murksiderock
Superstar
The problem with a "mixed" social class is, anecdotally, how you guys identify has extreme variance. A bunch of "mixed" people don't identify as "mixed" at all...There really needs to be a “mixed culture” for everyone’s sake. And I do value both Blackness and my White side but I am neither Black nor White so I must move thru this world accordingly.
I have to accept the harsh reality that I cannot (and should not) turn to established groups of people where I would ultimately stand out amongst them. We will never be able to fully relate to one another.
Mixed-race men and mixed-race women should be linking up in order to foster healthy and nourishing relationships/communities that only we can provide for ourselves.
Props for acknowledging these facts.
Discernible/apparent mixed/biracial individuals whose parents differ drastically in phenotype should want to stand apart from those who are fortunate enough to be legitimately Black passing/presenting.
My form is further away from the original and yours is closer. We must acknowledge this also.
Blackness is an identity that should be adopted and embodied by those who actually look the part and are considered as such all of the time by everyone, regardless of admixture. It is not an identity or essence for those individuals like myself who are kinda, sorta, somewhat…but not really.
And that’s the thing, I want to change that standard. Being Black should strictly mean that both parents are also Black (again, regardless of admixture).
Phenotypic wholesomeness and its maintenance from one generation to the next should be the main goal…
Question, my first BM is white-passing, like I said she got that Mariah shyt going. Based off what you just said, should she assimilate into white culture because she isn't discernibly black upon first glance?
You answer that based off how you truly feel---->but then the reality is that she hasn't adopted and assimilated into whiteness. There are certainly contrasts in being raised by a white woman and reared by a black woman, and as I mentioned earlier, there are signs in her being raised by a white woman (certain things she cooks and eats, her style). That is what it is, we all know there exists "full" black people who were reared in white households; therefore, being raised by a white woman isn't an exclusion from being black...
She was raised by a white woman but also has a much tighter relationship with her dad's family than her mom's, and the evidence of this is there in other things she cooks and enjoys. Her best friend is black, most of her social circle is black, her two children are with a black man and she has never dated anything but black men...
But she's white passing, she should identify as white? Or since she has a white parent, she should be like "im not actually white or black"? This is a biracial woman just like you, white parent/black parent, who would disagree with you pretty entirely on this topic. My second BM is also considered "mixed" by people who view Hispanics as their own race, she's pro-black than a muhfukka and she'd definitely disagree with you...
Your social circle, meaning the women you date, your homies, and family you're closest with, are mainly white, correct?
Just to clarify, that's not what I'm doing...Yeah, this silly shyt needs to stop
We need to stop pretending that folks with European admixture from 5 or 6 generations ago is the same as somebody with an actual white parent
Nicca have a family reunion with nothing but black people playing like it’s the same as biracials
I don't value "mixed" as a legitimate descriptor of anyone since almost everybody black is mixed, so if we use the term "mixed" I use it based on how those mixed people live their lives and identify...
Patrick Mahomes is a white man. We know the schools he went to and where and how he was raised, he wasn't raised in black culture or society, and as an adult he doesn't live in black society nor does he date or mainly socialize black...
That's a man who has a black father but has been living white his entire life, and I'm cool with that. There is no "mixed people" foods unless we start talking about Hispanic cultures. There is no "mixed people styles", that everyone else borrows from or adopts. There is no mixed cultural anything because being mixed means you're an adaptation of multiple things--->and an orginator of virtually nothing...
But you cant live life as both black AND white, abd unlike Latin Americans, there is no cultural significance or cultural exports that derive from being "mixed". So my central point, I don't even use the phrase "mixed". Every black person descended from slaves in The West is "mixed", it's a non-issue that people have made an issue. I can acknowledge, that this person is biracial and has a nonblack parent, but that person is living their lifestyle either black or in the nonblack lineage they have, whether it's white or something else. Ain't nobody out here living "mixed"...
So me personally dog, I don't even bring up "mixed" when talking about someone who is black. My dad's mom was a Panther and from Havenscourt, East O. Yet we have a legion of nikkas on here who will say my grandma isn't black because her mom was white, just fukk the fact she had her kids with two black men, was a Panther, grew up in a historically black neighborhood, is an advocate for black causes in Sacramento, has black grandchildren, fukk all that...
I have 13 siblings, two of them have a white Mexican mother and one has a Filipina mother. My sister with the Mexican mom married and had kids with a white man, and her mom is white passing, so she's a white woman if I'm defining her. My sister with the Asian mom is with and has kids with a brother, and has lived in black spaces her whole life, she black. My brother with the Mexican mom had his son with a Mexican, but looks black, and identifies as black from when he was Upstate to out on the streets, says he's never been treated as a Mexican because he doesn't look Mexican...
People in this very thread say, you can't make black families or people if you don't come from two black people...
I'm Creole thru my mom's side, and anyone with anyone education on Creoles know it's just a mix of black and white folk from Louisiana...
I don't know bruh, my family and the way I was raised, I have no confusion on hat black is. I've never really been to a family reunion but at mine, wouldn't be no confusion on what BLACK means, and it doesn't mean you needed two black parents. It's all this other divisive shyt I have an issue with...
I do respect your point of view because as a brother I know we don't always have to agree on everything, black people have their own minds and perceptions. But I'll never agree with that line of thinking because in my family there was never any question of what "black" means...
