Shouting match between Zelensky and Trump

[The_Unchosen_One]

That would be treason IMO something he's a natural at

Which is why I think it's actually happening

 

[Bunchy Carter]

Why is a forum full of Black people and are so called Pro-Black so concerned with Ukraine

 

[HiphopRelated]

Trump doing his best Neville Chamberlain impression wasn't in the bingo cards, but really should have

 

[HiphopRelated]

Why is a forum full of Black people and are so called Pro-Black so concerned with Ukraine

because when Elephants battle the ants care about the ground more than the elephants

 

[bnew]

Why is a forum full of Black people and are so called Pro-Black so concerned with Ukraine

what do you think are the geopolitical and economic ramifications of russia destroying ukraine democracy, ending their sovereignty and taking over the bread basket of the world?

edit:

https://grok.com/share/bGVnYWN5_d647cf37-1564-4d52-822b-26bc7b5b79c0

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Let’s dive into the geopolitical and economic ramifications of a hypothetical scenario where Russia destroys Ukraine’s democracy, ends its sovereignty, and takes control of what’s often called the "breadbasket of the world." This is a complex issue with far-reaching consequences, so I’ll break it down into key areas, exploring both the immediate fallout and the longer-term ripple effects. I’ll aim to be thorough, critical, and avoid just parroting conventional takes—while keeping it grounded in what we know about the region and global dynamics as of March 5, 2025.

Geopolitical Ramifications​

1. Shift in European Security Architecture
   If Russia succeeds in fully subjugating Ukraine, it would mark a seismic shift in European security. Ukraine’s position as a buffer between Russia and NATO would vanish, bringing Russian forces—and influence—right up to the borders of Poland, Slovakia, Hungary, and Romania, all NATO members. This could embolden Russia to test NATO’s resolve further, potentially targeting the Baltic states or other former Soviet territories. The 2022 invasion already prompted Finland and Sweden to abandon decades of neutrality and join NATO; a total Russian victory might push other neutral states, like Moldova or even Georgia, to seek similar protection—or fall under Moscow’s sway. NATO would likely respond by ramping up its military presence in Eastern Europe, escalating tensions and possibly locking the continent into a new Cold War-style standoff.
2. Erosion of the Rules-Based International Order
   A successful annexation of Ukraine would signal that might makes right, undermining the post-WWII norms of sovereignty and territorial integrity. This could inspire other authoritarian powers—think China with Taiwan, or even smaller regional players—to pursue territorial ambitions, arguing that the West’s inability to stop Russia proves the international system is toothless. The UN’s already shaky credibility would take another hit, especially if Russia leverages its Security Council veto to block any meaningful response. Non-aligned countries in the Global South, many of whom have stayed neutral in the current conflict, might see this as validation of their skepticism toward Western-led frameworks, further fracturing global unity.
3. Russia’s Regional Dominance and Global Leverage
   Controlling Ukraine would restore Russia’s status as a dominant power in the post-Soviet space, reversing the losses of 1991. It would gain strategic depth, access to the Black Sea (via Crimea and beyond), and a platform to project power into the Middle East and Africa. Posts on X and some analyses suggest Russia could use this victory to tighten its grip on food security, a point I’ll expand on economically. Geopolitically, this would strengthen Russia’s hand in negotiations with both adversaries and allies, potentially forcing the West to deal with Moscow on its terms—especially if energy and food become bargaining chips.
4. Impact on Alliances and Partnerships
   The U.S. and EU would face a credibility crisis. Allies like Japan, South Korea, and Australia, who’ve backed sanctions against Russia, might question the West’s ability to deter aggression, possibly driving them to hedge bets with China or pursue independent security policies. Meanwhile, Russia’s partners—China, Iran, North Korea—could deepen their alignment, forming a more cohesive anti-Western bloc. China’s reaction is key: while it might welcome a distracted West, a too-strong Russia could complicate Beijing’s own ambitions, especially if Moscow starts meddling in Central Asia, a region China views as its backyard.
5. Ukrainian Resistance and Instability
   Even if Russia “wins,” Ukraine’s democratic spirit wouldn’t just vanish. Partisan resistance, fueled by a population that’s shown fierce resolve since 2014, could turn Ukraine into a quagmire—think Afghanistan 2.0 for Russia. This would drain Moscow’s resources and keep the region unstable, potentially spilling over into neighboring states via refugees, arms flows, or radicalized fighters. The West might exploit this, funneling covert support to insurgents, further entrenching the conflict as a proxy war.

