so, Ross did 56k in his 2nd week

[Big Mel]

Second only to Nicki Minaj aka THE BIGGEST FLOP OF THE YEAR.


He's second to a massive flop. And this is his time.

 

[rapdonttweet]

lol 19 pages of people claiming Ricky's career is over for selling more than any of his previous albums. People are fukking morons.

 

[Cladyclad]

When they became stars is besides the point. Aside from me erroneously saying X had a Top 10 hit, each of those artist had much more going for them than Ross. We're talking about five of the highest selling artists in Hip Hop period. They didn't just blow up solely off of a connection with fans. If so, DMX and 50 wouldn't have lost touch. The connection could not have been that deep if they lost touch where Jay has managed to sustain success even after changing his sound and style over the years.

Rick Ross is far from being Def Jam's flagship artist. Kanye West and Rihanna are far more flagship artists than Ross.

How exactly did Def Jam blow it with Ross? Dude just sold 218K in his first week, second only to Nicki Minaj in the Rap market. There aren't many artists in 2012 period that moved that amount in the first week and Def Jam blew it? Based on what criteria?

Def Jam is only in charge of Ross's solo album releases. His mixtape releases are pretty much in Ross's control. The MMG releases are under Warner Bros.

Ross my not be the sole flagship artist at Def Jam. But he is very high priority right now over there. And 218k aint cuttin it when u see other artists wit nowhere as much buzz sellin more. No way would i beileve anyone if they told Wale & J Cole would do just as well as Ross. With all this airplay for Ross why isnt his album sellin? Wale sold his album of "Bait" i dont think i even heard that song on radio in Detroit. Far from a top ten hit but sold more than Ross. Def Jam need to put their money behind a new street artist. Gunplay?
But, I guess we have to agree to disagree.

 

[JustCKing]

Ross my not be the sole flagship artist at Def Jam. But he is very high priority right now over there. And 218k aint cuttin it when u see other artists wit nowhere as much buzz sellin more. No way would i beileve anyone if they told Wale & J Cole would do just as well as Ross. With all this airplay for Ross why isnt his album sellin? Wale sold his album of "Bait" i dont think i even heard that song on radio in Detroit. Far from a top ten hit but sold more than Ross. Def Jam need to put their money behind a new street artist. Gunplay?
But, I guess we have to agree to disagree.

218K isn't cuttin' it? By whose standards?

Ross airplay? Nothing from this album has made a considerable impact on the charts. Wale had the Jeremih joint from Self Made Vol. 1 and the "Lotus Flower Bomb" w/ Miguel. J. Cole had "Workout". Not to mention this:

U.S. album sales for the first half of 2012 slumped after seeing growth last year, while digital track sales rose, according to music sales figures released by Nielsen SoundScan on Thursday.

At mid-year 2012, album sales were down 3 percent from 2011 at 150.5 million units sold over the last six months.

At the halfway point in 2011, "21" had sold 2.5 million copies and went on to become the year's top-selling album in 2011 with sales of 5.8 million. Adele's 2008 debut album, "19," is the tenth best-selling album this year.

Lionel Richie's country album "Tuskegee" is the second biggest-selling album in 2012, with 912,000 copies sold since its release in March, and British boy band One Direction notched the third best-seller with their debut set, "Up All Night," selling 899,000 copies, also released in March.

U.S. album sales slump, digital rises in first-half 2012 | Reuters

^^^ Insiders within the industry are saying sales are down. It should be common sense at this point when the biggest seller of the year is an album that was released early 2011. Nothing released this year is even close.

 

[RTF]

Rick Ross has sold 500k+ in 5 out of the last 6 years. At a 600k average that's 3m records and he does the majority of his own promotion.

It's easy money for Def Jam and CONSISTENT. Same with Rihanna, she'll top out at 1m max. with some huge hits, rinse and repeat every year. Consistent money.

