Rogue One: A Star Wars Story [Official Thread]

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Yeah a lot of juevos for a Disney flick. Well a recent Disney flick. Back in the day they had them in spades. Props to them for letting Lucasfilm and Edwards do their thing
I honestly thought that, knowing the outcome, this film couldn't garner the suspense needed to make it to the finish line. Breh, I was wrong.
The third act was simply str8 dope :banderas:
 

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I swear motherfcukers nowadays have non-existent attention spans.

I was actually watching the start of 'A New Hope' and was reminded by the sense of 'slowness' and the simple focus on story-telling that you don't really get nowadays. People could actually watch an entire minute of dialogue and not slip into a coma back then though. :stopitslime:


After watching this a second time, I have to agree. I don't get the complaints about pacing and it being slow in the first act. People can't complain about lack of character development one hand and then the exposition and interactions needed to build characters on another. The third act wouldn't have even made sense without the first act.
 

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Loved the ending, it reminded me of Halo Reach's in a way.

Glad I wasn't the only one dozing off during this. I had to kick myself to stay awake at one point....dude next to me was like :dahell::myman: That last act was so worth it though. Kids in the theater were crying when Vader was fukking them nikkas up but I was rooting for my mans. :banderas:
 
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After watching this a second time, I have to agree. I don't get the complaints about pacing and it being slow in the first act. People can't complain about lack of character development one hand and then the exposition and interactions needed to build characters on another. The third act wouldn't have even made sense without the first act.

I think people misinterpret complaints about pacing and flow with the story being "slow". I don't think the first story acts are slow, but they are poorly paced and flow pretty badly. A good example is the first couple minutes after the prologue. We see Jyn captive in an Empire prison. Two minutes and four different locales later and we're back with Jyn, who is now on a prison transport on an entirely different planet. So what was the point of having the first scene of her sitting in her cell? The only point could be to tell us she's a prisoner of the Empire, but this fact is also clear to us by her being on the prison escort, so the entire scene of her sitting in the cell adds nothing and is only in the way. The first two acts or so are full of scenes like this that add nothing and just make the story stumble forward clumsily.
 

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I think people misinterpret complaints about pacing and flow with the story being "slow". I don't think the first story acts are slow, but they are poorly paced and flow pretty badly. A good example is the first couple minutes after the prologue. We see Jyn captive in an Empire prison. Two minutes and four different locales later and we're back with Jyn, who is now on a prison transport on an entirely different planet. So what was the point of having the first scene of her sitting in her cell? The only point could be to tell us she's a prisoner of the Empire, but this fact is also clear to us by her being on the prison escort, so the entire scene of her sitting in the cell adds nothing and is only in the way. The first two acts or so are full of scenes like this that add nothing and just make the story stumble forward clumsily.

:ehh: Great example. OK, that makes more sense. I honestly loved it all though.
 
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i'm actually kinda shocked to see some of the fans arguing in favor of an opening crawl. i thought the way they did it was perfect.

this was unlike your typical star wars movie in so many ways, i don't even know if the scale is big enough to warrant such an epic and encompassing lead-in. i say reserve the crawl for the 'actual' star wars movies... the big, grand operatic films that they are.
 

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I think people misinterpret complaints about pacing and flow with the story being "slow". I don't think the first story acts are slow, but they are poorly paced and flow pretty badly. A good example is the first couple minutes after the prologue. We see Jyn captive in an Empire prison. Two minutes and four different locales later and we're back with Jyn, who is now on a prison transport on an entirely different planet. So what was the point of having the first scene of her sitting in her cell? The only point could be to tell us she's a prisoner of the Empire, but this fact is also clear to us by her being on the prison escort, so the entire scene of her sitting in the cell adds nothing and is only in the way. The first two acts or so are full of scenes like this that add nothing and just make the story stumble forward clumsily.

Same with the first scene we see of the pilot meeting Saw's goons, it doesn't add anything and is kind of repeated next time we see him ("Are you Saw Gerrera?").
 

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i'm actually kinda shocked to see some of the fans arguing in favor of an opening crawl. i thought the way they did it was perfect.

this was unlike your typical star wars movie in so many ways, i don't even know if the scale is big enough to warrant such an epic and encompassing lead-in. i say reserve the crawl for the 'actual' star wars movies... the big, grand operatic films that they are.
I ain't mad about it. If it isn't an episode, there doesn't need to be a crawl. That's just me though. :yeshrug:
 

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Same with the first scene we see of the pilot meeting Saw's goons, it doesn't add anything and is kind of repeated next time we see him ("Are you Saw Gerrera?").

Yup. Another scene that stood out to me was in the middle of the Jedha City firefight Cassian shoots down one of Saw's rebels. Considering at this point they're trying to make contact with Saw's rebels, and he in fact mentioned that they don't trust the Alliance (hence why they needed Jyn to make contact), why the hell would he do that? It doesn't make any sense and considering that it also does nothing to make him any more morally ambiguous than he already is at this point (as we saw him kill the rebel spy in cold blood in his very first scene), it's just pointless.
 

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Yup. Another scene that stood out to me was in the middle of the Jedha City firefight Cassian shoots down one of Saw's rebels. Considering at this point they're trying to make contact with Saw's rebels, and he in fact mentioned that they don't trust the Alliance (hence why they needed Jyn to make contact), why the hell would he do that? It doesn't make any sense and considering that it also does nothing to make him any more morally ambiguous than he already is at this point (as we saw him kill the rebel spy in cold blood in his very first scene), it's just pointless.

I was under the impression
the guy Cassian shot was about to throw a grenade where Jyn was crouched
 
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