She looks like she belongs in ancient Egypt

[TRY GOD]

This year, Ugandans have witnessed the use of DNA tests to settle prominent public cases in the media concerning the paternity of children and of celebrities who have died. What has not been known to many people is the dispute concerning the ethnicity of the ancient Egyptians by scholars in the 20th Century. This dispute has been solved scientifically by the DNA tests conducted on the mummies of the ancient Egyptians in 2012 and 2013.

In December 2012, DNA tests were conducted on the mummies of Pharaoh Rameses III and his son, which proved that they belonged to human Y chromosome group E1b1a. This is the Y chromosome group of Sub Saharan Africans who speak Niger–Congo languages.

The disclosed Y chromosome group of the Pharaoh, at the time of releasing the report, was considered as just one of the details to make the investigation scientifically solid with facts. But its revelation caused a stir equal to the purpose of the original forensic investigation.
Another group of mummies from the Amarna period of Egyptian pharaohs were tested by DNA Tribes, an American Company which specialises in conducting DNA tests, in 2013.

The conclusion of the tests were that the mummies autosomal profiles would be most frequent in the present day populations of the African Great Lakes region and Southern Africa. Subsequent analysis of the autosomal profile of the mummy of Pharaoh Rameses III also concluded that this matched the genetic profiles of the population of the Great Lakes region as well.

It was reported in the DNA Tribe’s digest of February 2013, that the DNA match results of the ancient Egyptian Amarna royal mummies with the present day world regions reflect the population changes in Africa after the time of Rameses III .
One issue which remains unresolved is that of language. The language of ancient Egypt is classified as belonging to the Afro-Asiatic family of languages, which are spoken by people like the Somali and Amhara of Ethiopia, while the genetic profiles of the mummies match those of Niger–Congo language speakers. The most likely explanation is that some of the Niger-Congo speaking people, who were carriers of human Y chromosome E1b1a, moved into ancient Egypt along the Nile from the Sahara region as the region dried up and fused with the Afro-Asiatic speaking people, giving rise to the unique language of ancient Egypt.

However, these speakers of the Niger–Congo language went on to form the ruling class producing pharaohs for Egypt, while retaining the customs which they practiced in common with their relatives who had migrated south into the Great Lakes region as the genetic tests have shown.

THE CONNECTIONS

The strong cultural connection between the ancient Egyptians and the modern people of the Great Lakes region of Africa have long been noted for more than a century now by ethnographers (people who study ethnicity). The following examples illustrate this connection.

Female heirs. The Egyptian pharaohs, like the rulers of the Great Lakes kingdoms of East Africa, ascended to their thrones with their sisters or cousins as co-rulers. In Bunyoro and Tooro kingdoms, the sister was called the Rubuga, but is currently called the Batebe. In Buganda kingdom, she was called the Lubuga, now called Nalinya. In Buganda, this custom from antiquity of having female co-heirs is still practiced in all cultural succession events.
Royal drums. Secondly, in all the Great Lakes kingdoms, ceremonies were carried out at certain intervals to welcome the appearance of the new moon. Regalia such as the royal drums and twin objects were brought out on these occasions to pray for the wellbeing of the kingdoms as was done in the courts of the ancient Egyptian pharaohs.

Bows and arrows. Another custom of the pharaohs in common with the kings of Great Lakes kingdoms were the use of bows and arrows in the coronation ceremonies. The coronation rituals of the pharaohs were repeated in the Sed festivals of the pharaohs, a record of which has been kept by historians. A description of the bow and arrow part of the coronation section reads: “Next, the pharaoh was carried to the chapels of the gods Horus and Seth, where he was handed a bow and arrows with which he shot an arrow in each of the four directions” i.e. East, West, North and South.

In Bunyoro. An identical ceremony was enacted during the coronation of the Omukama of Bunyoro Kingdom. In his book: Abakama Ba Bunyoro Kitara, published in 1947, John William Nyakatura, a historian and a county chief of Bunyoro Kingdom, recorded the following ceremony for the new king: “Then the king was handed bows and arrows. He shot four arrows in all directions- one arrow was shot in the direction where the sun rises (Buganda and Busoga), the second one was shot in the direction where the sun sets, the third one in the southward direction (Nkore and Rwanda), the fourth one was shot in the northward direction (Bukedi and other countries). This action meant every rebel/rival who came from any of these directions would be killed with an arrow.

