Should the black community adopt arranged marriages (patriarchy)?

[EMY]

Easy answer NO.

The only thing that keeps arrange marriages together is social pressure. The same communities that have them also have shaming culture. So people live miserable lives together.

I have know so many people in arranged marriages who are unhappy but not divorced. Try talking to people in cultures that do that. A lot of them.are trying to escape that culture. You have to be naive to think it s the way to go.

Only way to institute that now would be to literally take away rights from women like most of the countries where arranged marriage is common...

Funny you act like shaming culture is a bad thing, when lack of shame is precisely what’s destroying our culture right now

 

[Amestafuu (Emeritus)]

Funny you act like shaming culture is a bad thing, when lack of shame is precisely what’s destroying our culture right now

Not in the way that makes people commit honor killings and banish their children for getting divorced. There's levels to shyt

 

[EMY]

Not in the way that makes people commit honor killings and banish their children for getting divorced. There's levels to shyt

The level of ignorance is astounding. Since when did shaming culture automatically equal honor killings and banishment?

EVERY HUMAN SOCIETY has had a concept of shaming except in the modern day, and it didn’t usually manifest in honor killings. Ignorance is killing my people, shame is literally what separates us from animals.

 

[Adeptus Astartes]

Why is it that women are treated as the victim in every scenario? Aren’t wives more likely to hit/abuse their husbands than vice versa statistically?

And I’ll ask y’all again, WHY DO YALL THINK ARRANGED MARRIAGES CANT BE CONSENSUAL?

We spoke of women because arranged marriages are being advocated itt based on the need to control women's choices. Arranged marriage is almost exclusively practiced in the very societies where violence against women is not only underreported, it is condoned.l

For the record, some arranged marriages work. I just don't think it should be mandated in any way.

 

[EMY]

We spoke of women because arranged marriages are being advocated itt based on the need to control women's choices. Arranged marriage is almost exclusively practiced in the very societies where domestic violence against women is not only underreported, it is condoned.

Do you have evidence for that? Because the actual statistics show that western supposedly “free” countries have the lowest rates of marriage in general, highest rates of divorce, higher likelihood of spousal abuse and murder, highest rates of broken homes and b*stard children, etc.

Where is the evidence that dating culture has better results than the traditional way of people being matched by their families, which humans have been doing since the dawn of civilization?

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Let’s be honest the reason so many cultures had arranged marriages was not for the benefit of a man. Because those cultures understood women don’t know how to pick good men. They don’t know how to scout or draft a good talent. This is also the reason why it’s a cultural norm for the father to give his approval before a woman gets with any man.

No that doesn't have jack shyt to do with why arraigned marriages exist.

 

[Adeptus Astartes]

Do you have evidence for that? Because the actual statistics show that western supposedly “free” countries have the lowest rates of marriage in general, highest rates of divorce, higher likelihood of spousal abuse and murder, highest rates of broken homes and b*stard children, etc.

Where is the evidence that dating culture has better results than the traditional way of people being matched by their families, which humans have been doing since the dawn of civilization?

When divorce leads to being disowned or honor killed, of course the rate will be lower. When you live somewhere like Pakistan where spousal abuse is expected, it doesn't get reported. When girls are married off as young teens, of course they are less likely to leave.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Do you have evidence for that? Because the actual statistics show that western supposedly “free” countries have the lowest rates of marriage in general, highest rates of divorce, higher likelihood of spousal abuse and murder, highest rates of broken homes and b*stard children, etc.

Where is the evidence that dating culture has better results than the traditional way of people being matched by their families, which humans have been doing since the dawn of civilization?

They absolutely do not have higher rates of spousal abuse in Western countries, in a lot of those arraigned marriage countries the husband is allowed to beat the wife every fukking day and can beat her within an inch of her life without catching charges.

There's lower rates of divorce in those countries because any woman who gets a divorce will be completely ostracized from society and find it impossible to function. She's literally imprisoned in the marriage, that doesn't somehow become a good thing. Same with extramarital sex - it's hard for sex outside of marriage to exist if 90% of women outside of prostitutes are basically kept imprisoned in their home until marriage.

If you really want to enslave half the population and take away their free will, then yes, your stats will look good. But that's a pretty bullshyt way to get there.

 

[EMY]

When divorce leads to being disowned or honor killed, of course the rate will be lower. When you live somewhere like Pakistan where spousal abuse is expected, it doesn't get reported. When girls are married off as young teens, of course they are less likely to leave.

A whole bunch of conjecture with no actual proof.

Please, name 5 countries where divorce is illegal or where women being executed for divorce is a common occurrence. I’ll wait.

Meanwhile, everything I said about broken homes, spousal murder, low marriage rate etc. in the west is backed up by WESTERN data analysis and studies. Nearly one in two children in America isn’t even born into a two parent household.

 

[EMY]

They absolutely do not have higher rates of spousal abuse in Western countries, in a lot of those arraigned marriage countries the husband is allowed to beat the wife every fukking day and can beat her within an inch of her life without catching charges.

There's lower rates of divorce in those countries because any woman who gets a divorce will be completely ostracized from society and find it impossible to function. She's literally imprisoned in the marriage, that doesn't somehow become a good thing. Same with extramarital sex - it's hard for sex outside of marriage to exist if 90% of women outside of prostitutes are basically kept imprisoned in their home until marriage.

If you really want to enslave half the population and take away their free will, then yes, your stats will look good. But that's a pretty bullshyt way to get there.

 

[EMY]

Bro how tf does this new coli layout work

 

[Adeptus Astartes]

A whole bunch of conjecture with no actual proof.

Please, name 5 countries where divorce is illegal or where women being executed for divorce is a common occurrence. I’ll wait.

Meanwhile, everything I said about broken homes, spousal murder, low marriage rate etc. in the west is backed up by WESTERN data analysis and studies. Nearly one in two children in America isn’t even born into a two parent household.

There is no legal divorce in the Philippines, and divorce is heavily penalized socially in many African, Middle Eastern, and South Asian nations.

Here are some honor killing stats from Pakistan. Yeah, there are not a massive amount, but one is too many

Honour Killing Reported Cases (2011-2020) | Punjab Police

punjabpolice.gov.pk

 

[Gloxina]

Black Community = Black Low Income area

Not many Black men or women with good jobs stay in a Low Income Area. We move to mixed neighborhood and do absolutely nothing for the Black community.

Honestly, that’s a very real point.

 

[Gloxina]

Why is it that countries that have arranged marriages are also the absolute WORST for human/women's rights?

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[Ahadi]

So… all I’m reading are a bunch of alter egos, pandering, possibly bots, obtuse individuals & that’s all fun for a laugh or two, but what’s the solution? Since this is so “bad”, I’m convinced some ppl just like dysfunction.

You need a new black community, but if you let this black community do what it’s currently doing, it’s going to shyt. Again.

New black community, new constitution, arranged marriages with special implications, center around our most productive in society.