Russia's Invasion of Ukraine (Official Thread)

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1k+ ppl were inside before the air raid sirens went off and only 13 people died? could have been so much worse, shyt's a miracle. :wow:


they did this in lithuania first, with the raised money sent straight to humanitarian efforts for ukraine. it's great pr but it's not cheap either, good for baykar. they're gonna get rewarded in 2-3 years when they're selling these things to every country with a middling army. :pachaha:
 

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Ukrainians pulled out from this last battle. Next move for Russia is continue west or start go for Odessa or kharjiv.. We know us will help finanicially so this will stop once Ukraine takes enough manpower losses, seems hopeless for them, Russia runs out of resources, or Ukraine joins nato.
 

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The economic sanctions package looks like a catastrophic blunder a few months later now. It has done little to change Russia's rationale or posture in this conflict, has not affected their ability to fund the war in the short to mid-term, and has had far larger knock-on effects on the global economy than initially presumed by USA and EU. Energy prices appear locked in at these highs for the foreseeable future and, along with inflation, will have political consequences for sitting governments in all the G7 countries (and already have). It'll likely even get more grim in the winter, especially for the EU, if and when gas shortages have a glaring effect on day to day life.

This is without considering the effect of food shortages and food price hike on rest of the world, though at least that can be argued to have less of a direct connection to sanctions.

So far answer from Biden, EU etc has been to rhetorically blame Russia for the consequences, which while true in principle, is unlikely to have much resonance politically. There is also already some airing ofregret/second-guessing about where the sanctions should go from now and their effect on the economy: US Officials Are Split Over the Next Round of Russia Sanctions

Militarily it also appears the situation looks a lot less promising from Western perspective than it was a few months ago, now that Russia has concentrated its war aims. Looks like a grim path ahead both on political, economic, and war fronts.
 

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The economic sanctions package looks like a catastrophic blunder a few months later now. It has done little to change Russia's rationale or posture in this conflict, has not affected their ability to fund the war in the short to mid-term, and has had far larger knock-on effects on the global economy than initially presumed by USA and EU. Energy prices appear locked in at these highs for the foreseeable future and, along with inflation, will have political consequences for sitting governments in all the G7 countries (and already have). It'll likely even get more grim in the winter, especially for the EU, if and when gas shortages have a glaring effect on day to day life.

This is without considering the effect of food shortages and food price hike on rest of the world, though at least that can be argued to have less of a direct connection to sanctions.

So far answer from Biden, EU etc has been to rhetorically blame Russia for the consequences, which while true in principle, is unlikely to have much resonance politically. There is also already some airing ofregret/second-guessing about where the sanctions should go from now and their effect on the economy: US Officials Are Split Over the Next Round of Russia Sanctions

Militarily it also appears the situation looks a lot less promising from Western perspective than it was a few months ago, now that Russia has concentrated its war aims. Looks like a grim path ahead both on political, economic, and war fronts.
Agree with everything you said. I will add that the political blowback over the next few years will inevitably lead to more far-right, pro-Russian politicians being elected in these Western countries.
 
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