So if a man kills another man

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Call Tyrone while you're at it.

I didn't say you said anything. I'm asking you a question. Please respond.​

OK it's late. I misread your intentions by that question.

When is it appropriate to rape a baby?

We are talking moral absolutes. As in, an objective moral stance either for or against something.

I'll answer your question by asking one.

So no one raped a baby before?
 

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You feel you have a superior grasp on morality than most people, and to prove that, you claim that killing homeless people and touching babies in defiance of the parents' wishes is acceptable.

It is wrong to murder someone. Even if they don't have any friends or relatives. You say the homeless man doesn't feel or think after death, so it's doing him no harm. That makes no sense. The person didn't wish to die, and was in control/possession of his life which you took from him. How is this justified?
 

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Insane is not knowing what the difference between right and wrong. I question what is right and wrong because that is very much subjective.
I have and have a firm grasp on my own personal views of what's right and wrong and I feel they're superior to most people's.

Prove me wrong and I'll admit I'm insane. Otherwise, stfu. :youngsabo:

No joke that's some Ted Bundy shyt right here.

Whichever one of you fuks is the mole FBI agent / homeland security guy you need to follow that IP address to the dank, blood crusted, 22-decomposing-body-filled-basement we all know it leads too.

I got money on their being a cage with at LEAST 2 children in it too.
 

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A better question is. If one person shoots a guy and he dies. Another person shoots a guy who lives. Why is the first person given the worse prison sentence? The action was the same the intentions were the same. Shouldn't the punishment be the same?

If prison is to rehabilitate, and deter crime shouldn't both people get the same sentence.
 

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You feel you have a superior grasp on morality than most people, and to prove that, you claim that killing homeless people and touching babies in defiance of the parents' wishes is acceptable.

It is wrong to murder someone. Even if they don't have any friends or relatives. You say the homeless man doesn't feel or think after death, so it's doing him no harm. That makes no sense. The person didn't wish to die, and was in control/possession of his life which you took from him. How is this justified?

"It is wrong to murder someone."

OK those are your cut and dry words but again, I go to Nazi soldiers. They killed all those people and there was a large following of people that thought it was the RIGHT thing to do.

But let's go back to to the bum example.

No family, or friends to grieve over him. No one witnesses the killing but you because the bum has been slain. The bum no longer has any feelings, emotions, no desires to live, no NOTHING.

So where is the emotional imbalance usually caused by acts of killing?

There are none.

Can you grasp the concept of nonexistence?

You're acting like the bum is going to be looking down from heaven and being angry that you killed him or something.
 

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A better question is. If one person shoots a guy and he dies. Another person shoots a guy who lives. Why is the first person given the worse prison sentence? The action was the same the intentions were the same. Shouldn't the punishment be the same?

If prison is to rehabilitate, and deter crime shouldn't both people get the same sentence.

Intent has a lot to do with it I'm sure.
 

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Intent has a lot to do with it I'm sure.

Attempted murder is considered a lesser crime than murder. My point is if a person attempted to murder another person he should get the same punishment as a murderer. It doesn't matter if he was successful or not, the intentions were to murder.
 

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"It is wrong to murder someone."

OK those are your cut and dry words but again, I go to Nazi soldiers. They killed all those people and there was a large following of people that thought it was the RIGHT thing to do.

But let's go back to to the bum example.

No family, or friends to grieve over him. No one witnesses the killing but you because the bum has been slain. The bum no longer has any feelings, emotions, no desires to live, no NOTHING.

So where is the emotional imbalance usually caused by acts of killing?

There are none.

Can you grasp the concept of nonexistence?

You're acting like the bum is going to be looking down from heaven and being angry that you killed him or something.

Nazi officers that commanded the soldiers to carry out genocide were tried for their war crimes.

I already made it clear that I understand the bum no longer feels, thinks or exists, and argued a separate point. It's not some "emotional imbalance," it's that you took his life, which was not yours to take.
 
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