Russia's Invasion of Ukraine (Official Thread)

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AyBrehHam Linkin said:
hitler came to power because the economy and quality of life in his country was so fukked in his country due to punishments after WW1 that the german people looked to anyone as a savior :yeshrug:

this has led to dictators and authoritarian figures coming to power throughout history.
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We are not dealing with a democratic Russia, we are dealing with an authoritarian Russia for damn near 20 years right now. A Russia that has attempted to or successfully assassinated those they have been threatened by. A Russia that has been financially supporting anti-democratic and far-right groups in various countries, including our own. This not the goddamn Weimar Republic, this is a dictatorship.
 
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And while we're at it, I find all this talk about Putin being crazy or having syphillis or Parkinsons kinda funny. It's the same line that's always trot out whenever a country's leader counters American interests. Castro? Crazy. Gaddafi? Insane. Saddam? Lunatic. The Kims? Nutty. Khomeini? Psycho. Lumumba? Deranged. Chavez? Maniac. Seems like sanity is directly correlated to the willingness to be subordinate to American interests.

There are many rational reasons why Putin, the definitionally precarious leader of a kleptocratic oligarchy with internal power struggles ruling over a country with water/climate concerns and a potentially waning strangehold on their economically prized European gas domination and a buffer state neighbour increasingly leaning towards joining a military alliance with a hegemonic enemy, would make this move. It was a gamble, the odds of which paying off are looking increasingly diminished due to the heroism of Ukrainians, but it wasn't particularly irrational. By all metrics the Gulf War (so say nothing of the Iraq War) was a far more irrational venture than Putin's invasion. But for some reason American leadership never gets the tag of irrationality. That's only reserved for foreigners, usually darker ones. Edward Said rolling over in his grave.

Putin's nationalistic aspirations of Russian growth and relevance are diametrically opposed by American interests, hence CIA supporting Pro-Western forces during Euromaidan, which Putin viewed as a massive antagonism. Those same Pro-Western Ukrainians going so hard in the paint is what's making this whole thing go t*ts up for Putin. All respect to them. Russian imperialists should fukk off. But the idea that NATO is a completely benign and democratic defensive organization and not an extension of the American Military Industrial Complex running an international protection racket in exchange for social and economic dominance over member nations is naive as hell. It's rational for Putin to feel threatened by the prospect of Ukraine joining NATO. *cue some smoothbrained idiot drooling about how this is a defense of Russian imperialism*

An American education is really an exercise is solipsism, as seen by the hysterics in here of posters ridiculously trying to appeal to the timing and sensitivity of Ukrainians fighting for their country as reasons why posters on a message board completely removed from the conflict cannot engage in nuanced discourse. Idiocy.
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This nikka was sleep during Trump's 4 years :deadrose:
 
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num123 said:
We are not dealing with a democratic Russia, we are dealing with an authoritarian Russia for damn near 20 years right now. A Russia that has attempted to or successfully assassinated those they have been threatened by. A Russia that has been financially supporting anti-democratic and far-right groups in various countries, including our own. This not the goddamn Weimar Republic, this is a dictatorship.
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this has happened throughout history to ALL TYPES of governments who have lost wars :dead:
 
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You bytch made spineless incompetent lame.
I'm no tough guy but I would slap the shyt out of you offline. So be cordial or don't say anything.
 
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AyBrehHam Linkin said:
nikka you are talking about punishments DURING the war and my original point was AFTER the war:mjlol:.

Just stop talking bro, you misunderstood you're good.
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Are you remedial?:why:

You are the one that started this shyt about us putting sanctions on a country that is a dictatorship RIGHT NOW could cause another dictator to rise al a Hitler during the democratic Weimar Republic. What happened back then cant be compared to now.
 
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Are you remedial?:why:

You are the one that started this shyt about us putting sanctions on a country that is a dictatorship RIGHT NOW could cause another dictator to rise al a Hitler during the democratic Weimar Republic. What happened back then cant be compared to now.
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nikka point out when I said SANCTIONS are a bad idea you delusional mf.


smack yo self when you dont find it lmfao.

Do you know what exactly a sanction is?
 
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