So Kevin Gates Is Into Witchcraft For Real?

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[TheBeigeBomber]

its okay. i didnt want to sleep tonight anyway.

 

[TheBeigeBomber]

I'm scared to watch that this late

i turned it off. its 2am in england. im done.

 

[Gorgonite]

I'mma drop some more mythology from the UK about this shyt, as you Americans only just seem to have jumped on the wave (apart from the Louisiana heads). This 'black' magic stuff is a real African tradition that is probably misunderstood by most.

It's the mystery and superstition that gives gangsters who fukk with this shyt power. It doesn't matter if it's real or not, once your name is ringing bells, you have bodies on straps and you haven't been to prison the streets will talk for you.

Like I said I have seen this stuff for myself in parts. A lot of West African/Caribbean dudes out here get drawn in by the mystery surrounding guys like Mark Lambie.

More on Mark aka The Prince of Darkness, the leader of TMD the click that run Tottenham. These nikkas built their reputation on murdering police and anyone who fukks with them. He's locked up but believe he's got pull.

These are the 'Shower' nikkas. Real wicked heart dudes who murder for fun and

Mark Lambie after he got caught in '02.

A long, but dope read below. More available here and at request - I know this isn't 'exactly' on topic.

http://www.freelists.org/post/guide.chat/riot-6-street-gang-called-tottenham-mandem

In the late 1970's, a group of individuals known as the Broadwater Farm Posse
were active on the Broadwater Farm estate (see Broadwater Farm Posse. ). The
Tottenham Mandem, known originally as 'Frontliners' or 'Totten'am Boys', were a
follow on generation to the Farm Posse who had firmly established their
reputation by the time of the 1985 riots on the Broadwater Farm estate.
Police Constable Keith Blakelock was murdered during the course of those riots.
When alleged Broadwater Farm Posse member Winston Silcott was first in custody
after the riots, during questioning after being asked did you murder Police
Constable Blakelock, the police claimed he had been put in the frame by local
youths, also with alleged involvement.

Amongst those kids allegedly involved was Mark Lambie. Lambie was born in 1971
and acquired a string of violent offences as a youth. As said, his first major
allegation was the murder of PC Blakelock, who was hacked to death, in 1985
when he was just 14. Lambie laughed as the case against him and two other
juveniles collapsed. In the following years he built up a fearsome reputation
for shootings, robbery, kidnap, torture and drug-running. Flaunting gold
jewellery, designer clothes and expensive cars, he went on the lead the
Tottenham Mandem gang after the older generation had moved away from the gritty
end of the business, staying in the background to organise and arrange drugs
and firearms for the street gangsters of north London.

Lambie's first major conviction was in 1991 following a gang shooting in
Holloway to which he pleaded guilty for assault occasioning actual bodily harm.
By the mid-1990's, Lambie had links across London (in other notorious areas
such as Harlesden, Ladbroke Grove, Lambeth and Lewisham) and beyond. He and the
Tottenham Mandem took control over large parts of London's street drug trade,
often by force and extreme violence. By 1995, one of his main rivals was
another alleged street gangster Jerome Maddix. There was a drive-by at Maddix's
home and he was murdered the following year in Jamaica.

Maddix's murder was followed by a series of tit-for-tat shootings between TMD
and their rivals from northwest London. Lambie was believed to be an associate
of the Lock City Crew. , who were also engaged in rivalry with another
northwest London 'Yardie' gang. Several murders had occurred by the late 1990's
involving older criminals linked to Tottenham and Harlesden, one of which saw
disc jockey Laverne Forbes and her partner Patrick 'Nookie' Smith gunned down
at their home on the Ferry Lane estate N17.

In 1996, police believed that Lambie and an associate Clifford Angol were
behind the shooting and wounding of Kenneth Rowe in Willesden. Rowe, originally
from Stamford Hill, had been part of a gang of steamers from South Tottenham,
Stamford Hill and Clapton, called the DMC Posse in the late 1980's. Rowe
declined to aid police in his shooting. The following April, in what appeared
to be an attack against Lambie, two men were shot in a case of mistaken
identity at the Place To Be Caribbean restaurant in Kensal Rise. Three gunmen
walked into the restaurant asking for 'Mark' to identify himself. Mark Lambie,
who was believed to have been there, kept quiet. Instead two other men
identified themselves and taking no precautions the gunmen shot both. One was
Mark Spence, an unemployed painter and decorator, who was immediately shot
dead. The other, Mark Verley, was shot in the spine and paralysed. He died
sometime later.