Economic Ramifications​

1. Control of the Breadbasket: Global Food Security
   Ukraine’s role as a grain powerhouse—exporting wheat, corn, and sunflower oil to Europe, Africa, and the Middle East—cannot be overstated. In 2021, its agricultural exports hit $27.8 billion, and it’s often called the breadbasket of Europe (and increasingly the world). If Russia takes over, it could monopolize this output, combining it with its own wheat exports (already a third of the global supply when paired with Ukraine’s share). This would give Moscow unprecedented leverage over food prices and availability, especially in food-insecure regions like the Horn of Africa or the Sahel, where 25 countries rely on Ukrainian and Russian grain for over a third of their imports. Russia could weaponize food as it has energy, cutting supplies to punish adversaries or reward allies, exacerbating hunger crises and sparking unrest in vulnerable states.
2. Energy Market Disruptions
   Ukraine sits on significant natural gas reserves and hosts pipelines that, while less critical since Nord Stream, still matter for Eastern Europe. Russian control could disrupt these flows, forcing Europe to scramble for alternatives—again. Oil and gas prices, already volatile since 2022, could spike further if Russia tightens its grip on regional energy infrastructure. Sanctions would likely intensify, but Russia’s ability to redirect exports to China and India (as it’s done since 2022) might cushion the blow, while Europe faces higher costs and inflation.
3. Global Economic Instability
   Markets hate uncertainty, and this scenario would deliver it in spades. A Russian victory could crash the Ukrainian hryvnia and ripple through currencies of neighboring states. Equity markets, already jittery from the 2022 invasion, might see prolonged sell-offs, especially in Europe. Posts on X highlight fears of oil price surges and food supply shocks, which could tip fragile economies into recession. Supply chains, still recovering from COVID and earlier war disruptions, would face new bottlenecks—think fertilizers, where Russia and Ukraine are key players, or shipping routes through the Black Sea.
4. Russia’s Economic Paradox
   Here’s the twist: Russia might not reap the economic windfall it expects. Sanctions have already shrunk its economy (a recession hit in 2022), and occupying Ukraine would strain its finances further—rebuilding costs, military expenses, and global isolation could outweigh gains from fertile land. Western companies’ exodus (Apple, McDonald’s, etc.) shows how self-sanctioning and reputational damage could persist, limiting Russia’s access to tech and capital needed to exploit Ukraine’s resources efficiently. China might step in, but at the cost of making Russia a junior partner, not a global powerhouse.
5. Winners and Losers
   The U.S. could benefit indirectly—higher grain prices might boost its farmers, and LNG exports to Europe would soar. But consumers everywhere would feel the pinch of inflation. Developing nations, especially in Africa and Asia, would suffer most, facing food shortages and debt crises as they compete for scarcer resources. India, a big buyer of Russian oil, might gain discounted energy but lose out if grain prices skyrocket.

Critical Takeaways​

This scenario isn’t a clean win for anyone. Russia might gain territory and resources, but it’d inherit a hostile population, a battered economy, and a world more united against it—or at least, more desperate to counterbalance it. The West would lose a democratic ally but could rally around a renewed purpose, though at huge cost. The Global South would bear the brunt of economic fallout, potentially fueling migration and extremism.

The breadbasket angle is the wildcard. Food as a geopolitical weapon could reshape alliances and power dynamics more than tanks or missiles. Yet, history shows occupying fertile land doesn’t guarantee prosperity—look at the Soviet Union’s own struggles to feed itself despite Ukraine’s riches. Russia’s gamble could backfire, turning a short-term triumph into a long-term trap.

What do you think—would Russia’s control of Ukraine’s resources outweigh the costs of global backlash and internal resistance? Or would this just accelerate a multipolar world where no one really wins?

