SMH, So The Magic Could've Had Hordford, Teague And a 1st...These ****** :mindblown:

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The sad part is even if Orlando do draft a superstar player or two in the next 3 years, that dude is gone in like 6-8 years.
 

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Their GM has already said he wants to build through the draft like OKC, he was apart of their organization and he liked how they did it. Same with the Spurs. He wants to reach the bottom, in order to reach the top. Thats why there was no interest in Gasol or Bynum, all they were looking for was some young talent, some picks, and cap relief. They got all of those things. The Nets deal was never going to happen as long as Brook Lopez is involved. If you're a rebuilding team, you dont pay Brook max. What Atlanta had to offer was too good as well, they werent looking for star players, the GM literally wanted to start fresh from the bottom.



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Giving Lopez the max is too much, but paying Afflalo nearly $8 million a year in your eyes is somehow good for a rebuilding team.

I don't know why you dudes try to justify this shyt, I bet you were one of them cats saying the Odom/Scola/Martin/Dragic trade for Cp3 was great for the Hornets as well. The 3 teams raped the Magic, and other teams did offer better deals for a team that was trying to rebuild, the Rockets in particular.
 

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There is really no reasonable explaination for what Dwight and the Orlando front office has been doing this past year...It's all mind boggling.. Anyone that tries to defend or explain any of their actions is a fool...If I was a Magic fan I would never give them another dime of my momey.. And I rarely say that...

Dwight got what he wanted. He's in LA (they were on his short list) and he can get a max contract. Yeah he acted like a teenage girl but he got what he wanted so :manny:

Magic will likely get the top pick and a chance to build around yet another young star. Why they passed on Bynum is confusing however I am guessing he made it clear he wouldn't re-sign there. Why they took on two guys with 3 years left on their deals and neither one is a star is even more confusing. I guess they just wanted to fill Dwights salary slot without getting too much better. I'm sure Magic fans will be on board with your line of thinking until they get another star down there which they always seem to do.
 
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Giving Lopez the max is too much, but paying Afflalo nearly $8 million a year in your eyes is somehow good for a rebuilding team.

I don't know why you dudes try to justify this shyt, I bet you were one of them cats saying the Odom/Scola/Martin/Dragic trade for Cp3 was great for the Hornets as well. The 3 teams raped the Magic, and other teams did offer better deals for a team that was trying to rebuild, the Rockets in particular.
Afflalo is probably worth 8 mil a year when you look at the current crop of SG's..he's young, he can shoot, and he can defend...could average 17-18 ppg for the next 5-6 years...he does everything a SG should be able to, so I can justify that...Lopez on the other round is getting paid max money and he rebounds like a small forward..:comeon:
 

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3 straight years in the lottery for a team going into a new arena.
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They got the new arena. They got the all-star game in that arena AND got Dwight to open the place up. From that standpoint Orlando ain't stressing the arena.

The problem is in order to replicate OKC's success is you have to hit EVERY pick out the park AND draft potentially a top 3 player for the next 10 years.
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That's called a successful rebuild. We'll see if Hennigan can do that.

On the other hand, Bynum in a weak Eastern Conference where the #1 team starts Joel Anthony at center is a perennial 2nd round playoff team at worst.
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He's also about to get $102 mil to still be an "if," an "if" that wasn't even ready to commit to re-upping in Orlando, thus dealing with this mess again.

Reality is you're not winning a title in the NBA without a top 5 player in the league. There's 32 teams in the league. You just traded away the best center in the game and its doubtful you're drafting anybody in the next 3 years who will be on the level of Lebron, Durant, Howard or Westbrook. Which means at the end of the day you're probably looking at a best case scenario of perennial 2nd round playoff team only you're going to suck for 2-3 years in a bad sports town before you even get to that level.
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So other than contract, what do you propose they do? They've opted to suck til they strike gold. Unfortunately, that's how you gotta make it. Put it like this: who would you rather be: the Magic or the Rockets?
 

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Their GM has already said he wants to build through the draft like OKC, he was apart of their organization and he liked how they did it. Same with the Spurs. He wants to reach the bottom, in order to reach the top. Thats why there was no interest in Gasol or Bynum, all they were looking for was some young talent, some picks, and cap relief. They got all of those things. The Nets deal was never going to happen as long as Brook Lopez is involved. If you're a rebuilding team, you dont pay Brook max. What Atlanta had to offer was too good as well, they werent looking for star players, the GM literally wanted to start fresh from the bottom.