It is not known whether or not Kenneth Rowe was one of the gunmen but six weeks
later he himself was shot dead in Mount Pleasant Lane, Upper Clapton. Lambie
and Angol, suspects in the earlier shooting, were arrested although there was
insufficient evidence. A couple of days later Clifford Angol was shot dead as
he sat in Lambie's BMW outside the Warwick Castle Pub in Portobello Road. The
gunman had pulled up beside him in a yellow car and calmly shot him six times.

The youngest generation of Tottenham Mandem began to establish their fearsome
and violent reputation from 1996-97. The TMD sphere of control in north London
at that point was tremendous. They had influence over a host of new developing
gangs that also arose in the late 1990's such as the Edmonton Firm. , Wood Green
Firm , Hornsey , parts of N19 and bits of N16. This younger generation grew
in secondary schools amongst young teens from 1994-95, together they were the
'Firm' encompassing the aforementioned areas, but they started to become
independent by 1996-97. The wider gang organisation grew to become seemingly a
very organised unit of bosses, lieutenants, soldiers and areas based groups.
The older generations were responsible for different parts of north London and
the local drug markets.

At the top was Mark Lambie, known also as "The Prince of Darkness" or as
"Phantom". He was the boss of the 'street team' that was TMD. Above him
remained the old timers who maintained drug and firearm connections amongst the
organised criminal element with links to the Caribbean. Below Lambie there was
lieutenants who controlled geographical areas: these included men such as
Anthony Bourne, known as Blue from Edmonton, who headed the Edmonton Firm
(sometimes referred to as Edmonton Mandem), Warren Leader was based in Wood
Green and then there was a host of infamous Tottenham criminals.

In 1997, the youngers of TMD, aged predominantly in their mid to late teens,
came into conflict with another gang predominantly from London Fields in
Hackney. It was one of London's most bloodiest and intense gang rivalries
claiming several lives in six years.

Bringing Down Lambie

By 2000, Lambie had gained a reputation for being untouchable and for having
mythical powers, believed by some to possess 'ju-ju powers' - of being a
Obeahman, a Jamaican voodoo spirit who can never be killed. He become the
number one nominal for Operation Trident detectives. Despite his high ranking
position he was still involved in shooting incidents. In November 1999, he was
named as the shooter in an incident at the Coliseum nightclub in Vauxhaul,
south London. He was charged with attempted murder but the victim later
withdrew the evidence, as many victims of TMD and their predecessors have
always done. In another incident, Lambie and a man known as Michael 'Mallet'
Thomas, fired shots at the EQ nightclub in Hackney.
After this incident, Stephan Grant was shot dead, believed to be by TMD members.
Six firearms were found in an abandoned car at the scene.

In another drug related shooting in 2000, Hackney dealer Darren Henry was shot
dead in Sandal Road, Upper Edmonton N18. He had been lured to the area by rival
drug dealer Andrew Martin who had kidnapped Henry's half brothers and held them
hostage. He shot Henry between the shoulder blades with a handgun before leading police on a high speed chase. Kidnapping rivals from Hackney was a trait of Lambie and Tottenham, but it would be his downfall.

Police suspected Lambie in many cases but never had enough evidence to stick.
It was not until the 19th April 2001 that they caught him 'at it'.
The day started with police following Lambie from his Streatham home to
Tottenham where he met up with friends and associates. Things began to look
interesting for officers when they all moved off together in a convoy of three
vehicles with the police following. However, they come across difficulties
fairly quickly as the cars drove into the Broadwater Farm estate, police
decided it was too risky to follow because they were mostly white and would
have stood out on the predominantly black estate. Instead they waited outside
the estate hoping to see Lambie drive off. He was seen leaving in a Golf
together with a blue sports car. After a few minutes the sports car was
abandoned and the driver got into Lambie's car. The two then drove to south
Tottenham and parked up in Turner Avenue before attending a house party on a
nearby estate. There had been 12-hours surveillance and it looked as though
nothing was going to happen and the detectives decided they were going to call
it a day.

