Scientist on Reddit claims to have dissected Aliens - Even Reddit Nerds think he's either telling the truth or the GOAT bullshytter

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breh i thought u was pullin out burners for poosay?

now you listen to tranny lovers from outer space?

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You would be incorrect. A wise man doesnt throw the baby out with the placenta. And even the placenta has nutrients.



Of all the knowledge,his knowledge was the greatest weve seen from any black leader of any era imo. God uses people for his own will,you better remember that:ufdup:
 

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The term gaslightight existed well before the time of twitter finger feminists.

Again too many negroes in this country whose world view is exclusively based on online interaction

That seems to be your issue not mines.
 

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Neither the Dogon nor any other civilization, ancient or current, have 'convincing alien stories' unless you don't apply Occam's Razor and believe the likes of Zechariah Sitchin, Eric Von Däniken, Graham Hancock, or Edgar Cayce.​

Why wouldn’t people believe them?
 

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There is literally no one, anywhere, who ever reported seeing or being abducted by "grays" before those shows aired. How did the image enter pop culture "based on reality", if no one in reality had ever seen such a thing before pop culture made it a thing?

I don't think most of the follow-up stories are copying the 1960s shows. I think they're copying Betty and Barney Hill and other following images, which are widespread.

Where are these supposed "remote parts of the world" where they saw grays without being influenced by TV or eager UFOologists?
It is my understanding that the Gray image didn't reach widespread appeal until "The Communion" by Whitley Streiber in 1987

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There was this fascinating story out of the Ariel School in Zimbabwe. Some beings supposedly came down from the sky and made themselves known to dozens of school children. The children described them in a similar way as people describe greys, but the children (apparently) did not know enough about the world to call them aliens, or even what aliens were in the first place. They described them as small, strange men with big eyes. I timestamped a picture one of the kids drew, but you can watch the video for context if you are interested


 

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Neither the Dogon nor any other civilization, ancient or current, have 'convincing alien stories' unless you don't apply Occam's Razor and believe the likes of Zechariah Sitchin, Eric Von Däniken, Graham Hancock, or Edgar Cayce.​

Yes they did. The Dogon knew about the solar system and Sirius Star system with in depth knowledge. They stated beings came down and taught man. The same beings that is worshipped in Ancient Babylon and by the Pope in the Roman Catholic Church. The dagan.

Graham Hancock never speaks about aliens but lost ancient civilizations and how advance they were.

Edgar Cayce i never follow his work. Zechariah Stichin just stated what the Sumerians wrote in their text. You can actually read it on one of the college websites.
 

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Yes they did. The Dogon knew about the solar system and Sirius Star system with in depth knowledge.
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http://www.michaelsheiser.com/PaleoBabble/Grialle Sirius Dogon.pdf

It wasn't the whole tribe, just one old, blind dude, and his information was.....:duck:

Graham Hancock never speaks about aliens but lost ancient civilizations and how advance they were.

I agree, but that's the problem. He's twisting science in order to make money, not to garner genuine interest in the subjects. On top of everything else, he's basically regurgitating 19th Century, racist, pseudoscience. That's where ALL that 'Ancient Advanced Civilization' stuff comes from.

Google Ignatius Donnelly.​
Zechariah Stichin just stated what the Sumerians wrote in their text. You can actually read it on one of the college websites.
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Zechariah Sitchin couldn't even read Sumerian....

 

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Zechariah Sitchin couldn't even read Sumerian....



You still not explaining what the Dogon Sumerians and Babylon worshipped or explained? Can you Explain it. You can deny all you want but the evidence is there bro. The shyt is not far fetched when you think about it.

There is two plasuible possiblities:

Civilizations were smarter and had tech we dont have such as the pyramids being the same measurements as the speed of light and needing a satellite or spaceship to measure the exact center of the earth or Aliens were here with mankind.
 

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You still not explaining what the Dogon Sumerians and Babylon worshipped or explained? Can you Explain it.
That's what the links are for. You don't have to 'take my word for it'.

Scholars can tell you, themselves.

And, if you doubt the scholars, the Sumerians, themselves, will tell you....


 

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The concept of the ufo shape

The "flying saucer" shape was popularized by the Kenneth Arnold sighting on June 24, 1947. Before that, supposed alien spacecraft were very rarely described with anything like that shape. In the weeks after that extremely highly publicized sighting, hundreds of people claimed to see that exact shape, and it remained the most famous UFO shape for a couple generations and the shape used in all the most famous UFO photo hoaxes. Amusingly, now that drones seem to account for most UFO sightings and none of the drones are saucer-shaped, suddenly flying saucers have fallen out of favor.

Because, you know, a saucer is actually a really dumb and inefficient shape for a flying craft for numerous reasons.



similar alien likenesses have definately predated 1960.

Name any not from fiction. Grays were occasional in fiction before 1960, but they usually didn't even represent aliens. They never showed up in "true" stories until the 1960s.

This is every reference to grays from the wikipedia article:

1891: Novel Meda: A Tale of the Future. Purely fictional.
1893: Novel A Man of the Year Million. Purely fictional and depicting an advanced human, not an alien.
1895: Novel The Time Machine. Purely fictional and depicting an advanced human, not an alien.
1917: Aleister Crowley's "Lam", a drug-fueled séance vision, not an alien.
1933: Novel The Unknown Danger. Purely fictional.
1962: Twilight Zone TV episode "Hocus Pocus and Frisby". Purely fictional.
1964: Outer Limits TV Episode "The Bellero Shield". Purely fictional.

