So if a man kills another man

Dooby

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Dooby, you are INSANE. PLEASE GET fukkING HELP YOU SICK fukk.

Insane is not knowing what the difference between right and wrong. I question what is right and wrong because that is very much subjective.
I have and have a firm grasp on my own personal views of what's right and wrong and I feel they're superior to most people's.

Prove me wrong and I'll admit I'm insane. Otherwise, stfu. :youngsabo:
 

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Murder is a crime against humanity, no it's not.

Murder - The unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another

For example, war. Our soldier kills an enemy soldier. It's good.

If we were to kill a soldier because of his country's politics, that's good?

Speak on it. Your point of view is too short sighted because murder isn't always seen as a crime against humanity.

And may I remind you one crime in one country is not always viewed as a crime in another. Let me give you one more example to prove my point.

The burning of the Quran had many people of that faith enraged and in their country the killing would have been justified. But not over here in the USA.

Murder is a crime against humanity. Ironic for you to call me short-sighted, when your example is even less thought-out than the original post. War? Tell me, have you studied theories on the state of nature, or the origin of war, or... anything?

Humans, in the hypothetical state of nature, according to most of the great thinkers, can not justifiably murder without reason. That is because it's a crime against humanity. Murdering someone that is threatening you, on the other hand, is self defense. In a conflict between two countries, each country is defending itself and its interests (whether the COUNTRY is justified or not), by deploying soldiers fight on its behalf. If the soldier kills another soldier, he is helping to protect his country, and obviously is protecting himself. In a war, the enemy is the enemy, and their deaths are necessitated through self-preservation.

You can say that it's inhumane, because what is humane or not isn't an objectively verifiable fact.

However, we can easily reach a consensus on murder being wrong -- a crime against humanity. Whether or not that dissuades you from perpetuating your half-assed logic and insincere beliefs, :manny:
 

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Murder is a crime against humanity. Ironic for you to call me short-sighted, when your example is even less thought-out than the original post. War? Tell me, have you studied theories on the state of nature, or the origin of war, or... anything?

Humans, in the hypothetical state of nature, according to most of the great thinkers, can not justifiably murder without reason. That is because it's a crime against humanity. Murdering someone that is threatening you, on the other hand, is self defense. In a conflict between two countries, each country is defending itself and its interests (whether the COUNTRY is justified or not), by deploying soldiers fight on its behalf. If the soldier kills another soldier, he is helping to protect his country, and obviously is protecting himself. In a war, the enemy is the enemy, and their deaths are necessitated through self-preservation.

You can say that it's inhumane, because what is humane or not isn't an objectively verifiable fact.

However, we can easily reach a consensus on murder being wrong -- a crime against humanity. Whether or not that dissuades you from perpetuating your half-assed logic and insincere beliefs, :manny:

There's a reason for everything...wtf does that have to do with anything.
 

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I was invalidating your example.

:whoa:

Let's back up here.

Murder; extermination; torture; rape; political, racial, or religious persecution and other inhumane acts reach the threshold of crimes against humanity only if they are part of a widespread or systematic practice.

I'm invalidating the base of your argument.

Blanketing "murder" as a crime against humanity is not appropriate or valid.

So attack me in another angle. That gig is up. :mjpls:
 

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:whoa:

Let's back up here.

Murder; extermination; torture; rape; political, racial, or religious persecution and other inhumane acts reach the threshold of crimes against humanity only if they are part of a widespread or systematic practice.

I'm invalidating the base of your argument.

Blanketing "murder" as a crime against humanity is not appropriate or valid.

So attack me in another angle. That gig is up. :mjpls:
Quoting Wikipedia, which was quoting an organization specifically geared towards fighting systematic human rights infringement, doesn't invalidate shyt.

You're attacking and failing to invalidate my choice of words, I'm attacking and succeeding to invalidate your argument.

Whether it's widespread, systematic, government-induced or not, murder is a crime against humanity, at the most basic level. Taking away one's life is to steal the most valuable thing they have. Each attempt you make at justifying such an act pokes another hole in your veil of "philosophical thinker" and exposes your true form as "pseudo-intellectual a$$hole."
 

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Quoting Wikipedia, which was quoting an organization specifically geared towards fighting systematic human rights infringement, doesn't invalidate shyt.

You're attacking and failing to invalidate my choice of words, I'm attacking and succeeding to invalidate your argument.

Whether it's widespread, systematic, government-induced or not, murder is a crime against humanity, at the most basic level. Taking away one's life is to steal the most valuable thing they have. Each attempt you make at justifying such an act pokes another hole in your veil of "philosophical thinker" and exposes your true form as "pseudo-intellectual a$$hole."[

And why is that?

You're trying to invalidate my entire argument by saying that it is a crime against humanity therefore it's bad. Which I just proved to you murder is not automatically considered a crime against humanity.

Personal attacks is a sign of a losing argument. :win:

So like I said, try again. That angle is done. So if you have nothing else to say besides insults...be a man and admit I bested you. :yeshrug:
 

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And why is that?

You're trying to invalidate my entire argument by saying that it is a crime against humanity therefore it's bad. Which I just proved to you murder is not automatically considered a crime against humanity.

Personal attacks is a sign of a losing argument. :win:

So like I said, try again. That angle is done. So if you have nothing else to say besides insults...be a man and admit I bested you. :yeshrug:

:why:

How about we let the people decide?

Add up all the daps you received throughout this thread, and add one dap for each star your thread has (:laugh:), then pit it against my first post.

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:why:

How about we let the people decide?

Add up all the daps you received throughout this thread, and add one dap for each star your thread has (:laugh:), then pit it against my first post.

:smugbiden:

Check out buddy, feeling himself off his daps. Just remember I'm a splendid one to behold while you're just a name known to all. Charles Manson is a name known to all. Just sayin :manny:
 
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