Shogun (FX/Hulu) - February 2024 :ohhh:

[Json]

That's a pirate

Pirates don’t have sponsor nations paying them. They steal and attack everyone.

 

[Silver Surfer]

So what was the deal with the flash forward?

Anointing made it back to England and had descendants???

 

[Silver Surfer]

Pirates don’t have sponsor nations paying them. They steal and attack everyone.

Then why was the ship manifest that was so damning?

 

[Json]

So what was the deal with the flash forward?

Anointing made it back to England and had descendants???

That wasn‘t a flash forward, it was the dream within a dream.

 

[Json]

Then why was the ship manifest that was so damning?

Cause it showed where he had been and done that the church didn’t want the Japanese to know.

Remember they said they would show the Japanese an edited version.

 

[EzekelRAGE]

So what was the deal with the flash forward?

Anointing made it back to England and had descendants???

The flash forward was Anjin hallucinating a different life where he makes it back home. He never makes it back. If you noticed in the flash forward, he is holding Mariko's cross necklace. That's impossible because we see he dropped it in the ocean with Fuji.

Then why was the ship manifest that was so damning?

The manifast showed 1. What country he was really with and 2. All the shyt they put the christians through.
With the manifest was also the ships "true" banner/rudder or w/e belonging to england. If you remember when Anjin and his crew are first caught they use the fake rudder/banner to act like they were went some other country. They dont want the portuguese to know they are from england because everyone with the portugese will try to get them killed because the portugese told the japanese they are the only flag in Europe (for trading purposes). That's why when Anjin was first brought before Toranaga, he didnt want that first priest to translate for him because he was portugese. He was right because the preist did try to get him killed.

Remember that other pilot said you saved my life, but I found all this shyt and I got to tell the portugese about you.

 

[Silver Surfer]

The flash forward was Anjin hallucinating a different life where he makes it back home. He never makes it back. If you noticed in the flash forward, he is holding Mariko's cross necklace. That's impossible because we see he dropped it in the ocean with Fuji.

The manifast showed 1. What country he was really with and 2. All the shyt they put the christians through.
With the manifest was also the ships "true" banner/rudder or w/e belonging to england. If you remember when Anjin and his crew are first caught they use the fake rudder/banner to act like they were went some other country. They dont want the portuguese to know they are from england because everyone with the portugese will try to get them killed because the portugese told the japanese they are the only flag in Europe (for trading purposes). That's why when Anjin was first brought before Toranaga, he didnt want that first priest to translate for him because he was portugese. He was right because the preist did try to get him killed.

Remember that other pilot said you saved my life, but I found all this shyt and I got to tell the portugese about you.

Ahhhh


Got it

 

[King Static X]

Pirates don’t have sponsor nations paying them. They steal and attack everyone.

I mean, he's just a state-sponsored pirate

 

[Json]

I mean, he's just a state-sponsored pirate

pirates want lawlessness.

He’s actively trying to favor one countries‘ control over the seas.

 

[((ReFleXioN)) EteRNaL]

Didn't care much for the finale. But also feel the show was overrated in general. It was 90% political strategy. Which is cool if you're into that. But felt like it dragged too much. Especially the finale. Wanted more than just yea breh. shyt is already done. I'm gonna win. Peace.

It has some great dialogue. Some great cinematography. But overall kind felt like they ran out of Budget or some shyt. That look into the future where ishido had to back down had some horrible cgi. Just felt like they missed the mark on many aspects. Even marikos death felt anti climactic. Her relationship with anjin felt forced. Just don't think 10 episodes was enough for this story. I didn't really feel any connection to these characters at all. Great acting. Good writing. But overall this could have been so much better. I give it an 8/10 overall.

 

[jay211]

Watching the episode now and when Troy Hardy was sitting on the porch and looked over to where Mariko usually sits and sees it empty, that hit me

You saw how desperate Anjin was for connection once Mariko was dead. He practically begged Fuji to stay. She was like my prison sentence with you is over, Anjin

 

[Gizmo_Duck]

You saw how desperate Anjin was for connection once Mariko was dead. He practically begged Fuji to stay. She was like my prison sentence with your is over, Anjin

Thats crazy, him and her husband about to become best friends in the end.

 

[nyknick]

Toranaga: I keep the Anjin around cause he makes me laugh I never needed that fool.




Where's all them coli brehs that were complaining about the white savior 30 pages back?




We tried to tell yall fools to just trust the process

Yeah Anjin was always just a distraction and at most a pawn in this story.

Although in the show he gave off more savior vibes than in the book but I think that was simply because it had to be compressed into 10 episodes. I tried my best not to be the 'book guy' in this thread because they were the most fukking annoying people in GoT threads


But in the book Mariko doesn't get introduced until 25% into the book so Anjin spends much of that time getting shytted on and then rest of the book realizing how far England is behind Japan. While remaining oblivious the whole time to the game Toranaga was running to become the Shogun.

I know that the show and book are more about strategy, but I don't care. There should have been a battle.

Also, it's my opinion; you or anyone else don't have to agree

I understand where you're coming from, I was fukking heated when Rome didn't show their battle But as you say this was a different show and battle would've felt out of place. Also judging from that future imaginary scene the battle CGI looked Larrybox Series S status So I'm glad they didn't attempt to film an actual large scale battle.

 

[Dillah810]

When Yabu started giving a lists of gruesome deaths, I forgot that Yabu had a fascination with death that was revealed in ep 1. That's probably why Yabu gave Toranega the look right before the end

 

[CROM]

Yeah, once the heir removes his banner the other regents would stand down, go home, etc
they would look at Ishido going head up with Toronaga and hit the

Of course, after Toronaga puts Ishido's head on a spike the other regents would quickly submit to the gawd

Historically, Toronaga (Ieyasu) was still outnumbered at Sekigahara, even with some of the Regents being neutral. When 1 of the Regents decided to turn on Ishido (Mitsunari) and side with Ieyasu during the battle, it was a wrap.

Would’ve loved to see it play out, but this was still a beautiful finale. Near perfect series.