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Paul Manafort's first judge is a black woman :ohhh:

the second judge is a democratic donor :lolbron:

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Honestly now. Is all of this nothingburger more important than the cheeseburger emoji debate that just got swept under the rug from this morning? :pachaha::manny:
 

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HOLY. fukk.

MANAFORT AND GATES USED THEIR LAWYER TO LIE IN FRONT OF MUELLER.



Mueller team won battle to force testimony from lawyer for Manafort and Gates

Mueller team won battle to force testimony from lawyer for Manafort and Gates
Judge concluded there was substantial evidence attorney was duped into relaying falsehoods to Justice Department.
JOSH GERSTEIN10/30/2017 07:01 PM EDT
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Bob Mueller's team showed that Manafort and Gates were misleading or worse in efforts to minimize their Ukraine-related work, especially in the U.S. | Jim Watson/AFP/Getty Images

Prosecutors convinced a federal judge to require a lawyer for Trump campaign officials Paul Manafort and Rick Gates to testify before the grand jury investigating Russian involvement in the 2016 election, a court ruling unsealed on Monday showed.

The unusual move is an indication of the aggressiveness of special counsel Robert Mueller's prosecution team as they prepared to indict Manafort and Gates on charges of money laundering and failing to register as foreign agents. The 12-count indictment was made public on Monday.

Lawyers for Manafort and Gates fought the prosecution's drive to intrude on attorney-client communications. But Chief Judge Beryl Howell of the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia ruled that an exception, which involves using a lawyer to commit crime or fraud, applied to contacts with an attorney who helped respond to inquiries about why the pair had not filed foreign-agent lobbying registrations with the Justice Department.


The judge's 37-page opinion did not name the attorney prosecutors sought to put before the grand jury. CNN reported in August that Mueller's team was seeking the testimony of Melissa Laurenza, a partner at Akin Gump.

Spokespeople for Mueller's office and for Manafort declined to comment. Laurenza and spokespeople for Akin Gump and Gates did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

Howell said evidence the Mueller team brought forward showed that Manafort and Gates were misleading or worse in their efforts to minimize their Ukraine-related work, especially in the U.S.


The judge said some facts, deleted from her opinion, "establish" that the pair's denial of U.S. activity for Ukraine's Party of Regions "is false, a half-truth, or at least misleading because evidence shows that Target 1 and Target 2 were intimately involved in significant outreach in the United States on behalf of [a European think tank,] the Party of Regions and/or the Ukrainian government."

New York University law professor Stephen Gillers said the judge was persuaded that there was significant evidence Manafort and Gates had duped their lawyer into sending inaccurate letters to Justice about their lobbying efforts and about what emails might exist about the work.

"Essentially, the judge is saying that it is probable or likely that the clients had a criminal or fraudulent purpose in hiring the lawyer, even if (we would hope) the lawyer did not know it," Gillers told POLITICO.

Much of the prosecution's case for believing that the statements were false was redacted from the public version of Howell's opinion, but the professor said the fact that the judge was persuaded is meaningful for the pending case and beyond.

"The implications of this decision are significant. First, a judge has decided that the clients were committing a crime or fraud and using a lawyer to do it. So that tells us something about the strength of the OSC’s evidence. The OSC had the burden of proof and it met it," Gillers said. "Further, once you can pierce the privilege, there’s no telling what information you can go on to discover. This decision will be useful in other contests to discover lawyer-client communications, even communications with different law firms, if any."


While Mueller's team generally prevailed in the privilege fight, the judge allowed prosecutors to ask only seven of eight questions they'd proposed. Howell said a question about whether the attorney made any record of her conversations with Manafort or Gates violated a protection for the mental observations of lawyers.

The chief judge moved with haste in the privilege fight, holding three hearings on the issue in the second half of September, before ruling on Oct. 2. It appears the court held off releasing the opinion until Monday, when the indictment of Manafort and Gates was unsealed and the two men appeared for an arraignment at the federal courthouse near the Capitol.

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I'm confused. It POPA got pooped by the feds for lying. Why hasn't Mueller picked up Don Jr yet and indicted him? And Kushner. They both lied to feds, why aren't they in custody?
Lets be honest.

Imagine getting nabbed coming off your airplane flight ...at that moment you know you fukked up
 

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I understand that. But they picked up Popa for the same shyt Don Jr and Kushner did. Why haven't they arrested Don jr and Kushner for the same crime?
Because he is an easy in, he played a significant role, had contact with all the major players and is young and green. He isn't a career criminal, so after they got done leaning on him and threatening him with NBA Allstar game numbers, you know he's going to start snitching.
 

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Airport arrests are a good way to use "shock and awe", to surprise and throw the suspect off, taking him into custody when he expected to go home, so they are off balance, and scared. Also, an easy way to avoid scrutiny, by public, or friends/family, so avoid exposure, and embarrassment (for the suspect).

it's like you can go home, and nobody has to know, as opposed to messy public arrests.

They just walk up as you are leaving, and say, can you come with us for a moment? Get to a back room, and the Alonzo Harris on them.

Esp. in a case like this, where the subject was not under indictment, or foreign national, or on like Interpol red notice.
 

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Because he is an easy in, he played a significant role, had contact with all the major players and is young and green. He isn't a career criminal, so after they got done leaning on him and threatening him with NBA Allstar game numbers, you know he's going to start snitching.

You don't think Kushner would squeal? I'm sure he had his scared straight moment visiting his pops in prison.
 
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