Sean "Diddy" Combs Arrested in NYC by the Feds

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A very good team and Diddy can beat a lot of what they're trialling him for but again depends on the evidence the feds get. He's definitely getting a sentence but a solid team can get it low compared to what he really could be seeing.

Jury selection will be key! This shyt is all over the place as it is.
 

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It's crazy, one day you are flying private jets to anywhere in the world, eating the best food, living in multi-millionaire mansions to be locked up in small jail cell:to:



He deserves it, all his artists got fukked over:camby:
 

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The Feds are still trying to get more info from the devices. And they still haven't handed over what they have to the defense so they can properly prepare. Just because the Feds bring a case against someone, doesn't automatically render a guilty verdict. Irv and Chris would just be getting out of prison if that were the case.

Nah.

Two different things. The Feds didn't have any evidence against Irv and Chris personally. They couldn't find anything. They had money wires they tracked back to the company, and brought in the brothers because they owned the company. That was a money laundering case, that was attached to an actual FBI case against Supreme and his heroin business. Because Irv was offering Preme jobs to work at the label and helped to get his movie off the ground, they accused him of trying to wash dirty money because his man was a legendary drug dealer.

Irv won because Preme told the Feds that he never took cash from Irv and Chris. He said his street business was separate from anything that he did with Irv for the music. There were also no witnesses that could speak to anything that was in the accusation. They were going after Preme, and pulled Irv and them into it, but Preme was the primary target.

In Puff's case, HE'S the primary target, and there's mad witnesses and evidence against him, because for some reason, the n*gga is an archivist. He actually keeps the sh*t he's done wrong on record. Also, the people that work for him don’t like him. So they're more than willing to testify against him and corroborate the evidence. So Puff's situation is NOTHING like Irv's. Irv had people around him that actually had his back and kept him away from the street sh*t. They were smart. Puff is running his own show and keeping the evidence around and still trying to tamper with the people who agreed to talk. He's an idiot.
 
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Nah.

Two different things. The Feds didn't have any evidence against Irv and Chris personally. They couldn't find anything. They had money wires they tracked back to the company, and brought in the brothers because they owned the company. That was a money laundering case, that was attached to an actual FBI case against Supreme and his heroin business. Because Irv was offering Preme jobs to work at the label and helped to get his movie off the ground, they accused him of trying to wash dirty money because his man was a legendary drug dealer.

Irv won because Preme told the Feds that he never took cash from Irv and Chris. He said his street business was separate from anything that he did with Irv for the music. There were also no witnesses that could speak to anything that was in the accusation. They were going after Preme, and pulled Irv and them into it, but Preme was the primary target.

In Puff's case, HE'S the primary target, and there's mad witnesses and evidence against him, because for some reason, the n*gga is an archivist. He actually keeps the sh*t he's done wrong on record. Also, the people that work for him don’t like him. So they're more than willing to testify against him and corroborate the evidence. Sp Puff's situation is NOTHING like Irv's. Irv had people around him that actually had his back and kept him away from the street sh*t. They were smart. Puff is running his own show and keeping the evidence around and still trying to tamper with the people who agreed to talk. He's an idiot.

Yeah, Puff basically snitched on himself keeping so much evidence. Why keep so many old phones etc. they will go through each one finding all type of shyt. It will be interesting to see who his team brings to the stand to back Puff.
 

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Yeah, Puff basically snitched on himself keeping so much evidence. Why keep so many old phones etc. they will go through each one finding all type of shyt. It will be interesting to see who his team brings to the stand to back Puff.

They're saying he kept all that sh*t to blackmail other people. To have leverage over them.

It's wild that the same sh*t he was trying to use, came back to be used against HIM. Karma is a MF.

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Sometimes the feds overreach. Especially in the 'hot shot' districts, like Eastern District of NYC and Southern District. The prosecutors overreached on the Supreme/Irv Gotti thing. They missed and they lost. But, that was 20 years ago. The US Attorney isn't there, the line prosecutors are already retired probably or moved on. You can't just use "the feds" like it's the same guys from 20 yers ago.