Why are you defending this crap?

Its apparent that foul play/pay to play happens in the NBA..No reason why Orlando trades Dwight for that sort of deal.
 

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3 straight years in the lottery for a team going into a new arena.
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The problem is in order to replicate OKC's success is you have to hit EVERY pick out the park AND draft potentially a top 3 player for the next 10 years.
:deadrose:

On the other hand, Bynum in a weak Eastern Conference where the #1 team starts Joel Anthony at center is a perennial 2nd round playoff team at worst.
:ehh:


Reality is you're not winning a title in the NBA without a top 5 player in the league. There's 32 teams in the league. You just traded away the best center in the game and its doubtful you're drafting anybody in the next 3 years who will be on the level of Lebron, Durant, Howard or Westbrook. Which means at the end of the day you're probably looking at a best case scenario of perennial 2nd round playoff team only you're going to suck for 2-3 years in a bad sports town before you even get to that level.
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hmmmm i dunno man......at first i doubted that Wiggins kid but then i started seeing some of his games.......he's like a 6'7'' 2 guard with a 6'10 wingspan that doesn't really have alot of holes in his game......and he's a very, very, explosive scorer that can defend, rebound and shoot .i'm not saying he's on those guys' level, but he can be.....

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRxaHP4f9d8"]Andrew Wiggins Absolutely DOMINATES Nike Peach Jam! Best Player In The Nation Regardless Of Class!? - YouTube[/ame]

if the magic can get him and draft the right pieces around him :sadcam: but he is going to be the 1st pick in the 2014 draft.
now i'm not saying put all your hopes into drafting one guy...because there is a 90% chance you won't get him.....but like you said the Magic need to hit the nail on the head with each draft pick.....they'll have about 2 first rounders for the next 3 years if they can manage things right.


anyways....one thing i realize about these gms is that they are the GM for a reason.....we can't knock anybodies moves until everything comes into fruition. Its gonna be a tough...tough...season for the magic....damn near every team has improved......i think they are the only team besides the suns to regress.
 

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That whole rebuilding through the draft idea is just the dumbest shyt ever. Just because it worked for OKC doesn't mean it's foolproof. :snoop:

You realize damn near every GM builds through the draft right? Even the franchise players of the Heat and Lakers were via the draft.

This dumb GM really thinks he is gonna get a Durant/Westbrook/Harden trio with rookie deals when he has a greater chance ending up with average players and overpaying the few free agents that will even consider playing for his wack ass franchise.

So what's the alternative? Fold?
 
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Why are you defending this crap?

Its apparent that foul play/pay to play happens in the NBA..No reason why Orlando trades Dwight for that sort of deal.

im not defending anything, I could care less about the Orlando Magic.. im just sayin dude is smarter than yall give him credit for...let it play out

what if Moe Harkless (lottery pick) turns out to be a really good player....?

him and Afflalo could be good pieces along with the lottery picks theyll have over the years...look at the Pau Gasol trade and how that ended up working for Memphis
 

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Never heard of this trade as an option either, but I do agree with the overall premise that ORL accepted a terrible deal when they had better options from better teams. Now they have a hole at center, no superstar to build around & very little difference making talent. Magics lost forever off this
 

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Now who else wanna fukk with Hollywood Court?
Afflalo is probably worth 8 mil a year when you look at the current crop of SG's..he's young, he can shoot, and he can defend...could average 17-18 ppg for the next 5-6 years...he does everything a SG should be able to, so I can justify that...Lopez on the other round is getting paid max money and he rebounds like a small forward..:comeon:


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You're essentially in here trying to sell Magic fans on a Honda Accord, and talking about it like it's a Bmw M3. :laugh: @ Afflalo averaging 17-18ppg until he's 33, what are you smoking?
 

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im not defending anything, I could care less about the Orlando Magic.. im just sayin dude is smarter than yall give him credit for...let it play out

what if Moe Harkless (lottery pick) turns out to be a really good player....?

him and Afflalo could be good pieces along with the lottery picks theyll have over the years...look at the Pau Gasol trade and how that ended up working for Memphis

"Smart" GM's dont trade Hall of Fame talent for "what ifs"
 

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So what's the alternative? Fold?

Why did they refuse the Houston offer if they wanted to rebuild?

From Woj twitter: HOU offered ORL $12M in space (instead of Afflalo), recent 1st picks, future lottery and unprotected picks. Would've taken bad deals and no need to take on Harrington contract.
 
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