Russia's Invasion of Ukraine (Official Thread)

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The fact thousands were on the street DAY 1 protesting this war (knowing they'd be beat and put in prison) and that the first wave of troops were :ld: about assaulting ukrainians says pretty clearly a good number of russian might believe their propaganda, but they don't believe in this war.

Putin will put the blame on the west, he can destroy Ukraine and say "the west did this" like he's Roman Reigns heel character. But when troops die over a war they don't believe in and the country's economy goes to absolute shyt over the same conflict, I don't think there's any propaganda nor state control that can deal with that level of civil unrest.

Revolutions happen over the most simple shyt. Your pockets hurting and your children/relatives dying is not something that can be justified with "fear of the other" in this particular case. It might be in 5-10 years if the world lets Russia rot in isolation though, that I agree could be a very dangerous consequence of this war.
and this is why my bet is that he will try to avoid civilian casualties badly and every single casualty will be blamed on the west supplying weapons etc...

as long as its not large scale best believe putin will make up stories about hero soldiers dying at the hands of nazis. the question like youve said if people can see through the bs
 

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And while we're at it, I find all this talk about Putin being crazy or having syphillis or Parkinsons kinda funny. It's the same line that's always trot out whenever a country's leader counters American interests. Castro? Crazy. Gaddafi? Insane. Saddam? Lunatic. The Kims? Nutty. Khomeini? Psycho. Lumumba? Deranged. Chavez? Maniac. Seems like sanity is directly correlated to the willingness to be subordinate to American interests.

There are many rational reasons why Putin, the definitionally precarious leader of a kleptocratic oligarchy with internal power struggles ruling over a country with water/climate concerns and a potentially waning strangehold on their economically prized European gas domination and a buffer state neighbour increasingly leaning towards joining a military alliance with a hegemonic enemy, would make this move. It was a gamble, the odds of which paying off are looking increasingly diminished due to the heroism of Ukrainians, but it wasn't particularly irrational. By all metrics the Gulf War (so say nothing of the Iraq War) was a far more irrational venture than Putin's invasion. But for some reason American leadership never gets the tag of irrationality. That's only reserved for foreigners, usually darker ones. Edward Said rolling over in his grave.

Putin's nationalistic aspirations of Russian growth and relevance are diametrically opposed by American interests, hence CIA supporting Pro-Western forces during Euromaidan, which Putin viewed as a massive antagonism. Those same Pro-Western Ukrainians going so hard in the paint is what's making this whole thing go t*ts up for Putin. All respect to them. Russian imperialists should fukk off. But the idea that NATO is a completely benign and democratic defensive organization and not an extension of the American Military Industrial Complex running an international protection racket in exchange for social and economic dominance over member nations is naive as hell. It's rational for Putin to feel threatened by the prospect of Ukraine joining NATO. *cue some smoothbrained idiot drooling about how this is a defense of Russian imperialism*

An American education is really an exercise is solipsism, as seen by the hysterics in here of posters ridiculously trying to appeal to the timing and sensitivity of Ukrainians fighting for their country as reasons why posters on a message board completely removed from the conflict cannot engage in nuanced discourse. Idiocy.
 

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And while we're at it, I find all this talk about Putin being crazy or having syphillis or Parkinsons kinda funny. It's the same line that's always trot out whenever a country's leader counters American interests. Castro? Crazy. Gaddafi? Insane. Saddam? Lunatic. The Kims? Nutty. Khomeini? Psycho. Lumumba? Deranged. Chavez? Maniac. Seems like sanity is directly correlated to the willingness to be subordinate to American interests.

There are many rational reasons why Putin, the definitionally precarious leader of a kleptocratic oligarchy with internal power struggles ruling over a country with water/climate concerns and a potentially waning strangehold on their economically prized European gas domination and a buffer state neighbour increasingly leaning towards joining a military alliance with a hegemonic enemy, would make this move. It was a gamble, the odds of which paying off are looking increasingly diminished due to the heroism of Ukrainians, but it wasn't particularly irrational. By all metrics the Gulf War (so say nothing of the Iraq War) was a far more irrational venture than Putin's invasion. But for some reason American leadership never gets the tag of irrationality. That's only reserved for foreigners, usually darker ones. Edward Said rolling over in his grave.

