Should men be forced to pay child support if they let the woman know in advance that they don’t want the child?

[Apollo Creed]

Any time its, "wiped clean" it's wiped clean for both parties.

As for "men don't have a way out", it is what it is. Men and women are different, so different rules apply.

Then whats wrong with the introduction of the new rule of Financial Abortion from Men?

 

[Starburst]

Yes. If you as a stupid man chose to splash up into a woman, you deal with whatever comes next, and the woman has the last say.

Why should she though?

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

You don’t have to pay child support until paternity is established.

And it don’t cost thousands of dollars to do so.

Man ordered to pay $65K in child support for kid who isn’t his

A Texas man is battling a court order that mandates he must pay tens of thousands in child support for a child whom he did not biologically father and whom he met only once. In 2003, a child suppor…

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[Buddy]

Dang this thread did numbers. Less than an hour in and it's nine pages long. Wow.

Just goes to show how much it's in the back of brehs minds

Imma need the brehs screaming 'but her health!' to stop cappin and keep it a buck. Health risks is not the ONLY reason women are having abortions and regardless of the reason, you have no say in the matter. You could offer to pay for the procedure and if she wanted to keep the baby, you have no say in the matter. Imagine a breh hollering 'But your health! '


I think you'd be a piece of shyt personally but I can't fault brehs for looking at the dynamic for what it is and thinking hold on

 

[Adeptus Astartes]

Then whats wrong with the introduction of the new rule of Financial Abortion from Men?

Because it's about taking care of your child. Once they are born, their interest takes precedence.

 

[5n0man]

Like I said in the other thread.

Most these nikkas dont actually give a fukk about abortion. They feel like if men don't have a say in the birth of a child then women shouldn't either. Men gotta take accountability for children they didn't want so they feel like women should have to do the same. If men had the option to opt out of parenthood, they wouldn't care about women aborting.

They're agreeing with this decision out of spite.

None of these nikkas actually care about aborted babies, they're just spiteful because they feel like the courts are biased towards men.

 

[DonB90]

You don’t have to pay child support until paternity is established.

Yes.
Also establishing paternity in relation to child support and establishing paternity in relations to actual decision making/timesharing are different one is initiated by the state(child support) an the other initiated through the parent(time sharing) . Two different cases two different case numbers.

And that still doesnt mean you'd see your child. It's called a time sharing agreement..if your bm doesnt agree then she can keep the child away from you until you go to court and pray they let you see YOUR OWN child...you know how much lawyer fees and filing fees are especially if you ain't got money like that? See how fukked up that is. It's never been equal. The biggest con American women have pulled is getting yall to believe that their "oppressed" and I say that in the most not incel way possible

 

[Houston911]

Just goes to show how much it's in the back of brehs minds

Imma need the brehs screaming 'but her health!' to stop cappin and keep it a buck. Health risks is not the ONLY reason women are having abortions and regardless of the reason, you have no say in the matter. You could offer to pay for the procedure and if she wanted to keep the baby, you have no say in the matter. Imagine a breh hollering 'But your health! '


I think you'd be a piece of shyt personally but I can't fault brehs for looking at the dynamic for what it is and thinking hold on

Boys keep talking about health issues. The main reason women get abortions is for the same reason men want them to - irresponsible sexual decisions

 

[The ADD]

I’ll assume anyone worry about this is avoiding the peril of the situation and this is purely for discussion

 

[NkrumahWasRight Is Wrong]

This is very rare

Most men don’t make enough money to pay heavy child support

That child support hurts the man’s pockets, but it’s not enough to have the woman comfortable

Shouldnt be possible at all

Child support should be strictly COLA based

 

[Henri Christophe]

The main reason women get abortions is for the same reason men want them to - irresponsible decisions

Facts

 

[RaspberryFitted]

So the general consensus in this thread, online, and irl is that a woman can make a serious decision for both parties w/o you having a say, but her + the government will impede any say you have..

this ruling further emphasizes that:

Remember guys personal responsibility is for men only.

I think deep down - people assume that men are more intelligent, thus we should take responsibility for our actions - especially if we claim to be leaders.

which is fine.. but society just needs to stop teaching both sexes otherwise.

 

[MJ Truth]

Of course they should be responsible. If you have a kid you should be held accountable, both sides. Especially because it is SIMPLE AS fukk to not have a child.

Dumb ass dudes need to stop sleeping unprotected with women they don’t trust or couldn’t envision raising a kid with. Laws shouldn’t be there just to protect you from your own poor decision making.

 

[RaspberryFitted]

Also, can we please omit the what about rape/medical issues arguement..

to sit here and pretend the majority women aren’t using abortions as Plan B is obtuse.

 

[5n0man]

For custody not for financial support

People say this all the time but I feel like the majority of men don't want full or split custody. They're fine having them every other weekend.

I went to family court in California and asked for 50/50 custody and got it. The only thing I'm required to pay for is his Healthcare.