It's a deleted tweet now, so more than likely its not true.
I want Melo to go to a contender but damn man, he's leaving. That's my small forward
You gotta let him go man, he deserves better.
So a Frenchman, Latvian & Spaniard Walk Into Bar, Melo Takes All The Shots Offseason NYK Thread
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It's a deleted tweet now, so more than likely its not true.
You gotta let him go man, he deserves better.
Wargames
One Of The Last Real Ones To Do It
I hate them and the Spurs for the 90's final losses..... and the Tmac trade
But honestly as a Knicks fan I hate everyone
Cause everyone hates on me
KillSpray
Don't be mad
It just occurred to me that the THJR contract is actually a contract that might make sense for the Knicks.
First off, the Knicks are not going to be good in the next 4 years. As they've already announced, they're going "young." So the fact that you tie up $71 million dollars in a player like THJR does look excessive in a vacuum, but within context, what's the alternative? Where else do you spend the $71 to get back clear superior value as the Knicks? For this summer and the next 3 summers who are the free agent targets that the Knicks have any hope at all of signing, especially with the current Warriors situation? Even if hypothetically they can land some impact players over the next 3 summers, to what end will that be? To be a mid tier playoff team in the east like Miami?
Your three best assets are 23 and younger. Your best asset is 21. 4 years takes him right into the beginning of his prime. People try to imagine what THJR real ceiling is (20, 4, 4?), and think can it justify this deal, and realistically, that would justify the deal. But even if he stayed where he currently is, what's the worse case scenario? The knicks get 3 lottery picks over the next three years? They'll probably get at least 2 lottery picks over the span of his deal even his exceeds all expectations.
Realistically what is the Knicks primary goal right now? It's simple, re-sign Kristaps to a max deal in 2 years when his rookie deal is up. That's it! Knicks have no other realistic goals between now and then but to create an attractive situation for Kristaps to re-sign to in 2 years.
So best case scenario, THJR's deal ends when Kristaps will be 25, hopefully already re-signed to a max contract extension; Frank will be 22, hopefully developing into a nice piece; the Knicks will have been bad for 3 seasons but trending in the right direction having made 3 lottery selections, hopefully with 1 or 2 of them trending into a quality player. You go into free agency when THJR's contract is expiring with the Warriors dominance over the NBA winding down, Lebron likely retiring, with a very strong core of young players ready to attract the quality players who were drafted this year (2017) who are coming off of their rookie deals for the first time.
What's so bad about that? And if you got something negative to say about, what was the alternative that would make a CLEAR positive impact over this signing?
First off, the Knicks are not going to be good in the next 4 years. As they've already announced, they're going "young." So the fact that you tie up $71 million dollars in a player like THJR does look excessive in a vacuum, but within context, what's the alternative? Where else do you spend the $71 to get back clear superior value as the Knicks? For this summer and the next 3 summers who are the free agent targets that the Knicks have any hope at all of signing, especially with the current Warriors situation? Even if hypothetically they can land some impact players over the next 3 summers, to what end will that be? To be a mid tier playoff team in the east like Miami?
Your three best assets are 23 and younger. Your best asset is 21. 4 years takes him right into the beginning of his prime. People try to imagine what THJR real ceiling is (20, 4, 4?), and think can it justify this deal, and realistically, that would justify the deal. But even if he stayed where he currently is, what's the worse case scenario? The knicks get 3 lottery picks over the next three years? They'll probably get at least 2 lottery picks over the span of his deal even his exceeds all expectations.
Realistically what is the Knicks primary goal right now? It's simple, re-sign Kristaps to a max deal in 2 years when his rookie deal is up. That's it! Knicks have no other realistic goals between now and then but to create an attractive situation for Kristaps to re-sign to in 2 years.
So best case scenario, THJR's deal ends when Kristaps will be 25, hopefully already re-signed to a max contract extension; Frank will be 22, hopefully developing into a nice piece; the Knicks will have been bad for 3 seasons but trending in the right direction having made 3 lottery selections, hopefully with 1 or 2 of them trending into a quality player. You go into free agency when THJR's contract is expiring with the Warriors dominance over the NBA winding down, Lebron likely retiring, with a very strong core of young players ready to attract the quality players who were drafted this year (2017) who are coming off of their rookie deals for the first time.