Putin's nationalistic aspirations of Russian growth and relevance are diametrically opposed by American interests, hence CIA supporting Pro-Western forces during Euromaidan, which Putin viewed as a massive antagonism. Those same Pro-Western Ukrainians going so hard in the paint is what's making this whole thing go t*ts up for Putin. All respect to them. Russian imperialists should fukk off. But the idea that NATO is a completely benign and democratic defensive organization and not an extension of the American Military Industrial Complex running an international protection racket in exchange for social and economic dominance over member nations is naive as hell. It's rational for Putin to feel threatened by the prospect of Ukraine joining NATO. *cue some smoothbrained idiot drooling about how this is a defense of Russian imperialism*

An American education is really an exercise is solipsism, as seen by the hysterics in here of posters ridiculously trying to appeal to the timing and sensitivity of Ukrainians fighting for their country as reasons why posters on a message board completely removed from the conflict cannot engage in nuanced discourse. Idiocy.
Epitome of useless mental masturbation babble . Putin is a crazed egomaniac, end of story
 

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Why don't u ever see democrats doing what Rubio is doing. It gives his voters a sense that he actually has info and power.


Man aint no one worried about what lil bytch ass Marco Rubio doing.......most of his own party dont even fukk with him like that and he cant even make it thru a speech without a water break:pachaha::pachaha::pachaha:

 

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And while we're at it, I find all this talk about Putin being crazy or having syphillis or Parkinsons kinda funny. It's the same line that's always trot out whenever a country's leader counters American interests. Castro? Crazy. Gaddafi? Insane. Saddam? Lunatic. The Kims? Nutty. Khomeini? Psycho. Lumumba? Deranged. Chavez? Maniac. Seems like sanity is directly correlated to the willingness to be subordinate to American interests.

There are many rational reasons why Putin, the definitionally precarious leader of a kleptocratic oligarchy with internal power struggles ruling over a country with water/climate concerns and a potentially waning strangehold on their economically prized European gas domination and a buffer state neighbour increasingly leaning towards joining a military alliance with a hegemonic enemy, would make this move. It was a gamble, the odds of which paying off are looking increasingly diminished due to the heroism of Ukrainians, but it wasn't particularly irrational. By all metrics the Gulf War (so say nothing of the Iraq War) was a far more irrational venture than Putin's invasion. But for some reason American leadership never gets the tag of irrationality. That's only reserved for foreigners, usually darker ones. Edward Said rolling over in his grave.

Putin's nationalistic aspirations of Russian growth and relevance are diametrically opposed by American interests, hence CIA supporting Pro-Western forces during Euromaidan, which Putin viewed as a massive antagonism. Those same Pro-Western Ukrainians going so hard in the paint is what's making this whole thing go t*ts up for Putin. All respect to them. Russian imperialists should fukk off. But the idea that NATO is a completely benign and democratic defensive organization and not an extension of the American Military Industrial Complex running an international protection racket in exchange for social and economic dominance over member nations is naive as hell. It's rational for Putin to feel threatened by the prospect of Ukraine joining NATO. *cue some smoothbrained idiot drooling about how this is a defense of Russian imperialism*

An American education is really an exercise is solipsism, as seen by the hysterics in here of posters ridiculously trying to appeal to the timing and sensitivity of Ukrainians fighting for their country as reasons why posters on a message board completely removed from the conflict cannot engage in nuanced discourse. Idiocy.
bro. the gulf war made sense.

I can't take what you're saying seriously after that.
 

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Neg this dummy every chance you get... i said pretty much "prayers" in another thread and he had a problem with that. He's a Pro-Putin Trumper..
You're embarrassing yourself. I have no affiliation with either one of your western colonial masters party.
You're just a bytch with hurt feelings over a fictional character.
 

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In times of trouble, the US is the beacon whose light has helped the rest of us see.
:usure: Breh this is Reaganite claptrap. The rest of the world doesn't give a fukk about the US other than the ability to get some milk from the teat. America is like the rich kid who everyone sucks up to so they can use their pool. Them people fighting in Ukraine wouldn't be talking about no beacon of light if the US didn't hold the pursestrings. See how Zelensky started talking spicy when the US told him to hold his own nuts and began the sweet talk when the arms started coming in? This is international politics, strictly business.
 
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