On getting back to Tottenham police station a Jamaican, frightened and injured,
dashed into the station with an amazing story of kidnap and torture by Lambie.
It emerged that it had happened right under the noses of the surveillance team
as they were sitting waiting outside Broadwater Farm. Jamaican Gregory 'Beenie
Man' Smith and his friend Towayne 'Tupac' Morris had been lured to the estate
by Lambie's associate Anthony 'Blue' Bourne who said they wanted to meet to
discuss a mutual girlfriend. The Jamaicans headed there in the blue sports car
detectives had seen abandoned earlier that day. They told detectives how they
had been pistol whipped and bundled into the boots of two cars and taken to an
address near Turner Avenue. They were taken to the upstairs room of a flat and
attacked and tortured with a hammer and kettle of hot water whilst threatened
to pay £20,000 in drugs and cash to Lambie. Smith had managed to escape and ran
to the police station.

Mark Lambie and Anthony Bourne were convicted of kidnap and blackmail and
sentenced to 12-years in May 2002. Other gang members Warren Leader and Francis
Osei were also convicted. Lambie and Bourne have finished serving their
sentences for these offences. Clint Ponton was cleared of all charges and
freed.

Even after Lambie's arrest, Trident killings continued to occur around the Farm
and across Tottenham Mandem's area. In October 2001, an 18-year-old, Tyrone
Rowe, was shot dead as he and his friends were in a car on West Green Road near
the Ida estate on route to a party. A second man was discovered near the scene
with stomach wounds. The killer was described as a black man, aged around 30
and wearing a three-quarter length black leather jacket. No motive has ever
been established and the case remains unsolved. In 2010 an appeal was made
urging those with information to come forward and help end the families ordeal.
A £10,000 reward is being offered for information leading to a prosecution.
Shortly after the killing, three men were spotted driving a lime green people
carrier towards Wood Green.

In June 2002, Harrington Mark Jack, 31, also known by various other names
including Andrew Brown or by first names Douglas and Doug, was shot dead at a
flat in Ermine House, Moselle Street by White Hart Lane. Known by the street
name 'Dog', he was shot during a scuffle with two men which could have been
witnessed by a dozen people. A young man was then stabbed to death on the
Chestnut estate in October 2002. Less than a year later, in March 2003,
41-year-old Patrick Anthony Morrison from Edmonton was shot dead in the
stairwell of a housing block on Broadwater Farm. All killings remain unsolved.

CCTV cameras on the Broadwater Farm estate captured the events around the
killing of 28-year-old Gavin Smith in October 2003. He was dragged from his car
into a block of flats before being taken to Lordship Recreation Ground where he
was found dead. This was one attributed by the police to the Yardies. Jason
McDonald and Dwayne Millwood were accused of inflicting the fatal stab wounds.
Jamaican Millwood blamed the killing on another gangster who was deported.
Smith came to London from Jamaica in 2000 and lived in Lewisham, he was
involved in drug dealing, delivering and collecting packages on behalf of the
boyfriend of his sister, Donald Vincent. He fell foul of rivals whilst making a
call at Tangmere House on the Farm. In March 2004, TMD member Marcus Cox was
shot dead on Tottenham High Road. He was gunned down by a fearful Syron Martin.
The killing was shown on an episode of TV documentary 'Murder Blues', which
followed cases of Operation Trident in London, see below links.

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B Dubble the guy I posted before ran with this team. So did this guy Young Spray, certified psycho and happy to tell you what he deals with:



"Take a bath in magic, then I load up the matic/
Phone Uncle Malik, he's like 'Nephew, don't panic'/" @ 2:11

C1, also from Northstar - mentioned in the article above:



"God Bless my men with see-through vests/"


Shower Malik, not the Malik mentioned above but a young G from Peckham in South London - an area with a heavy African/West Indian population and crazy YGs. I actually went to see a 'psychic' in Peckham with my dad once, there's a lot fo them around there.



