So mike brown is a reasonable scape goat for kobe but not for lebron?

[NYC Rebel]

Nobody is saying that though. The issue is passing over the star player to blame the coach now when in the past this same coach was passed over in order to blame the star. That is all. Not about shytting on Kobe (for me at least) It's all about shytting on the flimsy reasoning that people use to cover their bias.

Exactly.

Who is saying it's BULLshyt. Dude is manufacturing those people now. It was "bullshyt" "whining" and all of that other shyt when people were applying that to Lebron when coached under Brown. I see no COLLECTIVE evidence of people saying it's bullshyt now.

The world is ass backwards. You have more people who complain about people allegedly complaining than the alleged complainers themselves.

It's sickening.

 

[Newzz]

I just don't get it.

I responded to Charles Barkley and the rest of the clowns that claimed "Kobe quit" when facing the Suns after being up 3-1 by doing what @killerinstinct would call if done on Lebron's behalf "whining" when stating that it wasn't on Kobe that the Lakers fell short.

I also said the same thing about Lebron when he was under Mike Brown who was constantly being outcoached and outclassed by other coaches. That was considered "whining." But when Kobe fans complain about Brown for the SAME REASONS it's legit.

fukk being an unprincipled negro who suddenly finds principles based on "who you like more."

The ones who fit that bill are some selective ass negros.

So....how do you determine who is a Kobe fan vs Lakers fan breh? Especially when you are a self-proclaimed Lakers fan One can easily say you are just a Kobe fan, or more likely, a former Shaq stan who stuck around and remained a fan of the Lakers.

Bottomline is, most LWO members dont give a fukk about what Mike Brown did on the Cavs...he sucks as our teams coach. does that have to do with LeBron?

We cant want him gone and blame him for our early season struggles when the reason we are losing are CLEAR AS DAY?

The reasons we are losing is not the offense. Lakers aint playing bad offense, but Mike Brown aint an offensive coach so he gets no credit for that. Eddie Jordan introduced the Princeton offense and is our "offensive coordinator".

Mike Clown is a so-called "defensive specialist", but has yet to improve our PnR defense/transition defense/half-court defense, has horrible sub patterns, and makes no half-time adjustments that work.

We can't complain because when you complained it was considered whining? By whom? What fan base? What posters? Give names or quit making up shyt.

at "mystery posters" on project covo causing to you hate on REAL Lakers fans.

 

[NYC Rebel]

So....how do you determine who is a Kobe fan vs Lakers fan breh? Especially when you are a self-proclaimed Lakers fan One can easily say you are just a Kobe fan, or more likely, a former Shaq stan who stuck around and remained a fan of the Lakers.

Bottomline is, most LWO members dont give a fukk about what Mike Brown did on the Cavs...he sucks as our teams coach. does that have to do with LeBron?

We cant want him gone and blame him for our early season struggles when the reason we are losing are CLEAR AS DAY?

The reasons we are losing is not the offense. Lakers aint playing bad offense, but Mike Brown aint an offensive coach so he gets no credit for that. Eddie Jordan introduced the Princeton offense and is our "offensive coordinator".

Mike Clown is a so-called "defensive specialist", but has yet to improve our PnR defense/transition defense/half-court defense, has horrible sub patterns, and makes no half-time adjustments that work.

We can't complain because when you complained it was considered whining? By whom? What fan base? What posters? Give names or quit making up shyt.

at "mystery posters" on project covo causing to you hate on REAL Lakers fans.

I didn't say you COULDN'T complain. But if you're one who said someone was "creating excuses for Lebron" when confronted by a fan who said Brown sucked then you've disqualified yourself from being taken seriously now.

Do YOU fit that bill? If not...keep it moving.

But there are plenty of niqqas in here now complaining about Brown NOW but were saying it's bullshyt to use his name as hurting Bron.

I wish the old board was up so I can pluck the hypocrites.

 

[seemorecizzy]

What does that have to do with Mike Brown's limitations as a head coach not being evenly applied by Kobe fans who are announcing how bad Mike Brown the coach is NOW as opposed to when that same coach was coaching Lebron?

