Shaduer’s NFL Projection makes no sense

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If everybody can't see.....

They don't like individually thinking black men.

NFL is an indoctrination tool for the masses. Gives black boys a mirage to chase and keeps people in line for a good majority of their young life so that the indoctrination can take effect.

NBA is the same way.
The NFL doesn't like individuality at all, regardless. You have to play the game, which is why the most successful are able to play it. They definitely always want the "darling QB". And they don't have guaranteed contracts anyway, so if you want to play there, you already know to play the game.
 
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If everybody can't see.....

They don't like individually thinking black men.

NFL is an indoctrination tool for the masses. Gives black boys a mirage to chase and keeps people in line for a good majority of their young life so that the indoctrination can take effect.

NBA is the same way.


This is an insult to all the black men currently playing in the league :martin:
 

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This is an insult to all the black men currently playing in the league :martin:
This is where they're at now, shytting on all the black men that worked their asses off to make it because Sheduer bombed his draft interviews. It's so embarrassing that it's funny.
 

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I think it's the reverse with the coaching staff and the players on Shedeur. It wouldn't make sense for the coaching staff to prefer a shorter, weaker armed, less accurate, less productive QB who didn't play in a pro style offense.

I think Dillon was initially the GM trying to appease the coach and fans by drafting a QB and Stefanski pushed back when the 5th round came around. I think the GM doesn't want Stefanski to be able to prove him wrong about Deshaun and doesn't want to provide him with a potential replacement for him.

He saddled him with a QB room last year that forced him to play Deshaun because Jameis is a known turnover machine and Dorian Thompson was known to not be able to throw past 10 yards. He was going to saddle him with the same scenario this season with a QB room where only Flacco can potentially complete a pass beyond 10 yards because we know Pickett can't and Dillon has a noted weak arm. I think it's similar to RG3 being the GM pick and Kirk Cousins being the coach's pick where the GM did a "here you go" with Dillon and Stefanski wasn't having it. In the video of the pick he definitely looks more pleased than the GM does in that video.

If Stefanski makes it work with Shedeur in ANY way the GM has to have a come to Jesus talk with everyone about figuring out how to navigate that guaranteed contract and potentially his job is on the line if Stefanski makes it work without Deshaun.
Your theory makes no sense whatsoever because the Watson move came directly the owner by his own admission and not the GM. When you pay Watson a fully guaranteed deal, of course you're going to have less cap space to go after a decent QB. That's also downplaying the fact that you had even posters on this site saying that Jameis would run with it and take over as starter.

Your theory also doesn't make any sense because if this shyt goes bust this season, both the GM and the HC are getting fired and all those QBs are getting replaced.
 

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Your theory makes no sense whatsoever because the Watson move came directly the owner by his own admission and not the GM. When you pay Watson a fully guaranteed deal, of course you're going to have less cap space to go after a decent QB. That's also downplaying the fact that you had even posters on this site saying that Jameis would run with it and take over as starter.

Your theory also doesn't make any sense because if this shyt goes bust this season, both the GM and the HC are getting fired and all those QBs are getting replaced.

First. Posters on this site ain't me. Jameis has been a walking turnover since FSU. If you want to search my posts on him go ahead. I definitely said he had a turnover problem while he was in college.

Second. The HC is not getting fired if there's reasonable success which is possible with only two QBs on that roster. A rejuvenated Flacco OR a college QB who has a proven track record of raising the floor of a team vs Kenny Pickett

Third. You're contradicting yourself. IF the owner truly was responsible for the Deshaun choice and this team goes bust them the GM will get grace. You can't claim the owner made the choice and then have a final conclusion that the GM will take the fall for a choice that wasn't his.....do you want to try this one again?

We can agree to disagree, but don't respond to me saying something doesn't make sense then proceed to step on your own point by including the GM, who didn't hire the coach NOR apparently made the decision on Deshaun, as a fall guy for this season.
 

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First. Posters on this site ain't me. Jameis has been a walking turnover since FSU. If you want to search my posts on him go ahead. I definitely said he had a turnover problem while he was in college.

Second. The HC is not getting fired if there's reasonable success which is possible with only two QBs on that roster. A rejuvenated Flacco OR a college QB who has a proven track record of raising the floor of a team vs Kenny Pickett

Third. You're contradicting yourself. IF the owner truly was responsible for the Deshaun choice and this team goes bust them the GM will get grace. You can't claim the owner made the choice and then have a final conclusion that the GM will take the fall for a choice that wasn't his.....do you want to try this one again?

We can agree to disagree, but don't respond to me saying something doesn't make sense then proceed to step on your own point by including the GM, who didn't hire the coach NOR apparently made the decision on Deshaun, as a fall guy for this season.
Yes I can because there's years worth of ineptitude ownership from Jimmy Haslam and the Browns organization. Jimmy Haslam is going to make the final call at the end of the day like he's done many times before. There's a reason why this NFLPA survey put both the coach and owner of the Browns at the bottom of the list compared to other organizations.

