Serious topic: Why does God allow Satan/demons to roam the earth and mess with humans?

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Because man loves satan more than God. It is why you have to seek him for yourself. The good book says most will not repent. The good book says the road (to life) is narrow and broad is the gate to hell.
 

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God also said to Adam that you may eat of the trees of the garden, but to avoid the tree of knowledge of good and evil

that can be taken as the tree of good and evil or simple as the tree of "knowledge"

an easier way of considering this is you are not born with knowledge but you acquire it anyways, the tree of life sustains you but the tree of knowledge puts you further from God (whence you came)

so in essence the more you know the more you become tied down by your own knowledge, to me it is easier to say God knows but I do not and I am at peace with that.

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So leave knowledge to the priests, talented tenth, and the leaders of Ayn Rand's Atlas Shrugged.
Babies who need constant care, lest they touch hot stoves.

Seems a failed experiment.
I like to know.
As closest to truth, and facts as possible.
Acceptance is another matter.

Seems foolish to live a life like ants or mere animals of the field.
 
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So leave knowledge to the priests, talented tenth, and the leaders of Ayn Rand's Atlas Shrugged.
Babies who need constant care, lest they touch hot stoves.

Seems a failed experiment.
I like to know.
As closest to truth, and facts as possible.
Acceptance is another matter.

Seems foolish to live a life like ants or mere animals of the field.

but in a strange irony, its the other way around

Jeremiah 7:16-23

16 Therefore pray not thou for this people, neither lift up cry nor prayer for them, neither make intercession to me: for I will not hear thee.

17 Seest thou not what they do in the cities of Judah and in the streets of Jerusalem?

18 The children gather wood, and the fathers kindle the fire, and the women knead their dough, to make cakes to the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto other gods, that they may provoke me to anger.

19 Do they provoke me to anger? saith the Lord: do they not provoke themselves to the confusion of their own faces?

20 Therefore thus saith the Lord God; Behold, mine anger and my fury shall be poured out upon this place, upon man, and upon beast, and upon the trees of the field, and upon the fruit of the ground; and it shall burn, and shall not be quenched.

21 Thus saith the Lord of hosts, the God of Israel; Put your burnt offerings unto your sacrifices, and eat flesh.

22 For I spake not unto your fathers, nor commanded them in the day that I brought them out of the land of Egypt, concerning burnt offerings or sacrifices:

23 But this thing commanded I them, saying, Obey my voice, and I will be your God, and ye shall be my people: and walk ye in all the ways that I have commanded you, that it may be well unto you.

when people think they are "discerning the unseen" they are more often than not eating of animal patterns. So yes, the pursuit of knowledge will make you like an ant or a beast of the field where you cannot discern between your left and right hand and are beholden to queens that you did not know.

if your pretext to existence is the pursuit of knowledge then that is what it will be, but if your pretext is to love God (YHWH) with all your heart and soul then that is what it will be.
 
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but in a strange irony, its the other way around

Jeremiah 7:16-23



when people think they are "discerning the unseen" they are more often than not eating of animal patterns. So yes, the pursuit of knowledge will make you like an ant or a beast of the field where you cannot discern between your left and right hand and are beholden to queens that you did not know.

if your pretext to existence is the pursuit of knowledge then that is what it will be, but if your pretext is to love God (YHWH) with all your heart and soul then that is what it will be.

I was once watching a interview with movado the reggae guy at his house.
He built an indoor waterfall/fountain thing.
In it was a statue of a mermaid.
He was super proud.

I fully understand the power of women, especially ancient ones.