That's the core argument here.

ppl were callin mike brown a bad coach when he was in clevland too
i remember it like yesterday
especially when he got outcoached by doc
it JUST got overshadowed by lebron quitting in game 5 and his pending free agency

calling mike james a limited coach hurts your argument.

if your a "limited" coach that means you can do good in one situation and do bad in the next.

mike james is not a offensive coach
for da most part lebron was creating offense on his own

now u put a coach who is offensively limited on a team with special offensive players like kobe howard nash gasol etc

obviously his weaknesses are gonna be on display on a higher level

he was just a bad signing for da lakers

 

[HendriX]

shyt, he doesn't even get credit for that now....that the Cavs were the best defensive team in the league is an afterthought...and Lebron took and carried that team of complete total worthless bums to back to back 60 win seasons completely by his lonesome....by the time Mike Brown was fired in the weeks leading up to the Decision he was getting killed in the media in articles for being an incompetent pushover who Lebron didn't respect and was only kept around because he let Bron do whatever he wanted

They didnt blame Brown for the Celtics series in 08, Magic in 09 or Celtics in 10..thats a 3 year pass..So by the time lebron was ready to announce his new team, only then the media started to heavily criticize Brown..but Bron was still getting most of the blame..

Meanwhile on this laker team..Kobe is teflon (leader)..and Brown is catching all the punches.
There's a sense of hypocrisy going on that we dont respect at all.

 

[NYC Rebel]

They didnt blame Brown for the Celtics series in 08, Magic in 09 or Celtics in 10..thats a 3 year pass..So by the time lebron was ready to announce his new team, only then the media started to heavily criticize Brown..but Bron was still getting most of the blame..

Meanwhile on this laker team..Kobe is teflon (leader)..and Brown is catching all the punches.
There's a sense of hypocrisy going on that we dont respect at all.

Exactly. Selective ass niqqas. If you aren't one of them, stop defending them. It's true. These hypocrite ass niqqas DO exist.

 

[Newzz]

ppl were callin mike brown a bad coach when he was in clevland too
i remember it like yesterday
especially when he got outcoached by doc
it JUST got overshadowed by lebron quitting in game 5 and his pending free agency

calling mike james a limited coach hurts your argument.

if your a "limited" coach that means you can do good in one situation and do bad in the next.

mike james is not a offensive coach
for da most part lebron was creating offense on his own

now u put a coach who is offensively limited on a team with special offensive players like kobe howard nash gasol etc

obviously his weaknesses are gonna be on display on a higher level

he was just a bad signing for da lakers

Right....coaching the Lakers opens you up for more scrutiny. It's the highest profile coaching position in the basketball world.

Mike Brown is only a defensive coach and the Lakers arent better with him than they were without him on defense. The same problems exist as they did prior to him arriving.

Basically, what IS Mike Clown here for? Where has he improved the Lakers?

^^^That's the question that Jim Buss needs to be asking

 

[HendriX]

Exactly. Selective ass niqqas. If you aren't one of them, stop defending them. It's true. These hypocrite ass niqqas DO exist.

Yeah bruh

I didnt even want to enter this thread cause I knew it would end up in a childish bron vs kobe argument.

But we all grown men in here..we can see whats going on.

 

[Newzz]

They didnt blame Brown for the Celtics series in 08, Magic in 09 or Celtics in 10..thats a 3 year pass..So by the time lebron was ready to announce his new team, only then the media started to heavily criticize Brown..but Bron was still getting most of the blame..

Meanwhile on this laker team..Kobe is teflon (leader)..and Brown is catching all the punches.
There's a sense of hypocrisy going on that we dont respect at all.

Are you speaking on the media? Are you saying that the media would hesitate to discuss a rift in Lakersland between Kobe and Mike Clown, because Kobe is "teflon"

 

[NYC Rebel]

At the end of the day, some niqqas pride themselves as calling it like they see it, regardless of affiliation or being a fan.

My law professor a long time ago told me that most human beings aren't equipped to do that.

I see an example of that in the Seum every day.

 

[HendriX]

Are you speaking on the media? Are you saying that the media would hesitate to discuss a rift in Lakersland between Kobe and Mike Clown, because Kobe is "teflon"

Rifts? Im not talking about bumpin shoulders or any of that dumb ass shiit..Bron was getting shytted on because he couldnt deliver with Brown as the head coach..while Kobe is enjoying his diplomatic immunity so far..with Brown as the head coach.

You cant see that? Forget your Kobe pride for a second..and just analyze the two situations from a rational standpoint.