That's SEVEN uses of gray aliens with big bald heads and big eyes in fiction before the first use in "real life". It's obvious why the motif was picked - when we try to imagine what an alien would look like, we trend towards the most extreme forms of humans we know - copying features of infants, or copying features of old people. The baldness, the oversized heads, the oversized eyes, the small mouths and noses, the small frail bodies, those are all just exaggerated versions of people at the very beginning or the very end of life. It's a natural way for fiction to go. Took 70 years of fiction before it broke into "abduction stories."

Name one example of a "real life" alien matching the grays that come before all those fictional representations. You won't.



You are agressively anti this whole topic lol

Especially when the majority are atleast admitting there are some interesting developments that arent easily explainable. Yet we are also cool with definitive proof of things being faked. But your complete one sided lack of nuance towards it is suspicious, especially when you're also a religious guy. Meaning you have a vested interested in this topic not being true.

This is the silliest ad hominem. I believe in alien life and always have. None of my religious beliefs have any problem with aliens at all. I just think there's zero evidence they've visited us.

I counter made-up alien stories with the same energy and for the same reason I counter made-up 9/11 crap, Hebrew Israelites, Flat Earthers, QANON, mass shooting "false flag" claims, and all the other conspiracy theories on here. Because they're not true. If you've ever seen my posting history, you'll know I bring that same energy to all my debunking of false narratives
 

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Interesting that in 1918 Aleister Crowley drew a sketch of a being he was in contact with as an occultist and his best friend was Jack Parsons from JPL.

That's some wild distortion via omission there. Jack Parsons was just 4 years old in 1918 and didn't meet Crowley until over 20 years later. He started doing his rocket experiments as a teenager and founded the Guggenheim Aeronautical Laboratory, while later would become the Jet Propulsion Laboratory, before he ever met Crowley.



What are the odds, really? A man linked with what looks like aliens kicks it with another engaged in building rocket engines for NASA spaceships

More wild distortion. Jack Parsons never had anything to do with spaceships, he was a rocket experimenter. He was kicked out of JPL in 1944, a good fourteen years before the first spaceship was built. And Parsons never worked for NASA, the Jet Propulsion Laboratory didn't even become part of NASA until six years after Parsons died. And Parsons left JPL just a couple years after he met Crowley.

A drug and sex addict who made up his own religion and the practice of "anal sex magic spells" became friends with an early rocket experimenter. What is the "odds" there? They're just two random people.
 

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This chapter takes a look at the extent to which one of the most controversial of all the modern new religious movements—namely Scientology—is influenced by Crowley's works. It explores the link between Crowley and L. Ron Hubbard, the founder of Scientology. It reveals that Crowley and Hubbard had a common friend, John W. Parsons, the lodge master of the only operating OTO lodge during the Second World War. Although Hubbard and Parsons were only friends for a short time, the links to Crowley give important information on both the origins of Scientology and the American spirituality during the 1950s.


His boyhood interest in magic and the supernatural only grew stronger as he delved further into rocket science. That same year, Parsons turned his Orange Avenue estate into a bohemian haven, renting rooms out to artists, occultists, and dropouts galore.

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With access to CalTech’s resources and equipment, the trio formed the GALCIT Rocket Research Group. Thus, the blueprint for NASA’s Jet Propulsion Lab was born. What resulted was a bachelor pad for rocket pioneers.

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While working with GALCIT by day, Parsons studied chemistry at USC by night. On the other hand, the wild rocket scientist was falling further into his obsession with Thelema. By 1939 he was enraptured with Aleister Crowley’s revival of what began as a sixteenth-century philosophy. Thelema was by this time a sprawling esoteric movement, incorporating ancient Egyptian deities, sex rituals, and a range of Eastern and Western mysticism. Eventually, Parsons was forced to choose between his new religious craze or pursuing his degree at USC. Ultimately, Parsons dropped out of school and chose to dedicate himself to Thelema, becoming a member of the local California chapter: the Ordo Templis Orientis.




If you truly want to speak read deeply into this from various sources instead of just net hopping and calling that research please.
 

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If he did he would never tell....... fear of what might happen is too real........ the process would have already started down the path to his doom by calling him crazy and discrediting his person and sanity with the claims he is making
 

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Abstract

This chapter takes a look at the extent to which one of the most controversial of all the modern new religious movements—namely Scientology—is influenced by Crowley's works. It explores the link between Crowley and L. Ron Hubbard, the founder of Scientology. It reveals that Crowley and Hubbard had a common friend, John W. Parsons, the lodge master of the only operating OTO lodge during the Second World War. Although Hubbard and Parsons were only friends for a short time, the links to Crowley give important information on both the origins of Scientology and the American spirituality during the 1950s.



How is this helping your case? Do I misunderstand what you are trying to prove? :dahell:


Crowley was a wacko sex and drug addict with racist/fascist tendencies who called himself a prophet and tried to copy old religions to get people to follow him.

Parsons was an early rocket experimenter before he met Crowley, who was forced out when he started following Crowley. He never had anything to do with space.

Hubbard was a GOAT grifter who told people you could get rich making up your own religion, then made up the goofiest shyt ever.



Why do you think any of this helps the "aliens" case? Grifters involved with wacko religions got to know each other, and....?
 
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