Rollin in this 64 (years) w/ kneecaps & draft picks on deck: The 2021 Detroit Lions Official Thread

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He played ok.
Threw a rz pick. Shoulda had another one with that punt he threw to Tartt.
But MxVay a good playcaller and the Rams are loaded. Aint like he was out there putting the whole team on his back overcoming trials and tribulations of other players shortcomings :mjlol:
Homeboy attempt to spin whatever u talkin about. The rams are in the super bowl because of Matthew stafford. We seen him do this chit for a decade bruh. That 4th quarter comeback is his bag.
 

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Homeboy attempt to spin whatever u talkin about. The rams are in the super bowl because of Matthew stafford. We seen him do this chit for a decade bruh. That 4th quarter comeback is his bag.
But nobody would be in here tooting the Stafford horn if Tartt caught that pick and Santa Clara sealed the game afterwards.

Stafford's a really good QB but not a franchise lifting player. He doesn't choke in pressure situations but he also has a handful of really stupid plays each game too.

When he's on, it's breathtaking to watch because he can make every throw in the book look routine. He had a few tonight that were :banderas: status.

I also don't think he's a leader like even Burrow already is. Missing that "it" factor.
 

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But nobody would be in here tooting the Stafford horn if Tartt caught that pick and Santa Clara sealed the game afterwards.

Stafford's a really good QB but not a franchise lifting player. He doesn't choke in pressure situations but he also has a handful of really stupid plays each game too.

When he's on, it's breathtaking to watch because he can make every throw in the book look routine. He had a few tonight that were :banderas: status.

I also don't think he's a leader like even Burrow already is. Missing that "it" factor.
Now how u gonna mention that dropped pic but not the dropped td. That’s why the woulda coulda shoulda don’t work. It gos both ways.

We seen the good and the bad of stafford for a decade. We seen it this season with the rams. But homeboy is on his chit right now.
 

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But nobody would be in here tooting the Stafford horn if Tartt caught that pick and Santa Clara sealed the game afterwards.

Stafford's a really good QB but not a franchise lifting player. He doesn't choke in pressure situations but he also has a handful of really stupid plays each game too.

When he's on, it's breathtaking to watch because he can make every throw in the book look routine. He had a few tonight that were :banderas: status.

I also don't think he's a leader like even Burrow already is. Missing that "it" factor.
If Stafford and Burrow switch teams maybe the Bengals make the playoffs. The Rams are likely still in the Super Bowl.
 

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Now how u gonna mention that dropped pic but not the dropped td. That’s why the woulda coulda shoulda don’t work. It gos both ways.

We seen the good and the bad of stafford for a decade. We seen it this season with the rams. But homeboy is on his chit right now.
Because that's the give and take with Stafford. Some amazing plays followed by some bonehead plays.
 

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Because that's the give and take with Stafford. Some amazing plays followed by some bonehead plays.
We know he got the talent we seen it. We seen him go from one ready to shawty to a good qb. Question was he can’t do it in a big game. :yeshrug:
 

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If Stafford and Burrow switch teams maybe the Bengals make the playoffs. The Rams are likely still in the Super Bowl.

I would like to build upon this post. The Rams are in a unique situation. They literally said screw the future, we are only worried about today. No other team in league history has been constructed in this manner. I would argue that as far as the sum of their parts, this iteration of the Rams is one of the most talented teams of this century. That's no hyperbole. Top five greatest defensive player of all time in Aaron Donald. Jalen Ramsey is going to be a first ballot HOF. Leonard Floyd is a beast, then they got Von Miller, a future Hall of Famer playing rejuvenated. Speaking of rejuvenated, OBJ is the #2, with Van Jefferson and Cooper Kupp. Not to mention Cam Akers and Sony Michel as RBs. They didn't do anything of this for Jared Goff. Stafford walked into an embarrassment of riches. He just basically doesn't have to be Kirk Cousins out there. But with how they've played and we saw stretches of the season where they won in spite of him, my opinion of him nor the Lions hasn't changed. 31 other teams don't build their teams in this fashion, it's an anomaly. Now, if he would have gone to Carolina and we are seeing the Panthers in the Super Bowl. I'd put down my pitchfolk and cease with all slander but nothing about this season has changed my opinion of him. Especially now when I look at Joe Burrow across from him, who in year two, took the Cincinnati Bengals to the Super Bowl. Burrow plays like what we thought we were getting with Stafford all those years ago. A special talent that could rise above moribund ownership. We got a good one in Stafford. We didn't get a great one like Joe Burrow.
 

