Roland Martin Afraid Black Women May Join "Bothsides"

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imagine voting republican in this era

like i said black folks are cooked

if by some miracle, this fascist get elected with black folks giving him even close to 50% of the vote, i'll just laugh in disgust

it's the black folks in the south and red states who will be affected the most by his and republican policy

the party that is actively trying to set black people civil rights back to jim crow

This. And you got c00ns in here that claim they are for black advancement but their whole post history is ignoring what the GOP is currently doing and focusing on attacking the democratic party at every step.
I'm critical of the DNC for being a bunch of capitalist centrists but that doesn't blind me to the fact that the GOP is running on being reactionists to policies put in place by Dems, deregulation, tax cuts to the wealthy, more power to employers. GOP is harmful for life in general

 

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This. And you got c00ns in here that claim they are for black advancement but their whole post history is ignoring what the GOP is currently doing and focusing on attacking the democratic party at every step.
I'm critical of the DNC for being a bunch of capitalist centrists but that doesn't blind me to the fact that the GOP is running on being reactionists to policies put in place by Dems, deregulation, tax cuts to the wealthy, more power to employers. GOP is harmful for life in general

...you say this and yet your precious democrat party has ALLOWED them to run amok with NO pushback no counterpunch no defnse to protect the voters who keep them in office. the GOP is so bad but the dems work with them... you think the dems is so innocent we've been telling y'all its the same fukking bird... overt / covert...

at the end of the day black folks will leave the dems this is inevitable. and the dems will fall... what happens when your base crumbles? will other groups be the new base? no??? then...

EDIT: you call folks c00ns but you been voting for nothing for years holding up the same political party that does nothing specifically for our group but doing anything different makes us c00ns??? wow so brainwashed...

 

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...you say this and yet your precious democrat party has ALLOWED them to run amok with NO pushback no counterpunch no defnse to protect the voters who keep them in office. the GOP is so bad but the dems work with them... you think the dems is so innocent we've been telling y'all its the same fukking bird... overt / covert...

at the end of the day black folks will leave the dems this is inevitable. and the dems will fall... what happens when your base crumbles? will other groups be the new base? no??? then...

I'm critical of the DNC for being a bunch of capitalist centrists but that doesn't blind me to the fact that the GOP is running on being reactionists to policies put in place by Dems, deregulation, tax cuts to the wealthy, more power to employers. GOP is harmful for life in general

 

[High Art]

Only divesters and c00ns are #bothsides

They certainly play a role in spreading the right's message. I warned everyone about these people, especially the first one but no one took it seriously. I said there would be political ramifications. Those ramifications are coming. Misinformation is going into overdrive, even more than before. It will only get worse.

 

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They certainly play a role in spreading the right's message. I warned everyone about these people, especially the first one but no one took it seriously. I said there would be political ramifications. Those ramifications are coming. Misinformation is going into overdrive, even more than before. It will only get worse.

its not the bothsiders... its literally the DNC that caused all this!!!

cause : effect

its literally just that simple

 

[JT-Money]

its not the bothsiders... its literally the DNC that caused all this!!!

cause : effect

its literally just that simple

C'mon Democrats just need a couple more decades. And they'll finally provide tangibles in return for our votes. It's almost here I tell you!!

 

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C'mon Democrats just need a couple more decades. And they'll finally provide tangibles in return for our votes. It's almost here I tell you!!

Sometimes I read this forum and do not believe half these people shilling talk to black people enough to know the strong majority of politically active black people (we're talking tens of millions of people at around 90% in lock step) practice politics in the way they're advocating to practice politics and everything that happens for better and for worse is the result of the greater collective practicing politics this way.

If you're not happy with the results or where the country is trending, maybe you should be advocating for a different way of practicing politics then the current status quo methodology you're pushing. Especially since we can clearly see the direction your status quo brand has lead us and where it is taking us.

 

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C'mon Democrats just need a couple more decades. And they'll finally provide tangibles in return for our votes. It's almost here I tell you!!

Them nikkas gonna make up a minority at some point just to keep from addressing black folks

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Maybe we'll actually see the Democrats try a bit harder with their black agenda now and promote progressive and corrective policies to address the black community and take issues like reparations more seriously.