"I've tore faces, I tore the Kuba man/
Hopped out the blue bath, courtesy of the Juju man"







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[TheBeigeBomber]

I'mma drop some more mythology from the UK about this shyt, as you Americans only just seem to have jumped on the wave (apart from the Louisiana heads). This 'black' magic stuff is a real African tradition that is probably misunderstood by most.

It's the mystery and superstition that gives gangsters who fukk with this shyt power. Like I said I have seen this stuff for myself in parts. A lot of West African/Caribbean dudes out here get drawn in by the mystery surrounding guys like Mark Lambie.

More on Mark aka The Prince of Darkness, the leader of TMD the click that run Tottenham. These nikkas built their reputation on murdering police and anyone who fukks with them. He's locked up but believe he's got pull.

These are the 'Shower' nikkas. Real wicked heart dudes who murder for fun and

Mark Lambie after he got caught in '02.

A long, but dope read below. More available here and at request - I know this isn't 'exactly' on topic.

http://www.freelists.org/post/guide.chat/riot-6-street-gang-called-tottenham-mandem

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B Dubble the guy I posted before ran with this team. So did this guy Young Spray, certified psycho and happy to tell you what he deals with:



"Take a bath in magic, then I load up the matic/
Phone Uncle Malik, he's like 'Nephew, don't panic'/" @ 2:11

C1, also from Northstar - mentioned in the article above:



"God Bless my men with see-through vests/"


Shower Malik, not the Malik mentioned above but a young G from Peckham in South London - an area with a heavy African/West Indian population and crazy YGs. I actually went to see a 'psychic' in Peckham with my dad once, there's a lot fo them around there.



"I've tore faces, I tore the Kuba man/
Hopped out the blue bath, courtesy of the Juju man"







​

I never knew young spray was into this. his voice is demonic

 

[Apollo Creed]

I`m African and that Witchcraft/ Voodoo stuff is REAL, but its not necessarily "evil" its more so what the individual uses it for that can be seen as "good" or "bad"

 

[scarlxrd]

Wait... some people in here really think this shyt is real?

 

[2manyFCKNrappers]

nothing wrong with a little magic breh. i've done some rituals a few times to get what i want.

 

[ThaRealness]

Isn't it kind of gay for a man to be doing witchcraft? #newblacks

 

[010101]

if the crusaders never touched the minds of your soft headed ancestors
with that good ol christian religion

y'all black asses woulda been on this hoodoo voodoo shyt quite comfortably

only difference is hoodoo voodoo didn't get delivered on the edge of a sword or the tip of a bullet like the god of king james

mane like I said
I'm finna roll my own wave

alacazam alacazoo ho*

 

[spliz]

The Romans are CACs and CACs def came up with that Jesus bull shyt


The bible is by CACs and for CACs. They actually incorporated some of our rituals in christanity. The bible has some African energy.

But Christianity's orgins can be traced back Rome.

Son this aint completely right...the Romans is the ones who got that shyt all fukked up...

 

[Apollo Creed]

Wait... some people in here really think this shyt is real?

lol go to the Bush of Liberia or Sierra Leone and say that, I put money you wont come back right.


Theres an interview with Koopsta Knicca where he saysafter they did the cover for Mystic Stylez all of them walked in on some folks doing some rituals in a warehouse, and after that he would use songs to cast spells and stuff

 

[TheBeigeBomber]

I`m African and that Witchcraft/ Voodoo stuff is REAL, but its not necessarily "evil" its more so what the individual uses it for that can be seen as "good" or "bad"

where do you learn this stuff?

 

[Apollo Creed]

where do you learn this stuff?

I dont practice any of it, I know if it because of people I know who have had stuff done to them, or general stories form family. When Liberian folks get really sick they say screw going to the hospital and use that money to catch a flight back home go to the bush and get "fixed"

 

[TheBeigeBomber]

im watching that b dubble interview where he goes into some of this stuff. he says dudes were "leaving their bodies". is that like astral projection? or is it somethign more sinister? @Gorgonite