 

[Kasgoinjail]

Why is a forum full of Black people and are so called Pro-Black so concerned with Ukraine

What do u think Black people are too docile to have an insight on Global politics and its GLOBAL ramifications

Should we be on tik tok twerking and doing hot wing challenges instead?

 

[Kasper KArr]

What do u think Black people are too docile to have an insight on Global politics and its GLOBAL ramifications

Should we be on tik tok twerking and doing hot wing challenges instead?

Shut your mouth dog fukker. fukk your thoughts

 

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Jon Cooper (@joncooper-us.bsky.social)

Seen yesterday on a public bus in Heidelberg, Germany.

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Spoiler: full text & large images

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joncooper-us.bsky.social
Seen yesterday on a public bus in Heidelberg, Germany.

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the-art-of-hobbes.bsky.social
A university town, no less. 🥹 Danke schön.

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meggies123.bsky.social


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bdbguy.bsky.social
So true!

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munbosrock.bsky.social
People of the free world are angry. The USA has put everyone in danger of WW3. It would not be evident who would win but with China, North Korea, and Russia, the USA could bring down democracy. Dictatorships rarely last because humans are meant to be free.

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penny-royaltea.bsky.social
China will be with Europe. China wants to bring the US down.

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arcstrike.bsky.social


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wokefriends.bsky.social


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pinehavenlodge.bsky.social
Don’t tease me.

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utinam.bsky.social
Was going to say the same. Why is he still breathing? He eats nothing but KFC and McDonald's for decades.

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aspectratios.bsky.social


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utinam.bsky.social
Please be careful. Trump wants an excuse to shoot protesters

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jbennett22.bsky.social
I'd pay more in taxes to see that here . . . PLEASE

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theopilis.bsky.social
AFREAKINMEN!!!

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thesugermeyer.bsky.social
Heidelberg was always beautiful. But now…das beste!

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bdbguy.bsky.social
This is awesome!!

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ww29lm.bsky.social
Priceless!!!

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piverson.bsky.social
Is that A I ??!!

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letgar62.bsky.social
I love Germany!

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capecodcritter.bsky.social
The whole free world Trump.

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nemi2009.bsky.social
Love it

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sanityrules.bsky.social
Wunderbar!

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bonkski.bsky.social
Bwahaha, great pic! You saw this already? She will love it! Slava Bonkus #ElonSucksSoHard (@bonkski.bsky.social)

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coolhand3333.bsky.social


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lonelyspoon.bsky.social
Yeah, "They love me in Europe, you know?"

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tennesseebluequeen.bsky.social
Seen Monday at Düsseldorf Karneval

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jmohamel.bsky.social
My absolute favourite german city now even better.

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kellysparkles.bsky.social
Love to see it!

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angelbeliever.bsky.social
Never saw Biden nor a diapered Biden in a float over in Europe! The float of DonOld is showing up again. DJT does not speak for the majority. 82% r for Ukraine the 18% r just for power.

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tennesseebluequeen.bsky.social
Germans know a thing or two about fascism. They also know a thing or two about Russia.

To post tweets in this format, more info here: https://www.thecoli.com/threads/tips-and-tricks-for-posting-the-coli-megathread.984734/post-52211196

 

[Kasgoinjail]

Shut your mouth dog fukker. fukk your thoughts

in ur mothers vertebrae

 

[levitate]

Trump doing his best Neville Chamberlain impression wasn't in the bingo cards, but really should have

Remember when Chris Matthews sonned that one Republican cause he didn’t even know what Chamberlain did???

 

[R=G]

 

[Mister Terrific]

Trump doing his best Neville Chamberlain impression wasn't in the bingo cards, but really should have

When the Nazis attacked Poland, Chamberlain resigned and joined the war party. I think Trump is worse

 

[Kasgoinjail]

Oh yh and for the dummies asking us foreigners why we were so invested in US elections

Can u fukkin see now why

WE remembered how he acted in 2020 and its domino effect globally.

WE are just shocked how easily so many Americans forgot

 

[MeachTheMonster]

“Dumb shyt for nothing” is trumps “Leadership” strategy

 

[CoryMack]

i know zelenskyy's ears was hot as hell lol

i watched that shyt the other night and laughed like a muthafukka. i was high, but that shyt was hilarious