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How many times has Shaq switched on a PNR in his career?? Lol. I can count on 1 hand

You do know they ran a 1/4 PNR when he was playing with the Lakers, that's all Stockton and Malone ran, Payton and Sam Perkins, etc. I can go on and not nan time Shaq switched on the play every time.
Shaq struggled as a P&R defender. His P&R defense in the 2004 Finals was one of the reasons they lost.
AUBURN HILLS, Mich. -- The Los Angeles Lakers' shoddy pick-and-roll defense probably will improve only when Shaquille O'Neal decides it's necessary.

Chauncey Billups and Richard Hamilton practically scored at will on the play during the first two games of the NBA Finals, usually on picks set by Ben Wallace. O'Neal has the responsibility to stop the point guard's penetration, but sometimes the superstar center doesn't feel like it.


This got exploited by teams like the Spurs, Jazz, and Kings (Bibby used to kill the Lakers) too earlier in his career. He did not like chasing stretch 5's and he would let ball handlers penetrate or shoot, he had poor recovery/hedging abilities, at his size he didn't have great mobility. Shaq protected the rim he didn't like moving.



What do y'all think the reason Iverson dropped 48 on the Lakers was? Shaq being a statue on P&R defense. :francis:
 

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Shaq struggled as a P&R defender. His P&R defense in the 2004 Finals was one of the reasons they lost.



This got exploited by teams like the Spurs, Jazz, and Kings (Bibby used to kill the Lakers) too earlier in his career. He did not like chasing stretch 5's and he would let ball handlers penetrate or shoot, he had poor recovery/hedging abilities, at his size he didn't have great mobility. Shaq protected the rim he didn't like moving.



What do y'all think the reason Iverson dropped 48 on the Lakers was? Shaq being a statue on P&R defense. :francis:



Lol, you've made my point, Shaq giving space for Kobe to go through on the PNR (as I stated) and Shaq giving space off Robinson (in ole boy example would be Looney or Bell) Shaq is either going to give space for you as a defender to go under or over Aint no switching going on every PNR. That's stupid to have Shaq switched on PNR to guard a Curry or Harden on every play when he could just show hard (which I doubt) or give space.

And you wanna put KD at the 5 and do a 1/5 - =15 high with him and Curry, ok kool, but don't miss, KD would have 3 fouls trying to guard the 94-99 Shaq within 3 minutes of the game. Shaq played in the triangle offense which the ball will always go in the post and you have to play defense for 17-22 secs in the shot clock
 

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Dray would be sitting on he bench in foul trouble 3 minutes after tip off
Dray is an All-Time defender, we saw Dennis Rodman and Ben Wallace, undersized defenders take on Shaq.

Nobody is saying Shaq wouldn't eat, it just wouldn't be to the comical degree y'all think like the nikka would average 50 a game for the series.
 

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Lol, you've made my point, Shaq giving space for Kobe to go through on the PNR (as I stated) and Shaq giving space off Robinson (in ole boy example would be Looney or Bell) Shaq is either going to give space for you as a defender to go under or over Aint no switching going on every PNR. That's stupid to have Shaq switched on PNR to guard a Curry or Harden on every play when he could just show hard (which I doubt) or give space.

And you wanna put KD at the 5, KD would have 3 fouls trying to guard the 94-99 Shaq within 3 minutes of the game. Shaq played in the triangle offense which the ball will always go in the post and you have to play defense for 17-22 secs in the shot clock
No, I didn't make your point. Shaq dropping back on the P&R and guarding nobody and barely moving is not sound defensive strategy. He is allowing penetration to the rim and letting the screen setter open for jumpers/running start to the basket. Golden State and Houston would have a field day with that shyt. It's lazy defense period.

What is this KD at the 5 shyt, KD doesn't play the 5, what you talking about?
 

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This cac defended Shaq in the Finals with the Nets and 76ers :laff:


Another white stiff put on Shaq but today's bigs are the problem


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No, I didn't make your point. Shaq dropping back on the P&R and guarding nobody and barely moving is not sound defensive strategy. He is allowing penetration to the rim and letting the screen setter open for jumpers/running start to the basket. Golden State and Houston would have a field day with that shyt. It's lazy defense period.

What is this KD at the 5 shyt, KD doesn't play the 5, what you talking about?


Bro, what you're saying has happened, did you not see A.I. shoot the ball in that clip you posted, you do know others had those open shots too like A.I. when Shaq was too lazy to defend on PNR? But what happened in the A.I. series? All that yielded 1 W for them boys and Shaq went on to win MVP in that series against a Mutumbo, so him dominating Mutumbo, you're saying Looney or Bell would stop Shaq :russ:


You can only use Shaq in a PNR, 1 time, you talking as if Shaq will be all over the court in PNR action, chasing players:russ: so Curry will have a field day, coming off Green's or Looney Picks, because he'll have open 2's (Phil is going over the picks, chasing Curry off the 3), but on the other end, wouldn't Shaq abuse these players or have them in foul trouble just like he did Mutumbo:russ:
 

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No, the whole point of fast paced offense is that bigs like Shaq would tire quickly; it's kind of difficult to run up and down the court for 48 minutes when you're 7'+ 300+ pounds. Hence point forwards.
 

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Hope he can do it in 20 minutes or less before he’s on the sidelines gassed the fukk out fiending for oxygen like synthetic dope :francis:
Imagine Shaq having to run with KD for a whole game in small ball. Hell LeBron who does nothing in life except work out can’t do that :heh:
 

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shaq was very mobile and athletic when he was young. Also the league is different now, training/conditioning is at a premium, no team would allow him to get that bad. Players who are out of shape nowadays are out of the league, nobody would let that happen to shaq
It’s not a “let”, Shaq was completely hard headed his whole life. The nikka just didn’t want to work out in that lakers stage. You right that the rules would be different tho, cause no one would even take the social media slandering that would come with allowing Shaq to just say fukk y’all training regimes year in and year out
 
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Bro, what you're saying has happened, did you not see A.I. shoot the ball in that clip you posted, you do know others had those open shots too like A.I. when Shaq was too lazy to defend on PNR? But what happened in the A.I. series? All that yielded 1 W for them boys and Shaq went on to win MVP in that series against a Mutumbo, so him dominating Mutumbo, you're saying Looney or Bell would stop Shaq :russ:


You can only use Shaq in a PNR, 1 time, you talking as if Shaq will be all over the court in PNR action, chasing players:russ: so Curry will have a field day, coming off Green's or Looney Picks, because he'll have open 2's (Phil is going over the picks, chasing Curry off the 3), but on the other end, wouldn't Shaq abuse these players or have them in foul trouble just like he did Mutumbo:russ:
Nikka A.I. happened to miss an open jumper, it was terrible defense. You think Steph missing that? That's a wide open step back three for him off the pick.

The Sixers team was nowhere near the Lakers and it was miraculous for them to even win one game. So what are you saying? Lakers lost the Finals in 2004 and Shaq's P&R defense was atrocious, video I posted is 15 minutes of Shaq defensive lapses throughout the series. We all know Shaq would get buckets so I don't know why you keep bringing that up.

No, you cannot only use Shaq in the P&R one time. Do you watch games? There's times teams re-screen 2-3 times a possession to extract the mismatch. Shaq is definitely going to have to switch the P&R or hedge and recover better, he is definitely going to have to come out and contest shots against stretch 5's. You CANNOT be lazy in P&R coverage in today's NBA. Shaq was an extremely lazy off-ball defender.
 

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After seeing AD getting hack and no calls while shooters get tick tacky touch fouls and reward flop artists. The league baby shooters. I don't see Shaq going off crazy like that in this Era.
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