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I would like to build upon this post. The Rams are in a unique situation. They literally said screw the future, we are only worried about today. No other team in league history has been constructed in this manner. I would argue that as far as the sum of their parts, this iteration of the Rams is one of the most talented teams of this century. That's no hyperbole. Top five greatest defensive player of all time in Aaron Donald. Jalen Ramsey is going to be a first ballot HOF. Leonard Floyd is a beast, then they got Von Miller, a future Hall of Famer playing rejuvenated. Speaking of rejuvenated, OBJ is the #2, with Van Jefferson and Cooper Kupp. Not to mention Cam Akers and Sony Michel as RBs. They didn't do anything of this for Jared Goff. Stafford walked into an embarrassment of riches. He just basically doesn't have to be Kirk Cousins out there. But with how they've played and we saw stretches of the season where they won in spite of him, my opinion of him nor the Lions hasn't changed. 31 other teams don't build their teams in this fashion, it's an anomaly. Now, if he would have gone to Carolina and we are seeing the Panthers in the Super Bowl. I'd put down my pitchfolk and cease with all slander but nothing about this season has changed my opinion of him. Especially now when I look at Joe Burrow across from him, who in year two, took the Cincinnati Bengals to the Super Bowl. Burrow plays like what we thought we were getting with Stafford all those years ago. A special talent that could rise above moribund ownership. We got a good one in Stafford. We didn't get a great one like Joe Burrow.
Stafford and the Lions were always a mismatch. The Lions needed a better QB. Stafford needed a better team. If he stayed in Detroit it was never going to work out.

All this has proven is exactly what I said. Better players have done more with less than Stafford has right now. You could maybe take 50% of the league's QBs and give them that Rams team and the results would be the same if not better. On the flip side you could take Stafford and put him on that 49ers team and it likely wins a Super Bowl.
 

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Yes Rationalize this shyt boys :ohlawd:


Stafford can only win with stacked teams

Tom Brady,Big Ben ,Pat Mahomes,Russell Wilson won with NOBODY around them. Staff couldn’t do no shyt like that.

:whew:
 

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Yes Rationalize this shyt boys :ohlawd:


Stafford can only win with stacked teams

Tom Brady,Big Ben ,Pat Mahomes,Russell Wilson won with NOBODY around them. Staff couldn’t do no shyt like that.

:whew:
This team makes the point. Stafford didn't always have shyt teams.
2014 Detroit Lions season - Wikipedia

The narrative is set now and it's always going to be dismiss everything he ever had in Detroit because it's Detroit vs him on a super team with the Rams. There's not going to be him on a decent team outside of Detroit and that team being elevated and winning because of his play. Straw man arguments will be made that people in Michigan are saying he's a shyt QB when almost nobody is saying that.

All those QBs you listed they elevated their teams. Stafford needs the opposite.
 

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I would like to build upon this post. The Rams are in a unique situation. They literally said screw the future, we are only worried about today. No other team in league history has been constructed in this manner. I would argue that as far as the sum of their parts, this iteration of the Rams is one of the most talented teams of this century. That's no hyperbole. Top five greatest defensive player of all time in Aaron Donald. Jalen Ramsey is going to be a first ballot HOF. Leonard Floyd is a beast, then they got Von Miller, a future Hall of Famer playing rejuvenated. Speaking of rejuvenated, OBJ is the #2, with Van Jefferson and Cooper Kupp. Not to mention Cam Akers and Sony Michel as RBs. They didn't do anything of this for Jared Goff. Stafford walked into an embarrassment of riches. He just basically doesn't have to be Kirk Cousins out there. But with how they've played and we saw stretches of the season where they won in spite of him, my opinion of him nor the Lions hasn't changed. 31 other teams don't build their teams in this fashion, it's an anomaly. Now, if he would have gone to Carolina and we are seeing the Panthers in the Super Bowl. I'd put down my pitchfolk and cease with all slander but nothing about this season has changed my opinion of him. Especially now when I look at Joe Burrow across from him, who in year two, took the Cincinnati Bengals to the Super Bowl. Burrow plays like what we thought we were getting with Stafford all those years ago. A special talent that could rise above moribund ownership. We got a good one in Stafford. We didn't get a great one like Joe Burrow.
That 2018 rams team was a very good team also. Let’s not act like they didn’t have a lot of this same core with arguably the best running back in the league.

If stafford was just not being Kirk cousin they wouldn’t be in the super bowl.

And it’s a lil early to be anointing joe burrow as a great qb.

Let it go. Stafford did what none of us thought he could do.
 

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That 2018 rams team was a very good team also. Let’s not act like they didn’t have a lot of this same core with arguably the best running back in the league.

If stafford was just not being Kirk cousin they wouldn’t be in the super bowl.

And it’s a lil early to be anointing joe burrow as a great qb.

Let it go. Stafford did what none of us thought he could do.
Speak for yourself
Stafford I've always said was good enough to win a Super Bowl on a deal with a solid defense.

A long while ago this team drafted WRs early like it was nothing. Mike Williams, Charles Rogers (RIP), Roy Williams. Now it's rough.
Stafford will play out his contract. Truthfully he's not the largest problem and he's serviceable enough to win with. Far worse QBs have won championships.
The Lions got rid of Jim Caldwell who took them to the playoffs. If a team decided to move on its always the right decision right? I'm not saying it wasn't the right decision I'm saying citing the fact that they made the decision isn't evidence it was the right call.

I'd say the Rams got rid of Goff because they hit a wall with him at QB. If Goff was good enough to reach a SB for them I don't see why Stafford wouldn't be able to do the same or even win one.
They wouldn't have made the playoffs anyway because they lost to Atlanta in a close game and Atlanta won their last game.

Trent Dilfer won a super bowl so what are you saying? Stafford can win a super bowl. He ain't Tom Brady but he's more than serviceable enough to win it all.
Stafford is serviceable enough with an elite D to win a super bowl.
 
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