But it's likely they won't do anything but go harder with the black male shaming while the median black household's networth continues trending downward.

Biden gave $17 billion to HCBUs, $4 billion to Black farmers, aid to black-run small businesses in the covid relief act, banned no knock entries and chokeholds and mandated body cams, eliminated student debt for everyone they could legally do it for, reduced costs for insulin and other prescription drugs, put pressure on states that are underfunding HBCUs, etc.


Is it enough? No, not even close. But you bytch about them not doing anything, then don't pay any attention or acknowledge what they do. What incentive would they have to make positive moves forward if the target population isn't voting and isn't paying attention to what's been done?

https://www.thecoli.com/threads/president-biden-gives-16b-to-hbcus-a-record-for-an-administration.1033626/

https://www.thecoli.com/threads/black-farmers-will-receive-5-billion-of-the-stimulus-package.837331/

https://www.thecoli.com/threads/joe-biden-and-the-democrats-just-capped-the-price-of-insulin-bothsides.884742/

https://www.thecoli.com/threads/potus-bidens-justice-department-announces-ban-on-no-knock-entries-chokeholds-bothsides.873221/

https://www.thecoli.com/threads/feds-confirm-that-states-owe-hbcus-billions-in-funding.1032635/

The most realistic path forward is to increase the power of Black folk in the Democratic party by voting in primaries at higher levels and running for local office, in order to push the Democrats further towards Black issues both internally and by primarying centrists. Democrats aren't going to move to the left based on general elections because they see the white moderates and old people in the middle as the people who actually show up at the polls consistently, and thus those are the ones whose vote they target.

 

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Biden gave $17 billion to HCBUs, $4 billion to Black farmers, aid to black-run small businesses in the covid relief act, banned no knock entries and chokeholds and mandated body cams, eliminated student debt for everyone they could legally do it for, reduced costs for insulin and other prescription drugs, put pressure on states that are underfunding HBCUs, etc.


Is it enough? No, not even close. But you bytch about them not doing anything, then don't pay any attention or acknowledge what they do. What incentive would they have to make positive moves forward if the target population isn't voting and isn't paying attention to what's been done?

https://www.thecoli.com/threads/president-biden-gives-16b-to-hbcus-a-record-for-an-administration.1033626/

https://www.thecoli.com/threads/black-farmers-will-receive-5-billion-of-the-stimulus-package.837331/

https://www.thecoli.com/threads/joe-biden-and-the-democrats-just-capped-the-price-of-insulin-bothsides.884742/

https://www.thecoli.com/threads/potus-bidens-justice-department-announces-ban-on-no-knock-entries-chokeholds-bothsides.873221/

https://www.thecoli.com/threads/feds-confirm-that-states-owe-hbcus-billions-in-funding.1032635/

The most realistic path forward is to increase the power of Black folk in the Democratic party by voting in primaries at higher levels and running for local office, in order to push the Democrats further towards Black issues both internally and by primarying centrists. Democrats aren't going to move to the left based on general elections because they see the white moderates and old people in the middle as the people who actually show up at the polls consistently, and thus those are the ones whose vote they target.

$17 billion to HBCUs is fantastic, how much will that lower the average tuition by?

I'm happy for the black farmers, great for them, salute. I'm sure thanks to that the cost of groceries are lower than they were before Biden got into office.

Biden was the main one pushing for student loans to no longer be dischargeable in bankruptcy which played a huge part in the bullshyt we see today, he gets zero points for undoing the damage he played a large hand in causing

 

[Professor Emeritus]

$17 billion to HBCUs is fantastic, how much will that lower the average tuition by?

Over $4 billion of the money went directly to students to help them pay for tuition, so it will lower all of their costs by a lot. Another $12+ billion was mostly for improving programs to make the colleges better and more competitive, not to reduce their bottom line. However, some of it was debt relief, so that might help.

However, his administration also put 16 states on blast for underfunding their HBCUs and costing them about $13 billion over the last 30 years. That might help put some pressure to increase state funding in a few of those states, which could lead to lower tuition.