In the past few days we have seen that Monae singer girl expose her breasts and CAPTIVATE millions of men
Who gave her massive sexual energy
And women

That is the knowledge I refer to
Powers of suggestion/sex/casting etc etc

I started to pay attention to pictures, dream catchers, statues, and especially tattoos on women who in porn
If you pay attention in these videos a lot of the women have specific images they are broadcasting
A lot of owl, snake, spider etc tattoos

Just as the businesses advertising on billboards/commercials etc
If folks were aware of that knowledge
They would be less likely to accidentally get into things they do not want to
Or suggested/compelled
 

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I feel like it’s part of the temptations we have in life. Naturally, I’m a nice, honest, and caring person but I feel like I have demons in me that persuade me to do evil things. Last week I was battling them crazy I was scared but I’m going to try and get an exorcism and reach out to an archdioceses because this shyt is getting stronger and extremely hard to control, even w a bible on me for protection. I wish I was making this up but I know it’s real because it has the ability to mess w people around me. I miss the old me, I’m being perpetually tortured and there’s only so much I can do on my own. But I think it’s from me getting into new age methods and overall messing w my spirit. God’s got me though
Yep. When you open the door you don’t know what will walk through.

I’ve been there.

Pray everyday. Strengthen your spirit and your belief. Stuff can really mess with you when you’re spiritually weak.
 

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I was once watching a interview with movado the reggae guy at his house.
He built an indoor waterfall/fountain thing.
In it was a statue of a mermaid.
He was super proud.

I fully understand the power of women, especially ancient ones.

In the past few days we have seen that Monae singer girl expose her breasts and CAPTIVATE millions of men
Who gave her massive sexual energy
And women

That is the knowledge I refer to
Powers of suggestion/sex/casting etc etc

I started to pay attention to pictures, dream catchers, statues, and especially tattoos on women who in porn
If you pay attention in these videos a lot of the women have specific images they are broadcasting
A lot of owl, snake, spider etc tattoos

Just as the businesses advertising on billboards/commercials etc
If folks were aware of that knowledge
They would be less likely to accidentally get into things they do not want to
Or suggested/compelled
im a fan of movado actually specially this song :banderas:



see this post and the ones below it so that you can understand and hopefully free yourself from the womans pattern. I dont hate the woman, in fact I love women. But they are not my God.

and yes i have knowledge of numbers
 

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im a fan of movado actually specially this song :banderas:



see this post and the ones below it so that you can understand and hopefully free yourself from the womans pattern. I dont hate the woman, in fact I love women. But they are not my God.

and yes i have knowledge of numbers


You must be fully aware Movado is not singing about "God" right?
Especially considering us discussing a human sized mermaid statue in his house.
Sitting on a rock.

Women are powerful. Jezebel knew if she painted herself and looked sexy, she might have been spared.
Such is power of beauty.
Speaking of Jezebel, her sins were great.
The weakness of men I would argue is greater.

My whole point of this whole thing is exactly a person like Movado
Or many of the other "singers and players of instruments"
That the knowledge they have, or practices for riches etc
Most are unaware of

Again I am speaking from a theoretical google type perspective
Nothing concrete

There is power in numbers also though
 
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I was once watching a interview with movado the reggae guy at his house.
He built an indoor waterfall/fountain thing.
In it was a statue of a mermaid.
He was super proud.

I fully understand the power of women, especially ancient ones.

In the past few days we have seen that Monae singer girl expose her breasts and CAPTIVATE millions of men
Who gave her massive sexual energy
And women

That is the knowledge I refer to
Powers of suggestion/sex/casting etc etc

I started to pay attention to pictures, dream catchers, statues, and especially tattoos on women who in porn
If you pay attention in these videos a lot of the women have specific images they are broadcasting
A lot of owl, snake, spider etc tattoos

Just as the businesses advertising on billboards/commercials etc
If folks were aware of that knowledge
They would be less likely to accidentally get into things they do not want to
Or suggested/compelled
Yep!
But that requires being raised by ppl who have understanding and can guide children away from those influences.

Part of the reason all those secret societies are created. Knowledge is kept from majority of the population, and then it’s eventually used on them (us)
 

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You must be fully aware Movado is not singing about "God" right?
Especially considering us discussing a human sized mermaid statue in his house.
Sitting on a rock.

Women are powerful. Jezebel knew if she painted herself and looked sexy, she might have been spared.
Such is power of beauty.
Speaking of Jezebel, her sins were great.
The weakness of men I would argue is greater.

