So Chicago Teachers Going On Strike Starting Today?

[beenz]

They have the highest salary of all teachers across the country and they work less hours. They don't deserve a raise when compared to the work of other teachers.

Average pay is 76K. That's roughly $60 per hour.

The average pay don't tell the story tho. Starting salary is in the forties and u got a bunch of old tenured teachers at the top who are maxed out in salary. Then they stay laying off the young teachers while keeping the old ones who make the bread. So most teachers in chicago ain't getting $75k.

My moms was a Chicago public school teacher for over 30 years. All I know is she had it soooooo easy her later years. Not only was she maxed out in salary, but for like her last 10 years she didn't even have a class. She was just a reading specialist. That meant she only ha 1 on 1 with a couple kids for like an hour or 2 a day. She retires in 08, in her fifties, got full pension, and took over 1 year worth of sick days out the door that they had to pay her for cash money. Talk about

I do remember her being on strike a few times in the 80s tho.

My moms is in Italy right now with my pops chillin on their 3rd or 4th vacation this year. An she got a part time job too teaching student teachers for a university out here

And......, she didn't have to pay student loans cuz CPS payed them off just for working there. Man the previous generation had it good.

 

[DaChampIsHere]

The average pay don't tell the story tho. Starting salary is in the forties and u got a bunch of old tenured teachers at the top who are maxed out in salary. Then they stay laying off the young teachers while keeping the old ones who make the bread. So most teachers in chicago ain't getting $75k.
My moms was a Chicago public school teacher for over 30 years. All I know is she had it soooooo easy her later years. Not only was she maxed out in salary, but for like her last 10 years she didn't even have a class. She was just a reading specialist. That meant she only ha 1 on 1 with a couple kids for like an hour or 2 a day. She retires in 08, in her fifties, got full pension, and took over 1 year worth of sick days out the door that they had to pay her for cash money. Talk about
I do remember her being on strike a few times in the 80s tho.

Even so, to get 40K a year, work 5.5 hours a day, and still complain is a little excessive/greedy.

I don't agree with lowering their salary if they are made to work a full 8 hours like most teachers and adults, but to make them work 8 hours at 40K is reasonable.

 

[JBoy]

Speaking of the work day. Chicago public school had the shortest day in the country. Thy only go from 9-2:30.

Our day was 8:20 to 3:30, the hell is Chicago's school time so short for?

 

[ComputersPutin]

Even so, to get 40K a year, work 5.5 hours a day, and still complain is a little excessive/greedy.

I don't agree with lowering their salary if they are made to work a full 8 hours like most teachers and adults, but to make them work 8 hours at 40K is reasonable.

In Teaching a school day doesn't determine how long they work. You think they grading papers, making test, grading reports, responding to parents and meetings, training, and coming up with a lesson plan for each class everyday during passing periods?

 

[beenz]

Even so, to get 40K a year, work 5.5 hours a day, and still complain is a little excessive/greedy.

I don't agree with lowering their salary if they are made to work a full 8 hours like most teachers and adults, but to make them work 8 hours at 40K is reasonable.

All I know is the time I went to public school in the city, as soon as the school bus dropped me off at my moms school from mines, it would be around 3pm and we were out the door!

Our day was 8:20 to 3:30, the hell is Chicago's school time so short for?

I don't know

 

[Ooh Marty]

aw great

ANother CHicago Bash Thread

Mfs need to have a stadium of seats....

 

[DaChampIsHere]

All I know is the time I went to public school in the city, as soon as the school bus dropped me off at my moms school from mines, it would be around 3pm and we were out the door!

I have never heard of school starting at 9:00 AM.

I was at school at 7, was not out until 4. Teachers still made the same +40K.

In Teaching a school day doesn't determine how long they work. You think they grading papers, making test, grading reports, responding to parents and meetings, training, and coming up with a lesson plan for each class everyday during passing periods?

Other teachers do the same amount fo work for 40K and they work FULL HOURS and they do the same extra stuff teachers in Chicago do.

These people do LESS than them for the same amount of money. I know most people on the Coli are pro-Democrat so they love the idea of the underpaid taking a stand and what not, but honestly, these mofos are lazy compared to their counterparts, but receive more. I fully understand why they want to cut their pay.

Considering that they have a lunch break, these teachers only only work around 4.5-5 hours a day.

 

[stealthbomber]

i feel bad for chicago

they got a whole generation of youngsters with little education, a rampant gang culture, and a lotta free time.

 

[j7thirty]

Cps alumni and I was in school from

8-1:30 elementary school and 8-2:42 high school I loved that 8 to 130 shyt was sweet 8-11 on half days

But this system been fukked I'm moving to china if I have a kid build that mental robot

 

[SouthernBelle]

They have the highest salary of all teachers across the country and they work less hours. They don't deserve a raise when compared to the work of other teachers.

Average pay is 76K. That's roughly $60 per hour.

I have actually been a teacher and your work day is way longer than those 7 to 8 hours that you are required to be in the building (that is if you actually want to be any good at your job). Also depending on the type of school you teach, a good portion of your salary goes back to the children that you are teaching. They come to school hungry, no school supplies, and list of other things that you end up spending your money on. That wasn't my job to take care of those kids outside of teaching, but like most teachers I did it anyway.

