Russiagate is this era's WMDs - A catastrophe for the reputation of the news media

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yeah, but your gay little thread is over and done. there's no point in talking about russian collusion anymore :mjlol:
Theres more evidence he colluded than your Hillary fan fiction porn.

Unless you think MI6 just lied to take down Trump.

How do you swing from "people lied" to "they can't prove it definitively"
 

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at least 100,000 people died because of the wmd lie....

Good point. I was thinking in terms of political/media impact in America . The deaths and refugees, unfortunately, didn't cause nearly the impact it should have. In fact, we "stayed the course".
 

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Theres more evidence he colluded than your Hillary fan fiction porn.

Unless you think MI6 just lied to take down Trump.

How do you swing from "people lied" to "they can't prove it definitively"
you're saying with a straight face that hillary and the DNC put no actions in place to ensure the 2016 nomination was hers? are you fukking telling me that?
 

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you're saying with a straight face that hillary and the DNC put no actions in place to ensure the 2016 nomination was hers? are you fukking telling me that?
stay on topic motherfukker

stop saying "people lied on trump"

start saying "mueller did not find a case Barr would allowed to prosecute for clear collusion"
 

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Whats the problem here?
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5 Eyes partners are not supposed to spy on eachother's citizens, and we aren't supposed to evade requirements for surveillance.

Edit: Fun fact- Judge Nap was suspended after that aired.
 

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5 Eyes partners are not supposed to spy on eachother's citizens, and we aren't supposed to evade requirements for surveillance.

Edit: Fun fact- Judge Nap was suspended after that aired.
Thats how the world works. Being affiliated with foreign spies doesn't protect you from being looked into.

They colluded and got away with it.

Thats not the same as "there was no collusion"

I don't care about the rights of traitors.
 

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it's insane that you guys are playing stupid about this. let me tell you what happened, and you tell me what's implausible

after the 2008 primary that was also "her turn", hillary agreed to gracefully bow out of the race (note that it was later than bernie did in 2016). at that point, as her consolation prize, the wheels were set in motion so that in 2016 she wouldn't face the inconvenience of any democratic opposition. she used the clinton political machine to grease all the right people, and the higher ups of the party came to the conclusion that it would be her turn in 2016. the superdelegates were all bribed and pledged, and everyone in the Democratic party got the memo that hillary was the candidate in 2016, and running against her was not gonna result in a victory. that explains why zero democrats turned out to run, as opposed to this year when we have 10 prominent democrats running

i didn't actually think you clowns thought 2016 was a fair and open primary, and not just a symbolic gesture :dead:

All fiction. Superdelegates pledged early as was their right in the system. Some changed their mind, as is also their right and some chose not to.

6 people showed interest in running for the nomination and three people went to the primary stage.

O'malley dropped out, then it was Hillary and Bernie. To compare, the 2008 primaries generated 8 prospects. Considering the the 6 candidates came after 8 years of Obama isn't as bad as you try to make it sound.

African Americans, especially black women in the South weren't sold on Bernie and he lost there.

That many women thought it was Hillary's turn shouldn't be an indictment on anyone. White men give themselves a turn every presidential election.

Were they conflicts of interests in the DNC? Yes.

If the people had voted for Bernie instead of Hillary would the Supedelegates have moved over? Yes.

To pretend it was a vast conspiracy is like me trying to extend the Russian collusion case.
 
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