 

[Notorioushnic]

lol at nikkas with the excuses. Its a solid album though

 

[swerve]

Ross was supposed to do atleast 300k first week for it to be meeeh

now its

 

[23Barrettcity]

go back to the sales prediction thread, and you'll see that i didn't think ross would even sell as much as nas did. i have ALWAYS held that ross' fanbase is in the streets. he only appeals to street dudes. ross doesn't appeal to anyone else, and street nikkas -- for the most part -- don't buy cds. here is something you HAVE to accept. jeezy can sell TEN MILLION copies of 103, but GFID is clearly the better album. it isn't even up for debate.

people are going to be banging GFID next year. nobody is going to give a fukk about 103. and i'm a jeezy fan. that's my nikka. don't get shyt twisted. but 103 just wasn't a good album. it felt forced as fukk. way too commercial. i just really didn't like it. as much as i didn't like tm102, i say that even that is better. the recession > the real is back > trap or die > tm101 >>>>>>>> anything else he's done.

just accept that you've retreated to the last resort of a jeezy stan. you're touting sales, as if that's ever been a credible means of gauging an artist's appeal to the streets.

No we won't be . Not in NYC

 

[23Barrettcity]

When they became stars is besides the point. Aside from me erroneously saying X had a Top 10 hit, each of those artist had much more going for them than Ross. We're talking about five of the highest selling artists in Hip Hop period. They didn't just blow up solely off of a connection with fans. If so, DMX and 50 wouldn't have lost touch. The connection could not have been that deep if they lost touch where Jay has managed to sustain success even after changing his sound and style over the years.

Rick Ross is far from being Def Jam's flagship artist. Kanye West and Rihanna are far more flagship artists than Ross.

How exactly did Def Jam blow it with Ross? Dude just sold 218K in his first week, second only to Nicki Minaj in the Rap market. There aren't many artists in 2012 period that moved that amount in the first week and Def Jam blew it? Based on what criteria?

Def Jam is only in charge of Ross's solo album releases. His mixtape releases are pretty much in Ross's control. The MMG releases are under Warner Bros.

you guys being ridiculous . Sound like pr people trying to explain figures and shyt. Nicki and ross both flopped happy but nicki still outperforming Ross and gets radio play everywhere . Def jam made a big deal about Ross they expected big things with all these listening sessions claiming it's a classic , according to this board he's running the rap game it's clearly drake but that's another issue. Ross has no cross over appeal and doesn't have the streets locked that's a random term you guys throwing around .
Ross doesn't sell singles gets a million features no big tours it's time you guys accept it he's not a big deal . He must care about sales or he wouldn't release these horrible ass songs for girls knowing bytches don't feel him like that .jeezy ft ne-yo >>> all Ross attempts at cross over hits
Lol of course he controls his own mixtape releases Wth kind of point is that
Banks >>>>> Ross lyrics content everything

 

[23Barrettcity]

lol 19 pages of people claiming Ricky's career is over for selling more than any of his previous albums. People are fukking morons.

def jam buys those shyts and you know it . Wait till he doesn't even reach 500,000 for a year and is his worst selling album

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

being real i dont give a fukk about 90% of the sound u listed

big poppa,one more chance rmx,hypnotize,mo money mo problems,fukkin you tonight, i need love,jingling baby,around the way girl,loungin remix,doin it

bolded is the only ones i fukk wit, and being real none of them songs would be that big in todays hip hop, they not pop enough

Now that i see you're only 21,there aint too much more to say. You're a kid. When some of these songs dropped you werent even alive or you were a toddler. You're not even supposed to get the valid points i've dropped,which is why YOU DONT GET IT.

 

[rapdonttweet]

def jam buys those shyts and you know it . Wait till he doesn't even reach 500,000 for a year and is his worst selling album

Deeper Than Rap first week sales; 158,000
second week: 51,000

\thread. You people are embarrassing yourself.

 

[hex]

Deeper Than Rap first week sales; 158,000
second week: 51,000

\thread. You people are embarrassing yourself.

That album also never went gold....

Fred.

 

[HendriX]

Rick Ross was never a big dog in this Hip Hop business...his about drug wars and him "running" hip hop made his stans actually believe he was some kind of hip hop icon.

 

[SafeForWork]

God, forgive my flop.