 

[OG_StankBrefs]

Dem teachers be havin like 45 kids in ONE fukkin classroom n shyt nowadays

It's some other fukked up shyt dey have to deal wit too doe so i really don't blame em TOO much for da strike.

 

[SouthernBelle]

I have never heard of school starting at 9:00 AM.

I was at school at 7, was not out until 4. Teachers still made the same +40K.



Other teachers do the same amount fo work for 40K and they work FULL HOURS and they do the same extra stuff teachers in Chicago do.

These people do LESS than them for the same amount of money. I know most people on the Coli are pro-Democrat so they love the idea of the underpaid taking a stand and what not, but honestly, these mofos are lazy compared to their counterparts, but receive more. I fully understand why they want to cut their pay.

Considering that they have a lunch break, these teachers only only work around 4.5-5 hours a day.

Please stop. Just because Chicago has a shorter school day that does not mean they aren't doing as much work as other teachers in other school districts (it is probably worst considering the potential behavior problems they have to deal with). This has nothing to do with being a democrat or republican. Do you know what actually happens during a teacher's lunch break? The answer is work and planning because most often it is the only time during the day that teachers in high poverty schools get to plan. I only know one Chicago teacher, but I know she works her ass off in shytty working conditions. Teaching is the only profession where people think you should take what you can get and shut up.

 

[DaChampIsHere]

I have actually been a teacher and your work day is way longer than those 7 to 8 hours that you are required to be in the building (that is if you actually want to be any good at your job). Also depending on the type of school you teach, a good portion of your salary goes back to the children that you are teaching. They come to school hungry, no school supplies, and list of other things that you end up spending your money on. That wasn't my job to take care of those kids outside of teaching, but like most teachers I did it anyway.

- People keep saying your first point as if people don't grow up with teachers their whole lives and actually see it for themselves. I know, trust. But (1)I'm sure you knew the requirements of the job beforehand, If you decide that's not the life for you and the hours are too much, you should quit, someone else will be way more passionate about it and (2) The people still only work 4.5-5 hours a day even with the probable extra hours it's still only 7-8 hours, so what do the teachers in Chicago really have to complain about? This would be like me taking the job of a shyt shoveler and then getting mad when I have to actually shovel shyt.

- Then you should take that up with the school's budgeting or their parents, not with the kids.

Teaching is the only profession where people think you should take what you can get and shut up.

That's any profession where you know what you're getting into.

Everyone grows up with a teacher. Why do people who want to be teachers act so surprised when they discover what it pays? Y'all take the jobs, find out is not all good as you thought it was, and then gripe about the pay that you knew you were getting into. place does that make sense.

I'm sure someone who works 4-5 hours, while I work 7-8 hours does just as much work. Does that even make sense to you adding in the extra work BOTH groups have to do?

 

[rapbeats]

They have the highest salary of all teachers across the country and they work less hours. They don't deserve a raise when compared to the work of other teachers.

Average pay is 76K. That's roughly $60 per hour.

well he's right about the pay cause this is two years ago.

2010-2011: the CPS gives a starting salary of $50,577 for a first-year teacher with a bachelor's degree. But that's including the seven-percent "pension pickup," which comes from the Board of Education: it's compensation, obviously, but not money teachers get right now.

Since that doesn't seem to be regularly included in the salaries quoted by news reports, it's probably better for comparison to subtract it, which can easily be done with the more detailed tables provided by CPS (PDF).

If we do that, the starting salary is $47,628. The maximum, for a teacher with 20 years' experience and a doctorate, is $88,680 ($93,817 if you include the pension pickup). The average, according to the AP, is $69,000.

now as far as the start and end times of the day. i'm getting this directly from the teachers contract that will expire in 2012.

4-6. The regular school day for elementary school teachers shall not exceed six hours
and forty-five minutes with a continuous duty-free lunch period of forty-five minutes.
Effective the 2004-2005 school year, the regular school day for elementary school
teachers shall not exceed seven hours with a continuous duty-free lunch period of fortyfive minutes. The BOARD and the UNION shall develop up to five models for
elementary and high schools for the use of the additional fifteen minutes provided for in
this Agreement. The models shall be disseminated to the schools by March 1, 2004.
The principal shall select two of the models and the staff shall vote for one of the two.
Eight minutes of instruction shall be banked for professional development for school
improvement. The principal shall determine professional development activities in
consultation with the Professional Personnel Leadership Committee. Where the dutyfree lunch period presents an administrative problem, a solution shall be worked out by
the BOARD and the UNION. The day normally shall begin at 8:30 a.m. and end at 3:15
p.m. Effective the 2004-2005 school year, the day normally shall begin at 8:30 a.m. and
end at 3:30 p.m. However, the principal (or Chief Executive Officer, if appropriate) may
change the beginning and ending times provided that he or she receives the affirmative
concurrence of the majority of classroom teachers voting.

are you saying all principles and teachers agreed to start at 9am and go home at 2:30 for all grade levels?

pre middle school yes you go in at around 8, and leave at 2:30. but the moment you step foot in middle school the good life is over. you start at around 8, to 8:15(unless your school has one of those extra periods in the morning that u dont go to everyday. and you leave at 3:15pm.

 

[FukkaPaidEmail]

Smh,teachers get no respect.

CEO's get million dollar raises for doing absoulutly nothing and nikkas don't bat a eye..Teachers strike because the gov't wants to increase their hours while reducing their pay and nikkas wanna act like they are in the wrong.