What's so bad about that? And if you got something negative to say about, what was the alternative that would make a CLEAR positive impact over this signing?
Miles Davis
Prince of Darkness
Lebron retiring and the warriors winding down but remember there are new teams on the come right now. Timberwolves, 76ers, Bucks. It's anyone's guess how good they become but they're definitely on the up.
What's your scenario though
People love KCP but does he fit hornys system ? I'll be honest haven't seen him play much but I doubt it
Miles Davis
Prince of Darkness
I don't know, which is why I should be the new gm. Since I ain't knowledgeable about the ins and outs of the league and am the perfect fall guy
KillSpray
Don't be mad
Definitely, but when we project out that far, things feel a lot less certain.
When we look at these next 2-4 years, we probably both feel fairly certain what the top of the league looks like.
The media loves to pile on the Knicks, but honestly, that Pacer's Paul George trade was far more atrocious than this THJR signing.
@KillSpray
I agree with you, Breh.
However, I do see what the more knowledgeable brehs are seeing with respect to the other young players they would have tried to sign.
My thing is, even with that, the THJR signing has still has the two part positive of signing a nice young guy on the up tick regarding performance and we tie up cap to prevent Mills from giving Mills to the next Amare Stoudemire hoping for a doomed trip into obscurity considering the team mission statement has stated "The Yout Dem Next, Seen?"
We are about to turn NY into the City of God giving the young bloods sugary candy and a couple straps with the green light.
Timmy 'bout to be on his Lil Ze shyt
KP has already shown the suits in the exec office who's fukking running this shyt.
And Frank is about to get jumped into this shyt and he either survives getting jumped in or... He's bound to drizzown...
At the end of the day, we offered money to a player who has indicated that he low key was hoping for a call from NY b/c Phil caught that hot one as he was teasing Melo on the MSG elevator thinking Melo was getting ran out the city on some Departed shyt.
And with Melo seemingly off to escape this toxic shyt and possibly contribute to a competent roster when he looks back at the Big Apple before that flight, it's nothing but love...
Atleast we don't have Allen Crabbe, Bazemore, Shumpert, JR Smith(not because of production but because of age), Wade, or Turner...
Timmy is competitive, just like KP...they'll be bottom tier but atleast KP won't be able to argue his peers aren't TRYING to be competitive. They'll come out trying to win and everyone will be happy because its the youth movement and with draft...the pieces will fall where they will.
We can enjoy the alley oops and finally be patient as a collective.
I'm feeling good as fukk right now...
I agree with you, Breh.
However, I do see what the more knowledgeable brehs are seeing with respect to the other young players they would have tried to sign.
My thing is, even with that, the THJR signing has still has the two part positive of signing a nice young guy on the up tick regarding performance and we tie up cap to prevent Mills from giving Mills to the next Amare Stoudemire hoping for a doomed trip into obscurity considering the team mission statement has stated "The Yout Dem Next, Seen?"
We are about to turn NY into the City of God giving the young bloods sugary candy and a couple straps with the green light.
Timmy 'bout to be on his Lil Ze shyt
KP has already shown the suits in the exec office who's fukking running this shyt.
And Frank is about to get jumped into this shyt and he either survives getting jumped in or... He's bound to drizzown...
At the end of the day, we offered money to a player who has indicated that he low key was hoping for a call from NY b/c Phil caught that hot one as he was teasing Melo on the MSG elevator thinking Melo was getting ran out the city on some Departed shyt.
And with Melo seemingly off to escape this toxic shyt and possibly contribute to a competent roster when he looks back at the Big Apple before that flight, it's nothing but love...
Atleast we don't have Allen Crabbe, Bazemore, Shumpert, JR Smith(not because of production but because of age), Wade, or Turner...
Timmy is competitive, just like KP...they'll be bottom tier but atleast KP won't be able to argue his peers aren't TRYING to be competitive. They'll come out trying to win and everyone will be happy because its the youth movement and with draft...the pieces will fall where they will.
We can enjoy the alley oops and finally be patient as a collective.
I'm feeling good as fukk right now...
Miles Davis
Prince of Darkness
Slow day breh
Get yo money Baker, gonna be a bunch of bake sales this season
seemorecizzy
Superstar
Still the most confusing thread on the coli because nobody here knows what they want from the team