FACT SHEET: Biden-Harris Administration Announces Record Over $16 Billion in Support for Historically Black Colleges and Universities (HBCUs) | The White House

Today, the Biden-Harris Administration announced a new record in Federal funding and investments in Historically Black Colleges and Universities (HBCUs)

www.whitehouse.gov

Biden admin sends 'threatening' letter, pressures states to increase HBCU funding to achieve 'equity'

'We are at an inflection point that will determine our place in the world as leaders,' read the letter.

www.campusreform.org

• Nearly $4 billion for HBCUs through the American Rescue Plan and other COVID relief legislation. These grants funded through the Department of Education and other agencies have helped HBCUs support students’ ability to meet basic needs; support campus operations, staffing, teaching, and educational programs; and keep campuses and the surrounding communities on the path to an equitable recovery;
• $2.6 billion from the Department of Education to build institutional capacity at HBCUs. These efforts support the growth and sustainability of HBCU degree programs; increase and enhance human, technological, and physical infrastructure for research; strengthen positioning to secure direct partnership opportunities; and create sustainable fund development;
• Over $1.6 billion to HBCUs through Federal grants, cooperative agreements, and other competitive funding opportunities that drive the advancement of academic and training programs, community-based initiatives, and research innovation across national priorities such as medicine and public health, climate science, agriculture, emerging technologies, and defense;
• Almost $950 million to support HBCUs in growing research capacity and related infrastructure to better compete for Federal research and development dollars;
• Nearly $719 million in grant funding to expand STEM academic capacity and educational programs; and in other high-wage, high-demand fields such as computer science, nursing, and allied health;
• Over $150 million in Federal contracting opportunities awarded to HBCUs, including for research and expansion of STEM education programs at the Department of Health and Human Services, Department of Transportation, Department of Energy, and U.S. Agency for International Development;
• $1.6 billion in capital finance debt relief for 45 public and private HBCUs. Discharging these debts has enabled these institutions to focus resources on supporting students, faculty, and staff while recovering from the COVID-19 pandemic; and
• Over $2.4 million in Project SERV funds to support HBCUs affected by more than a dozen bomb threats in 2022. These grants have helped restore safe learning environments and invest in student mental health and well-being for students.
• $2.8 billion in need-based grants and other Federal programs, including Pell Grants, Federal Work-Study and Supplemental Educational Opportunity Grants, to assist HBCU students in affording a postsecondary education; and
• Nearly $1.3 billion to support Veterans attending HBCUs through the GI bill and other college, graduate school, and training programs delivered through the Department of Veterans Affairs.

I'm happy for the black farmers, great for them, salute. I'm sure thanks to that the cost of groceries are lower than they were before Biden got into office.

You have to be a child to think that presidents have much impact at all on global commodity prices. Those prices are set by supply/demand, not by one nation's executive policy.

Biden was the main one pushing for student loans to no longer be dischargeable in bankruptcy which played a huge part in the bullshyt we see today, he gets zero points for undoing the damage he played a large hand in causing

Make this make sense to me. You want to incentivize Democrats to do the right thing. So if they fukked up shyt 30 years ago, but pulled a 180 and are doing what you want them to do now.....isn't it logical to support them?

Saying, "I'm not going to support this shyt I like because I want to punish you for that shyt you did the previous century" is hustling backwards. IF there was another option, then I get holding them for that. Biden's past actions are a big reason I campaigned against him in the primaries. But when it's a general and the option is Trump? WTF do you think you're going to get by saying, "Well, I'm still pissed at you so I don't care if you made shyt right!"

 

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Over $4 billion of the money went directly to students to help them pay for tuition, so it will lower all of their costs by a lot. Another $12+ billion was mostly for improving programs to make the colleges better and more competitive, not to reduce their bottom line. However, some of it was debt relief, so that might help.

However, his administration also put 16 states on blast for underfunding their HBCUs and costing them about $13 billion over the last 30 years. That might help put some pressure to increase state funding in a few of those states, which could lead to lower tuition.