In Buganda. Buganda Kingdom in precolonial times also had a bow and arrow coronation ceremony as part and parcel of the enthronement rituals of the kings. In fact, the one of Buganda was deadly. A captive would be shot with an arrow by the new Kabaka to indicate that he would be vigorous in protecting his kingdom. The victim would then be killed by the king’s guards thereafter.
Musical instruments. The similarities between ancient Egypt and the Great Lakes also extended to the material culture. Scholars have noted the resemblance of the musical instrument in ancient Egypt and the kingdoms of the Great Lakes, notably the bow- harps and flutes. This fact is mentioned in the display of Ugandan bow harps at the Uganda Museum.

The plank sewn canoes on Lake Victoria used in precolonial times were bound together using vegetative materials and were assembled in a similar way to the boats used by the ancient Egyptians on the Nile. This similarity was noticed by the scholars when British rule was established in East Africa.
Civilization. In the 19th Century, explorers and anthropologists encountered the Great Lakes kingdoms and noted the unexpected sophistication of the societies in these kingdoms. It was assumed that Egyptian culture had influenced the culture of the Great Lakes region. In the actual fact, the direction of influence was the other way round. The anthropologists were observing a society similar to one out of which the ancient Egyptian civilization had emerged.

Again these just jat prove that ancient egyptian were multiracial .

WHERE IS THE SOURCE, BREH?

 

[Poitier]

People who are a mix of Afro Asiatics, Niger-Congo and Nilo-Saharans would not look Habesha.

 

[DaddyFresh]

get over it ancient egyptians were not dark butts

 

[Trajan]

http://s1.zetaboards.com/anthroscape/topic/4960555/1/

this is some forum but I can tell you for example, the sky in Somali is "khor-RAH" which means Neck of the sky god, RAH

This is from Cheikh Anta Diop's book and I can confirm the words being a speaker

Qorax......qoor-rah

1) In ancient-egyptian language "Hes" = song,sing with musical instrument / in somali language :" Hees"= song,sing with musical instrument.

2) "AAR" means "Lion" in both languages .

3) "Usha" means "Scepter" in both languages .
4)In Somali-Egyptian" Shub" means a)"pour out , " b) construction made of concrete .

5) In Somali-Egyptian languages :"Sekedseked" means " Redoubling of the building blocks ,Stacked building blocks or something else .

6) In Egyptian-Somali :
Neter/Neder (divine being) Hipo/Hibo (it means "gift" and the sound "p"it is not mainly used in Hamitic languages ): Heru/Huur (a stork) : Tuf/Tuf (spit) : Habi (the Nile)/ Habi,ᵓAbi (source of water,to drink ,give him drink ) Wabi ( a river) ; Kab/kab (shoe) brq/biriq (lightning) :"Qbb/Qaboob (cold,cool,fresh ): 'ayah/dayah (moon) ; dab/dab (fire) anka/aniga (pronoun "I" ): su,asu/usi (he) ; Ka,Kaah /Ka,Kaah (Him,the man's appearance, spirit,vital essence,) ; Xi/Ki (a such ) ; Hati,Hat/Haat,Haati (widen wings,flying birds) ; medu/muud (liquid), Hoo/Hoo (to offer ) , Gundhate ,Gunti/Gundhate ,Gunti (loincloth) ,Maanta/Maanta (today,morning ); Kaua/Kaw (standard number one ,1,first ) ; NefNefi/NefNef,Neef (respiration,breath ), (Râ,Horakhty /Râh, Horrahthy (the Sun)

In Ancient-egyptian "Râ" is the sun-god / in Somali "Qor-Rah" means the "neck of Rah ,sun-god . ( Qor= neck / Rah: sun-god) the letter " a" is pronounced with the voiceless pharyngeal fricative
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7) Egyptian Somali :Awoow /Awoow (grandfather,old man) ;



Ayeeytha/Ayeeyda (grandmother,old woman, old age )


8) In Ancient-egyptian "Hun, Hunnu" = young man ,young girl/ in Somali "Hun, Hunnu,Huunno" = young man , young girl .

9) Two Somali/Egyptian Similar Names of the Pharaonic Enthronement : Sare,Hore/Sare,Hore ( the High and the First )


10)In ancient-egyptian :Ausar =god Osiris ,ancestor of egyptians /.In Somali : Ausar,= Father Sar (AW-father ; Sar), Isir,Ausar = Ancestor , venerated in the Somali Culture in the antiquity according to a Somali Historian and linguist Diriye .

