Russia's Invasion of Ukraine (Official Thread)

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That excuse is bullshyt.

His issues is he never recognised Ukrainian sovereignty. Neither does he recognise the sovereignty of the Baltic states.

It's also interesting that he lobbied Trump to cripple NATO and attack the UN and the EU.

He was always going to invade Ukraine.

that's kinda what I meant breh. he never respected it.

And Trump needs to shut his retarded ass up.
 

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We gotta stop assuming breh is bluffing though

Read what' he's saying. He's making hollow threats in re: Sweden/Finland and NATO. They haven't joined NATO since it started, so they're not going to join now. Frankly, they don't need to.

Threatening people for something they're never going to do in the first place is classic bytch behavior.
 

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This entire Ukranian thing is about a Russian border country being a NATO platform. If Finland joins NATO then the Ukranian offensive is literally pointless.

yeah, Pute's in his feelings but it's definitely obvious he never respected the leadership in Ukraine and the establishment of the country itself.

Exact reason why you can't have dictators as well.
 

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So best case scenario, Zelensky govt promises neutrality from NATO and the attacks stop and Kiev can foster a balanced relationship between East and West. Worst case scenario, Ukraine is decapitated with only the western portion of the country left as a runt state.

The more I think about it tho, annexing territory might not be the end game because that won’t change the reality that NATO is on the Russian border. For Moscow, making Ukraine non-NATO, keeping Finland/Sweden non-NATO, and creating distance between themselves and the West is probably the most ideal goal.

On the other hand, the question of NATO’s existence has been answered by Putin’s actions. It’s a very interesting situation, NATO expansion was viewed as threatening in post Soviet Russia, but NATO expanded because post Soviet Russia was still seen as a threat, because it was still seen as a threat post Soviet Russia never truly warmed to NATO/US, NATO purpose was reinforced by Putin’s actions in places like the Caucuses, Putin/Russian fears don’t go away as NATO reaches its doorstep anyway, all it took to bring confrontation that close was support for the Maidan movement which then started the clock for this conflict.

Very entangled situation
 

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That excuse is bullshyt. Why would NATO attack a nuclear power? That's MAD acronymically and literally.

His issue is he never recognised Ukrainian sovereignty. Neither does he recognise the sovereignty of the Baltic states.

It's also interesting that he lobbied Trump to cripple NATO and attack the UN and the EU.

He was always going to invade Ukraine.



Right, he almost got Trump to withdraw thousands of troops from Europe:mjlol:



It's obvious that Trump works for Putin :lolbron:
 

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This entire Ukranian thing is about a Russian border country being a NATO platform. If Finland joins NATO then the Ukranian offensive is literally pointless.

That’s the most interesting angle to watch in all this. That would actually bring things very close to the brink because that doesn’t just represent a new NATO country on its border but that all but turns the Baltic Sea into a NATO lake. None of which Putin is going for.

Finland/Sweden are good enough militarily to not need NATO membership and so far their neutrality has been successful.
 

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Putin about to be push aside or handle by his own people just watch.

While very unrealistic it's going to need all of the Oligarchs highest Generals and FSB to sign off otherwise it's a non starter. Also someone's going to snitch to gain favour rise up the ladder. Basically it's just one attempt at it and if it fails they are all gone. Then it's down to ill health/old age which could take years.
 
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