Russia's Invasion of Ukraine (Official Thread)

Cuban Pete

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so essentially theres no middle class, filthy rich or fuking poor

Exactly, the little middle class there was literally all just left to Istanbul or Europe proper, some even tryna come up through Mexico. So now all thats left is a bellicose Putinist underclass, being ruled over by Oligarchs and cronies in his camp. All the Navalny supporters are gone or in hiding. If you ever watched DBZ, Russia went from Super Buu (Soviets) to just Majin Buu (pre-Ukraine invasion) to Kid Buu. Theyre weaker than ever but theyre more dangerous than ever cause theyre not fukking rational, I have no doubt in my mind that Putin would blow up half of Europe if NATO marched on Moscow and thats why Im pro de-escalation. We could probably engage them in a conventional war in Ukraine, the Baltics or Poland if they invaded, beat them, and push them back without a nuclear holocaust. But any attempt to do them like Sadaam or Gaddafi and its a wrap for humanity. But if sanctions couldnt take out North Korea Iran and Venezuela they wont remove Vlad from power. So were stuck in this new Cold War for a while.
 

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the nato excuse was always that, an excuse to get the useful idiots in the west to have a talking point that the west caused russia to have to invade and commit these war crimes because putin only does the right thing. they want ukraine's valuable territory and that's it. because if the logic is you don't want nato on your border then you don't try to take ukraine and then get even closer to nato's borders. now through finland nato will be on their northwest flank.
 

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the nato excuse was always that, an excuse to get the useful idiots in the west to have a talking point that the west caused russia to have to invade and commit these war crimes because putin only does the right thing. they want ukraine's valuable territory and that's it. because if the logic is you don't want nato on your border then you don't try to take ukraine and then get even closer to nato's borders. now through finland nato will be on their northwest flank.
You aren't going to hear anyone bring this up though. It will be quietly glossed over.
 

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the nato excuse was always that, an excuse to get the useful idiots in the west to have a talking point that the west caused russia to have to invade and commit these war crimes because putin only does the right thing. they want ukraine's valuable territory and that's it. because if the logic is you don't want nato on your border then you don't try to take ukraine and then get even closer to nato's borders. now through finland nato will be on their northwest flank.

Your idea would be right under the assumption that Russia annexes Ukraine. So far, that hasn't been the case, nor does it seem it will be. They're straight up not even trying to "annex" the breakaway regions - they just want them independent from mainland Ukraine. The goal is to leave Ukraine as a buffer. Not to take it over nor to let NATO take it over. Basically, the same agenda that they've been on since the fall of the Soviet Union.
 

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Your idea would be right under the assumption that Russia annexes Ukraine. So far, that hasn't been the case, nor does it seem it will be. They're straight up not even trying to "annex" the breakaway regions - they just want them independent from mainland Ukraine. The goal is to leave Ukraine as a buffer. Not to take it over nor to let NATO take it over. Basically, the same agenda that they've been on since the fall of the Soviet Union.
my idea isn't that they wanted to annex ukraine, what i said was that they always just wanted the most valuable parts of ukraine: the ports in the south and gas fields in the east. talk of nato was just for their useful idiots to have some justification however flimsy to argue with. they don't care about being surrounded by nato because that's gonna happen anyway, this invasion will result in NATO being right outside st petersburg (250 miles to be exact). taking ukraine's ability to compete with them on the natural gas market and making it yours was the goal, that's why they don't care about destroying the country because what they care about is underground.
 

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Your idea would be right under the assumption that Russia annexes Ukraine. So far, that hasn't been the case, nor does it seem it will be. They're straight up not even trying to "annex" the breakaway regions - they just want them independent from mainland Ukraine. The goal is to leave Ukraine as a buffer. Not to take it over nor to let NATO take it over. Basically, the same agenda that they've been on since the fall of the Soviet Union.

you're bugging.
Putin absolutely wanted to annex all of Ukraine until he realized he couldn't.
i dunno even know what the fukk he's doing with this new column of armored vehicles. :skip:
Putin straight up sacrificing Ivans left, right and center.

UK is sending Harpoon anti ship missiles :huhldup:

Punit bout to lose his Black Sea fleet :banderas:

i bet covid is burning through the ranks as well and the officers are like :yeshrug:

and Ukraine hasn't even been fully tooled up yet :ohlawd:
 
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