• Nearly $4 billion for HBCUs through the American Rescue Plan and other COVID relief legislation. These grants funded through the Department of Education and other agencies have helped HBCUs support students’ ability to meet basic needs; support campus operations, staffing, teaching, and educational programs; and keep campuses and the surrounding communities on the path to an equitable recovery;
• $2.6 billion from the Department of Education to build institutional capacity at HBCUs. These efforts support the growth and sustainability of HBCU degree programs; increase and enhance human, technological, and physical infrastructure for research; strengthen positioning to secure direct partnership opportunities; and create sustainable fund development;
• Over $1.6 billion to HBCUs through Federal grants, cooperative agreements, and other competitive funding opportunities that drive the advancement of academic and training programs, community-based initiatives, and research innovation across national priorities such as medicine and public health, climate science, agriculture, emerging technologies, and defense;
• Almost $950 million to support HBCUs in growing research capacity and related infrastructure to better compete for Federal research and development dollars;
• Nearly $719 million in grant funding to expand STEM academic capacity and educational programs; and in other high-wage, high-demand fields such as computer science, nursing, and allied health;
• Over $150 million in Federal contracting opportunities awarded to HBCUs, including for research and expansion of STEM education programs at the Department of Health and Human Services, Department of Transportation, Department of Energy, and U.S. Agency for International Development;
• $1.6 billion in capital finance debt relief for 45 public and private HBCUs. Discharging these debts has enabled these institutions to focus resources on supporting students, faculty, and staff while recovering from the COVID-19 pandemic; and
• Over $2.4 million in Project SERV funds to support HBCUs affected by more than a dozen bomb threats in 2022. These grants have helped restore safe learning environments and invest in student mental health and well-being for students.
• $2.8 billion in need-based grants and other Federal programs, including Pell Grants, Federal Work-Study and Supplemental Educational Opportunity Grants, to assist HBCU students in affording a postsecondary education; and
• Nearly $1.3 billion to support Veterans attending HBCUs through the GI bill and other college, graduate school, and training programs delivered through the Department of Veterans Affairs.

"17 billion to HBCUs is fantastic, how much will that lower the average tuition by? "

Simple question that only needs a simple answer. Here's how you answer simply:

"On average this will reduce the cost of attendance to HBCU's by 15%, here's a link to the study that shows how this will happen"

And then I would read the link and give you props.

You have to be a child to think that presidents have much impact at all on global commodity prices. Those prices are set by supply/demand, not by one nation's executive policy.

Nah, you just have trouble having civil conversations. I'm pointing out to you why this doesn't move me personally and you're trying to win some weird argument. The funding was great for them, and I'm happy for them, I'm not opposed to them getting money and would never vote in opposition to black farmers getting money, but if all of our groceries are collectively going up regardless, I'm not seeing what win for us is or why this is a selling point to someone who's not a farmer. This information doesn't move me in any direction. Happy for my farming brehs tho!

Saying, "I'm not going to support this shyt I like because I want to punish you for that shyt you did the previous century" is hustling backwards. IF there was another option, then I get holding them for that. Biden's past actions are a big reason I campaigned against him in the primaries. But when it's a general and the option is Trump? WTF do you think you're going to get by saying, "Well, I'm still pissed at you so I don't care if you made shyt right!"

I salute this line of thinking. It's the one shared by the average every day person, and it's the mentality that has created the political climate we're in today. Keep that status quo going my guy.

 

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The most realistic path forward is to increase the power of Black folk in the Democratic party by voting in primaries at higher levels and running for local office, in order to push the Democrats further towards Black issues both internally and by primarying centrists. Democrats aren't going to move to the left based on general elections because they see the white moderates and old people in the middle as the people who actually show up at the polls consistently, and thus those are the ones whose vote they target.

This this this. Been saying that for a minute. There have been a number of progressive politicians elected through a grassroots campaign. And as you mentioned, the Dems had forced to move more left just to maintain power. Policies moving left=positive growth for black folks (really all people).

 

[Professor Emeritus]

This this this. Been saying that for a minute. There have been a number of progressive politicians elected through a grassroots campaign. And as you mentioned, the Dems had forced to move more left just to maintain power. Policies moving left=positive growth for black folks (really all people).

Exactly. It's the way to literally make shyt happen. As opposed to the poster above you, who is literally just bytching on the internet.

 

[BaggerofTea]

@Professor Emeritus killed all the bullshyt.


If you have a retort after his posts, you are either disingenuous or plain stupid