And for sure, they are not necessarily overreaching here....but they are dunking the ball a little bit. They are sending a message. And look at Damian Williams resume. Dude is from Brooklyn. He has been listening to a following Puff like all of us have, his whole life and career. You can see in that press conference he disgusted by him.

at least one of the reason why Puff kept all those phones, is one sexual pleasure, probably, and two, he never never thought he would face a RICO indictment for this....all the other shyt he dodged. This was light to him.
 

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Nah.

Two different things. The Feds didn't have any evidence against Irv and Chris personally. They couldn't find anything. They had money wires they tracked back to the company, and brought in the brothers because they owned the company. That was a money laundering case, that was attached to an actual FBI case against Supreme and his heroin business. Because Irv was offering Preme jobs to work at the label and helped to get his movie off the ground, they accused him of trying to wash dirty money because his man was a legendary drug dealer.

Irv won because Preme told the Feds that he never took cash from Irv and Chris. He said his street business was separate from anything that he did with Irv for the music. There were also no witnesses that could speak to anything that was in the accusation. They were going after Preme, and pulled Irv and them into it, but Preme was the primary target.

In Puff's case, HE'S the primary target, and there's mad witnesses and evidence against him, because for some reason, the n*gga is an archivist. He actually keeps the sh*t he's done wrong on record. Also, the people that work for him don’t like him. So they're more than willing to testify against him and corroborate the evidence. So Puff's situation is NOTHING like Irv's. Irv had people around him that actually had his back and kept him away from the street sh*t. They were smart. Puff is running his own show and keeping the evidence around and still trying to tamper with the people who agreed to talk. He's an idiot.

I'm not talking about the specifics of both cases. What I'm referring to is people saying he's guilty based on the feds statement. Someone said.. (paraphrasing)look what the feds said they have against him. They have volumes of evidence, and this, and that. So the case must be a slam dunk....

Obviously the feds are going to say that. They're bringing an indictment against him. Whenever they bring an indictment they're going to say we've done an extensive investigation and so and so is guilty and we're going to prove it without a shadow of a doubt. If you look at the language in Irv's indictment...


You would've thought they had him by the balls.
 
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I'm not talking about the specifics of both cases. What I'm referring to is people saying he's guilty based on the feds statement. Someone said (paraphrasing)look what the feds said they have against him. They have volumes of evidence, and this and that. So the case must be a slam dunk....Obviously the feds are going to say that. They're bringing an indictment against him. Whenever they bring an indictment they're going to say we've done an extensive investigation and so and so is guilty and we're going to prove it without a shadow of a doubt. If you look at the language in Irv's indictment. You would've thought they had him by the balls.

Nah, with Irv's case, they actually told him to take a deal and do a couple years.

They knew they didn't have anything on dude. They offered him 2-3 years. They just wanted to bring down everybody that was connected to Preme. But had nothing on Irv. They didn't want him to go to trial. Which is why he did. Today, these dudes have MAD evidence on Puff, and countless witnesses. He's cooked.

So bringing up that case is really apples and oranges. Puff wishes he had a case like Irv's. They're gonna try to bury Puff. He did it to himself.
 

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Anyone doubting the strength of the indictment, just read it. Read that and the motion for detention.

There is no doubt, an indictment is just a story. A framing of a version of the truth supported by facts. I have read thousands. Or at least 1000. Some are stronger than others. but saying the indictment is weak....why? It's not. It's solid.

When an indictment is weak, you have to read it over and over and over again to grasp where the crime is. Or how they will prove it. You want a weak indictment? Read the Greg Craig indictment. Obama era White House Counsel for FARA violations. He went to trial in like 3 months and walked. You'll read in 10X and still not understand where the crime is.
 
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