11) In Somali Language "The pyramids" means "Xabaal-Maguur" =" Stable Graves "

12) The Ancient-Egyptians named themselves "Rageedii": "The perfect men" in their language and the Somali People use still now this name "Rageedii" with the same ancient-egyptian meaning "The perfect men". For example in somali language : " U dadaal sidii Rageedii"= Make efforts as Rageedii ,the perfect men.

There are many similar words somali-egyptian ,preserved in Somali language. I just shared with you some examples above but you can find many others if you fond of the Egyptology and History .
References : "Egyptian Hieroglyphic Dictionary by Budge" ;
"Black Nations and Culture by Cheikh Anta Diop" ; "Learn Somali by Diriye Abdillahi "
Fiqi's Somali English Dictionary " by A.A Hashi 1985 .etc...

No fukking way....I've been speaking Ancient Egyptian and U.O.E.N.O it


I might have Pharoah blood for real

 

[Premeditated]

Afro Asiatics, Niger-Congo and Nilo-Saharans aren't a different race, dumbass

exactly, I dont know what his angle is.

 

[Premeditated]

get over it ancient egyptians were not dark butts

cacs stay exposing themselves

 

[Bawon Samedi]

Err....of course, that's what I was suggesting. Other haplogroups (Mainly of Caucasian and Omotic origin) were distributed by those groups to Narrow featured Horners. The main point being Cush*c is a mixed component in reality.

So then how are Cushyte speakers and Nilotic/Nilo-Saharan people the same people? Which was really the main topic for me. And there is no such thing as "Cauascian or black" haplogroups.

Just Like Somalis then... Anyway the northern Nile valley origin of E-V32 cannot be denied. K too is hypothesised to have come to the Horn from the Nilley valley with it coming from the Sinai and Fertile crecent into Egypt and then the Sudan & Horn.

No ones denying that(just like the East African origins of E1b1a can not be denied). But you should note E-V32 carriers migrated down into the horn.

Er... according that study they are 40-50% Nilo-Saharan, the rest of their ancestry is Omotic and Caucasian which is exactly what I suggested. Nilo-Saharans are a parent population to narrow featured Horners. No Bantu group carrys Nilotic at 50% rates. Max is 20% and even then, there is at least a principle BANTU Component (Cameroonians might be a good representative of it), Cush*tic seems to be a mixed component at the basic level of Omotic-Nilotic and Caucasian with roughly no principle base.

But do they around 30% according to your own link:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqWOT2m6btAGdEpjTExTRG1NU1NKRnJfd3hOeWkwdkE#gid=5

And how come Horners don't have their own alphabetical group in the link?

 

[Raptor]

This dude is copying and pasting from White supremacist forums so that his fragile mind can preserve Ancient Egyptians as looking like Habeshas

Fragile mind, when have I claimed ancient egypt you fool, it seems like your the fragile one, considering your relying on results that have been rejected by the anthro establishment.
Andl I happen to know many of those members and they do
Often have backgrounds in anthropology
These were the examined mummy's
Do they look fully Nilotid or congoid. Or nilo Saharan. Your delusional to think they are fully SSA when the pictures says otherwise.

 

[DaddyFresh]

cacs stay exposing themselves

Try again

 

[Poitier]

Well I happen to know many of those members and they do
Often have backgrounds in anthropology
These were the examined mummy's
Do they look fully Nilotid or congoid. Or nilo Saharan. Your delusional to think they are fully SSA when the pictures says otherwise.

Why do you keep using the racist term sub saharan african? Nilo-Saharan and Niger-Congo live on/above the Sahara as well fyi

And its been stated that ALL Africans were on the Nile and mixing but Nilo-Saharan were the OG population

And stop saying multiracial, we are all Black African

 

[Sinnerman]

is this thread worth a read over or nah?

 

[Bawon Samedi]

is this thread worth a read over or nah?

Nope. I wouldn't bother.

 

[Premeditated]

Try again

fukk up cac. This thread has nothing with you. Ur not black African.

 

[GetInTheTruck]

Fragile mind, when have I claimed ancient egypt you fool, it seems like your the fragile one, considering your relying on results that have been rejected by the anthro establishment.
Andl I happen to know many of those members and they do
Often have backgrounds in anthropology
These were the examined mummy's
Do they look fully Nilotid or congoid. Or nilo Saharan. Your delusional to think they are fully SSA when the pictures says otherwise.

Are those forgeries?

 

[Poitier]

Are those forgeries?

Hair dye http://books.google.com/books?id=kt...K#v=onepage&q=henna blonde hair egypt&f=false