Should men be forced to pay child support if they let the woman know in advance that they don’t want the child?

[Rum&Pineapple]

Hard on hoes is about being hard on hoes. Not every woman is a hoe. Not sure why that's hard to understand?

I’ve seen women being called hoes who weren’t necessarily hoes. But mmmk. We’ll pretend like that word isn’t used loosely on here.

 

[Neuromancer]

I’ve seen some being called hoes who weren’t necessarily hoes. But mmmk. We’ll pretend like that word isn’t used loosely on here.

I bolded some because that's what I said. Not all. It is used loosely by some to describe how they treat hoes. I'm not sure what "weren't necessarily hoes" mean. Either she's a hoe or she ain't.

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

Bottom-line: States DO NOT see men and women as 'equal classes', therefore, are under no obligation to treat them equally under the law.

You want 'equality', vote.​

 

[Neuromancer]

I think some people taking up that mantle aren’t aware of that.

But I digress

Again supposition. We can never truly know. We do know however that cats on here are on the hook for child support and it ain't just one or two.

 

[skylove4]

Do you think this is a solution?

1. The father that doesn't agree to bringing the child to term (there should be a legal agreement on this beforehand), should be able to defer child support
2. Increase taxes (it partially comes out of his pocket but in a less toxic manner that bites the bullet on double standard, we have a social safety net increased, reduced cost/free child care services for qualifying parents)
3. In the environment in which we can agree to increase taxes for these services, we will also be provided with the ability to improve education and most importantly, sex education.

4. We draw correlations with these improvements, which should suggest overall less children being born out of wedlock, so the cost of the state rearing these children financially will not even be a concern in comparison to if we just slapped this process on country that doesn't have these underpinnings, present America, for example.


I think that is a fair solution to the situation. I do not think that a woman bearing the double standard of bodily autonomy over the man should carry over to the man that wants nothing to do with the pregnancy, before the the baby is brought to term. The only reason why I would ever think to morally implicate the father is because we know the odds of the child that grows up in America without proper support, but in a hypothetical country where we can bear the costs, and in that same country, we have reduced the chance of this child being born out of wedlock, then the father should be able to opt out.

I agree with all beside your first point. Men should never have the ability to defer child support if she wants it. Kids are crazy expensive and it’s just one of those “mistakes” that you have to handle.once your but on child support don’t even let it stress you because it’s no use, they’re are taking it if you draw breath. Find away to supplement your income, which everyone should already be doing

I also think a lot of issues would be solved if paternity test were mandatory at every birth without exception.

 

[Loose]

Your cousin either doesn’t have a job or the women haven’t filed on him

Why are you niccas bringing up these silly ass points that have nothing to do with the thread

Were talking about men who are going to be on child support

They havent filed his kids are middle scboolers. Nah the silly point is that yall assume all females are actually on child support . Or would even benefit monetarily from it

 

[Neuromancer]

Bottom-line: States DO NOT see men and women as 'equal classes', therefore, are under no obligation to treat them equally under the law.

You want 'equality', vote.​

I love your takes. I have a question do you think people really want equality? Honest question.

 

[Rum&Pineapple]

I bolded some because that's what I said. Not all. It is used loosely by some to describe how they treat hoes. I'm not sure what "weren't necessarily hoes" mean. Either she's a hoe or she ain't.

Because we don’t know whether or not she is one. Some call every woman a ho. Or a bytch. But whatever. It’s really not that deep breh.

 

[The ADD]

Again supposition. We can never truly know. We do know however that cats on here are on the hook for child support and it ain't just one or two.

And only one of those chimed into thread by my count

 

[Neuromancer]

Because we don’t know whether or not she is one. Some call every woman a ho. Or a bytch. But whatever. It’s really not that deep breh.

I mean it's not but you felt the need to defend your position. Seems like it had some merit to be worth your time.

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

I love your takes. I have a question do you think people really want equality? Honest question.

No. People want 'special treatment' due to the individualistic nature of humanity.....

​

 

[2 Up 2 Down]

Yes, with a woman who could not conceive.

Irrelevant to your respective school of thought or very minute example of a man forcing his nut in a woman. Either you believe both adult figures can be equally or near equally proactive or you don't.

Apparently you don't, while I do, or at least lean towards greater proactivity falling on the person with burden of carrying, not the person who can cut a check and be a ghost.

you aren't saying anything that I didn't already. I not saying anything about forcing nut inside someone, quote where I did

 

[Rum&Pineapple]

I mean it's not but you felt the need to defend your position. Seems like it had some merit to be worth your time.

I wasn’t defending any position. I quoted the other breh because I thought it was funny

 

[NkrumahWasRight Is Wrong]

Bottom-line: States DO NOT see men and women as 'equal classes', therefore, are under no obligation to treat them equally under the law.

You want 'equality', vote.​

Which candidate of which party has run on making men and women 'equal classes'?

I've never heard this distinction being made by a someone seeking to attain office

 

[Henri Christophe]

a man intentionally leaving the child and mom behind greatly increases the chance of the child becoming an unproductive member of society.

See how important men are


See how much power we hold


Without our leadership - the kid will most likely become a worthless bum