. Work on these shifts accounted for 38.5% of total hours paid last year.

Then there is overtime, which accounted for 36.4% of hours paid in 2022. Overtime pay rates range from $69 to $93 per hour. Altogether, the PMA said the effects of skills bonuses, work shifts and overtime brought the effective average rate for all hours paid to $64.10.

COVID was yet another key factor. The ILWU labor force was essential to keeping goods flowing during the pandemic, despite risks to the dockworkers’ health. At least 43 union members died of COVID, according to the ILWU.

The change in consumer behavior during the pandemic led to a flood of cargo into West Coast ports that continued through the first half of last year, hiking both straight hours (non-overtime) and overtime.

The PMA paid ILWU registrants at all U.S. West Coast ports total wages of $2.31 billion in 2022, up $371 million or 19% versus 2019, pre-pandemic. The effective hourly rate rose 7% over the three-year period. Straight time was 22,895,230 hours in 2022, up 8% from 2019. Overtime came in at 13,084,540 hours, up 16%.

West Coast dockworkers making $200K demand higher pay

Dockworkers who keep West Coast cargo flowing are highly paid. Their bid for even higher pay is starting to affect the cargo flow.

www.freightwaves.com

 

[maxamusa]

company he works for can't get their products in right now
seems weird they would lay him off that quick, ain't even been a week yet

sounds phishy

 

[Pull Up the Roots]

That's what I thought. Any comment on why you keep citing anti-Black racists?

The mouthpiece of the negotiations having his life put on front street. That’s what happens when you run your mouth talking down to the rest of the country threatening to cripple folks who just had their lives flipped upside down in his region. Absolutely laughable to think of the surfacing of those facts about him is smearing

You're acting like someone's bank account or lifestyle somehow negates the fact that they're fighting for workers who are getting screwed over. This isn’t about "talking down" to anyone, it's about standing up to corporations that are perfectly fine with keeping people underpaid. Throwing out details about someone's house or salary is a lazy, desperate move to distract from the real issue. Just because he has some luxuries doesn't mean he's not fighting tooth and nail to get better pay and conditions for the workers he represents. The same people trying to shift the focus to that are the same ones who have no problems with corporations raping the planet to death. I guess you all are fine with the death threats he's getting too, right?

 

[maxamusa]

Should've got some engineering experience and then they wouldn't have to worry about automation

elaborate

 

[the cac mamba]

So what? They’re going after what they are actually worth, which is more than a 50 percent raise

but the capacity for automation says they actually aren't worth that

i'm sorry that's the reality; but that's the reality. all they're doing is making the case to automate them away faster