It was worst possible situation and organization that Shedeur could have ended up end as he's stuck behind 4 other QBs and literally have a GM and coach that's fighting to save their job. We know how they things end up playing out.


Not to mention they have the Jags first round pick and theoretically have the ammunition to move up in the draft for a QB with a higher ceiling if they really want to do so.
 

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First. Posters on this site ain't me. Jameis has been a walking turnover since FSU. If you want to search my posts on him go ahead. I definitely said he had a turnover problem while he was in college.

Second. The HC is not getting fired if there's reasonable success which is possible with only two QBs on that roster. A rejuvenated Flacco OR a college QB who has a proven track record of raising the floor of a team vs Kenny Pickett

Third. You're contradicting yourself. IF the owner truly was responsible for the Deshaun choice and this team goes bust them the GM will get grace. You can't claim the owner made the choice and then have a final conclusion that the GM will take the fall for a choice that wasn't his.....do you want to try this one again?

We can agree to disagree, but don't respond to me saying something doesn't make sense then proceed to step on your own point by including the GM, who didn't hire the coach NOR apparently made the decision on Deshaun, as a fall guy for this season.


Doesn't the owner have the final approval on contracts and trades???
 

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Doesn't owner have the final approval on contracts and trades???
He's literally giving Haslam the benefit of a doubt that he'll do right by the HC and GM just because he admitted the Watson situation was on him like we don't have years worth of Brown's ineptitude and QB wasteland to go by :mjlol:
 

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I think it's the reverse with the coaching staff and the players on Shedeur. It wouldn't make sense for the coaching staff to prefer a shorter, weaker armed, less accurate, less productive QB who didn't play in a pro style offense.

I think Dillon was initially the GM trying to appease the coach and fans by drafting a QB and Stefanski pushed back when the 5th round came around. I think the GM doesn't want Stefanski to be able to prove him wrong about Deshaun and doesn't want to provide him with a potential replacement for him.

He saddled him with a QB room last year that forced him to play Deshaun because Jameis is a known turnover machine and Dorian Thompson was known to not be able to throw past 10 yards. He was going to saddle him with the same scenario this season with a QB room where only Flacco can potentially complete a pass beyond 10 yards because we know Pickett can't and Dillon has a noted weak arm. I think it's similar to RG3 being the GM pick and Kirk Cousins being the coach's pick where the GM did a "here you go" with Dillon and Stefanski wasn't having it. In the video of the pick he definitely looks more pleased than the GM does in that video.

If Stefanski makes it work with Shedeur in ANY way the GM has to have a come to Jesus talk with everyone about figuring out how to navigate that guaranteed contract and potentially his job is on the line if Stefanski makes it work without Deshaun.
Gabriel throws the ball faster than josh Allen he doesn’t have a weak arm lmao Hes completion percentage was lower because he threw the ball deeper on average than sheduer. 55% of sheduer passes were within 5 yards
 

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Gabriel throws the ball faster than josh Allen he doesn’t have a weak arm lmao Hes completion percentage was lower because he threw the ball deeper on average than sheduer. 55% of sheduer passes were within 5 yards

I know you're biased about this whole conversation, but you don't have to take my opinion solely on this. The listed weaknesses from TWO different sites. Don't say not true shyt. Josh Allen has a fukking cannon. Gabriel is NOWHERE near that. He has a weak arm.


  • Vast majority of 2024 targets were inside of 10 yards, including 25% behind the line, per PFF.
  • Ball placement and accuracy isn’t as good as it looks on paper.
  • Lacks arm strength to lead receivers on deep shots off play-action.
  • Deep-out and deep-seam throws lose their energy.


Gabriel is a physically limited quarterback. His arm talent/strength are average at best. When windows are tightened by the defensive coverage, the ability to drive passes decreases. Gabriel will not be a fit for a vertical passing offense in the NFL.
 

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d, ‘respect no one but my daddy’ ass kids. It will work wonders when they’re running Well Off Media :banderas: But for football?! Yea fukk off. :heh: If I’m the coach get that know it all noodle arm kid out of my lockerroom
The caping for this brat from the same group of people who slandered LeBron for getting his son drafted at 47 in a weak ass draft boggles the mind. Dude essentially embodies every negative stereotype we think of cac QBs from the lack of athleticism and overt nepotism down to the arrogance, entitlement and MAGA shyt.

But because he has a beloved father/grifter and has a personality we think is the peak of black masculinity, he's suddenly the modern day Jackie Robinson in a league currently being dominated by black QBs.

When are cats finally going to hold Prime accountable for him bombing this entire draft process he had 23 years to prepare him for?
 
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