My whole point of this whole thing is exactly a person like Movado
Or many of the other "singers and players of instruments"
That the knowledge they have, or practices for riches etc
Most are unaware of

Again I am speaking from a theoretical google type perspective
Nothing concrete

There is power in numbers also though
ill still say "jehovah guide meeeee!" :noah:

as far as the mermaid statue, that is his problem not mine. Im not building the statues any time soon. I still let my daughter watch little mermaid but ill also take her to church. Cant live in fear, just live in love and understanding instead
 

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Op ask a rational question… his fellow Christians chastise and attack him for asking question…
Tell him he is doing what the devil wants him to in being rational and should go back to not thinking with your brain and just trust and believe in same book where God gives orders to rape women , take land, women and children, kill , and enslave … Just believe…wow… he talks about demons on earth and people want to be smart asses as if there aren’t mass murders every fukking day.. children being molested, raped and killed, natural disasters, people still being enslaved in places in the world today and that is not considered pure evil in the context of what should be considered as demonic in the Bible…


Good job Op for using your brain. You can continue to believe in your religion. But don’t let anyone chastise you for just asking a fukking rational question . That’s just crazy. And don’t follow any religion that tells you not to use your brain. That’s called a cult. A bad one. And the stories are not real. We were all Christian’s op at one time. Study history and you will realize it’s all bullshyt. But even if you say “fukk what he talking about, Christianity is still what I believe”… I still applaud you for having the balls to ask a question. That group think stuff is bullshyt and the chastise and name calling I thought wasn’t what you were supposed to do. So your fellow Christian’s have been a bunch of hypocrites in this thread
 
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Yep!
But that requires being raised by ppl who have understanding and can guide children away from those influences.

Part of the reason all those secret societies are created. Knowledge is kept from majority of the population, and then it’s eventually used on them (us)

From my understanding, that which does not come from "God". As in natural and earned.
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Shortcuts whether through groups or ceremony

You WILL owe
So it can be bad to come from such a family

My desire is to see one million lawyers, a million doctors, a million scientists, a million writers, etc etc etc
That is how humanity travels the stars in 200 years.

What we have now is small amounts of folks, as you said, using the majority.

Now if you view the majority as ants, or things, then it is more comfortable.
Seeing wars, hunger, disease.

I do not care much if a car runs over a squirrel on my street. Walk right by it.
Same concept.
 

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Op ask a rational question… his fellow Christians chastise and attack him for asking question…
Tell him he is doing what the devil wants him to in being rational and should go back to not thinking with your brain and just trust and believe in same book where God gives orders to rape women , take land, women and children, kill , and enslave … Just believe…wow… he talks about demons on earth and people want to be smart asses as if there aren’t mass murders every fukking day.. children being molested, raped and killed, natural disasters, people still being enslaved in places in the world today and that is not considered pure evil in the context of what should be considered as demonic in the Bible…


Good job Op for using your brain. You can continue to believe in your religion. But don’t let anyone chastise you for just asking a fukking rational question . That’s just crazy. And don’t follow any religion that tells you not to use your brain. That’s called a cult. A bad one. And the stories are not real. We were all Christian’s op at one time. Study history and you will realize it’s all bullshyt. But even if you say fukk what he talking about, Christianity is still what I believe… I still applaud you for having the balls to ask a question. That group think stuff is bullshyt and the chastise and name calling I thought wasn’t what you were supposed to do. So your fellow Christian’s have been a bunch of hypocrites in this thread
:patrice:how do you "disbelieve" the stories but still believe in Christianity? and why do you think OP is being ganged up on by "all christians"?
 

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ill still say "jehovah guide meeeee!" :noah:

as far as the mermaid statue, that is his problem not mine. Im not building the statues any time soon. I still let my daughter watch little mermaid but ill also take her to church. Cant live in fear, just live in love and understanding instead

The problem with such circles that those guys exist in, is that you could be an Angel.
What will happen though is that so many of the folks you exposed to are into crazy stuff.

That you would consider it foolish to not also get rings and do ceremonies.

Again, I keep a wiiiiiiiiide distance from any such peoples and activities.
And since one is entirely unaware of who is who, it is even worse.

I would not dare say no wild shyt about their worshippings.
Gone too far already anyway.
 
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