 

[Long Live The Kane]

Nobody is saying that though. The issue is passing over the star player to blame the coach now when in the past this same coach was passed over in order to blame the star. That is all. Not about shytting on Kobe (for me at least) It's all about shytting on the flimsy reasoning that people use to cover their bias.

When has Kobe ever not been shytted on for something or another a single solitary season the lakers have failed to win a championship...that's a false fukking narrative...dude is one of the more consistently criticised superstars in sports history...kobe got killed this summer like he always does when the lakers lose (hell, kobe got people that hate him enough to hate and downplay him when he wins)...a steady diet of "he's washed up...age has caught up to him...he killed the lakers with turnovers in the playoffs...he's never gonna win another championship...he's not even a top 10 player in the league anymore...etc." Blame "passing over" kobe bryant is nothing you EVER have to worry about...

Besides that..."blame", in the context of losing basketball, ain't some quantifiably finite and mutually exclusive thing that either goes to one of two people...more often than not, when things go bad there's MORE than enough blame to be doled out....star players and coaches both have things they're responsible for as far as winning goes and both get criticized for different things...to that end:

Yes, Lebron was killed for that all time bizzare disappearing act in his last series with the Cavs in which they were favored to win the chip...

Yes, Mike Brown was "on the hot seat" for a great amount of the time as coach in Cleveland and it is there where his reputation as an offensively incompetent doofus of a coach entered the basketball consciousness...and has followed him to this day

Yes, Mike Brown has been looked at skeptically at best and with overt disdain often in his tenure as Lakers Head Coach

Yes, Kobe was killed the past two offseasons the lakers failed to win a championship ....and

YES Kobe will be killed by his usual dedicated crowd of detractors the moment he has first 6-24 shooting performance...or shoots a last second shot and misses (wait, he was already killed for doing that this year...IN A PRESEASON GAME :rudy)...or does any number of anything that people can latch on to, to shyt on him

And none of these things absolve the others...they can all happen independently of each other

at y'all seriously believing that if this lakers team ultimately doesn't win a title kobe will be "skipped over" with blame....the whole shyt is ridiculous

 

[NYC Rebel]

When has Kobe ever not been shytted on for something or another a single solitary season the lakers have failed to win a championship...that's false fukking narrative...dude is one of the more consistently criticised superstars in sports history...kobe got killed this summer like he always does when the lakers lose (hell, kobe got people that hate enough that hate and downplay him when he wins)...a steady diet of "he's washed up...age has caught up to him...he killed the lakers with turnovers in the playoffs...he's never gonna win another championship...he's not even a top 10 player in the league anymore...etc." Blame "passing over" kobe bryant is nothing you EVER have to worry about...

Besides that..."blame", in the context of losing basketball, ain't some quantifiably finite and mutually exclusive thing that either goes to one of two players...more often than not, when things go bad there's MORE than enough blame to be doled out....star players and coaches both have things they're responsible for as far as winning goes and both get criticized for different things...to that end:

Yes, Lebron was killed for that all time bizzare disappearing act in his last series with the Cavs in which they were favored to win the chip...

Yes, Mike Brown was "on the hot seat" for a great amount of the time as coach in Cleveland and it is there where his reputation as an offensively incompetent doofus of a coach entered the basketball consciousness...and has followed him to this day

Yes, Mike Brown has been looked at skeptically at best and with overt disdain often in his tenure as Lakers Head Coach

Yes, Kobe was killed the past two offseasons the lakers failed to win a championship ....and

YES Kobe will be killed by his usual dedicated crowd of detractors the moment he has first 6-24 shooting performance...or shoots a last second shot and misses (wait, he was already killed for doing that this year...IN A PRESEASON GAME :rudy)...

And none of these things absolve the others...

at y'all seriously believing that if this lakers team ultimately doesn't win a title kobe will be "skipped over" with blame....the whole shyt is ridiculous

Anytime you read "Lebron got swept in the finals" and you don't see Mike Brown's name, they're blaming Lebron and Lebron only.

The Lakers are losing games now...and rightfully, no one is blaming Kobe and Kobe only.

 

[CantStop]

the same ones that ask for a seperate Kobe forum are the ones that be talking about Kobe the most.. go figure

 

[HendriX]

Anytime you read "Lebron got swept in the finals" and you don't see Mike Brown's name, they're blaming Lebron and Lebron only.

The Lakers are losing games now...and rightfully, no one is blaming Kobe and Kobe only.

This is coming from a Lakers fan..^^^ dap my breh