Rick Glaser: Mayweather v Maidana 2 did only 772k PPV buys...not 925k. Dan Rafael says high 800k.

[Newzz]

at Bradley vs Pac 2 doing 750k, that's Bob's numbers. You can believe him if you want

I havent heard any disputing numbers though


The thing with the Mayweather numbers is that it's not just Rick Glaser disputing the numbers....Dan Rafael as well is saying that the 925k figure is as well

 

[InvictusAeternusEternus]

I havent heard any disputing numbers though


The thing with the Mayweather numbers is that it's not just Rick Glaser disputing the numbers....Dan Rafael as well is saying that the 925k figure is as well

That's because Bobs got a lot of boxing writers on the payroll or out right afraid of printing anything negative about him or his stable due to getting they credentials snatched. Which you already know but you on some shyt so go ahead and cook breh!


I never commented on the Mayweather numbers but as far as that fat slob rafael is concerned I trust fat ass about as far as an premature baby could throw him.

 

[Newzz]

That's because Bobs got a lot of boxing writers on the payroll or out right afraid of printing anything negative about him or his stable due to getting they credentials snatched. Which you already know but you on some shyt so go ahead and cook breh!


I never commented on the Mayweather numbers but as far as that fat slob rafael is concerned I trust fat ass about as far as an premature baby could throw him.

Now we saying Rick Glaser and Dan Rafael are on the payroll breh?


Is that what it's come to in the land of #TMT? Accusing writers/journalists of being on the TR payroll because NO ONE has reported less than the 750k-800k figure of Pacquiao vs Bradley 2, but they are willing to put their name/rep on the line to say Mayweather vs Maidana 2 did not do 925k?


We trusting Kevin Iole's sources over Dan Rafael's and Rick Glaser's sources?

 

[Black_Jesus]

That's because Bobs got a lot of boxing writers on the payroll or out right afraid of printing anything negative about him or his stable due to getting they credentials snatched. Which you already know but you on some shyt so go ahead and cook breh!


I never commented on the Mayweather numbers but as far as that fat slob rafael is concerned I trust fat ass about as far as an premature baby could throw him.

Dont be @Skip b breh... you're better than that lol

 

[InvictusAeternusEternus]

Dont be @Skip b breh... you're better than that

Breh Im not lying though, these writters is shook of Bob Arum and have been for decades, as sheisty as this guy is there are rarely if ever any negative articles written about him by anybody with boxing credentials.
Even if you choose not to believe that how can you trust anything said by a man who said "yesterday I was lying, today im telling the truth".

As far as fatass is concerned he hates Floyd, always has and always will, you can tell when watching him that it physically pains him to say something positive about Floyd. Any chance he gets hes gonna shyt on him
and because integrity in journalism has gone by the wayside even when hes wrong about Floyd and has admitted so he will turn right around a few months later and say the same false shyt he said before.

All that being said I don't really trust any numbers not released by HBO/Showtime themselves officially because legally they have to report real numbers, that's why instead of lying they just withhold the information when a fight doesn't sell as well as they like. This is just as true for Floyd as it is for Bob as it is for De la Dildo.

 

[seemorecizzy]

What yall fail to realize is, we ALL know the numbers are decent numbers. HOWEVER, Floyd himself made it a point to address the fact he was doing 1+ million PPVs and everyone else (Pacquiao basically was who he was going at) was doing around 700-850k, so that means he wasnt anything at the box office....and yall Floyd stans ran with it.

Now that Floyd is dropping down extremely (2.2 million in September 2013 to "only" 772k in September 2014), yall wanna act reasonable and respect the numbers (and bring up the undercards as a point of Floyd's non-normal success when yall didnt give a fukk about the roles the undercards played in Floyd's success previously like we told yall)....it's too late

Pacquiao's last fight he did 750-800k. Floyd's last fight he just did 772k.

I mean you can poke at the low number (by Floyd standards)but at the end of the day, everything floyd said regarding being a bigger draw than pacquaio and having all the ppv records still applies

2.2 territory to 700k plus is a fall off but no pacquaio hasn't even touched 2.2 in his life

And his next ppv will b lucky to hit 100 k



Just seems like people are lookin for any thing to give Floyd a L cause he can't get one in the ring

 

[InvictusAeternusEternus]

Now we saying Rick Glaser and Dan Rafael are on the payroll breh?


Is that what it's come to in the land of #TMT? Accusing writers/journalists of being on the TR payroll because NO ONE has reported less than the 750k-800k figure of Pacquiao vs Bradley 2, but they are willing to put their name/rep on the line to say Mayweather vs Maidana 2 did not do 925k?


We trusting Kevin Iole's sources over Dan Rafael's and Rick Glaser's sources?

On the payroll or scared of crossing him sure, it doesn't hurt that both fatass 1 and fatass 2 have a deep hatred for Floyd.



Everybody reporting numbers is quoting the same source though, if Bob says 750 to 800k to fatass then he reports it, and every BS website in the world will quote that number as fact.



Put what name and rep on the line? Integrity in journalism(sports especially) is dead fatass 1 and 2 have displayed this fact in spades.

 

[Master Teacher]

I havent heard any disputing numbers though


The thing with the Mayweather numbers is that it's not just Rick Glaser disputing the numbers....Dan Rafael as well is saying that the 925k figure is as well

And where are they getting their figures from lol

Rafael want even a confirm a number or a source

people look for any sort of chink in the mayweather armor

they want to bring him down peg, its just comes with success

both the maidana fights are the most successful PPVs this year in all combat sports, so trying to diminish it is just hurting the sport

 

[Black_Jesus]

Breh Im not lying though, these writters is shook of Bob Arum and have been for decades, as sheisty as this guy is there are rarely if ever any negative articles written about him by anybody with boxing credentials.
Even if you choose not to believe that how can you trust anything said by a man who said "yesterday I was lying, today im telling the truth".

As far as fatass is concerned he hates Floyd, always has and always will, you can tell when watching him that it physically pains him to say something positive about Floyd. Any chance he gets hes gonna shyt on him
and because integrity in journalism has gone by the wayside even when hes wrong about Floyd and has admitted so he will turn right around a few months later and say the same false shyt he said before.

All that being said I don't really trust any numbers not released by HBO/Showtime themselves officially because legally they have to report real numbers, that's why instead of lying they just withhold the information when a fight doesn't sell as well as they like. This is just as true for Floyd as it is for Bob as it is for De la Dildo.

Put thats an extreme accusation... Its one thing to say writers dont like talking bad about Bob, but to go from that to, they're straight up making lies on Showtime for them to look bad in the media ALL for Bob is a reach..

Its been over 30 years since Bob said that shyt.. I think its time to let it go

 

[Newzz]

I mean you can poke at the low number (by Floyd standards)but at the end of the day, everything floyd said regarding being a bigger draw than pacquaio and having all the ppv records still applies

Im holding Floyd to his own standards. Why would I compare him to anyone else

2.2 territory to 700k plus is a fall off but no pacquaio hasn't even touched 2.2 in his life

Pacquiao did 1.25 million against JMM with 2 non-draws in Timothy Bradley vs Joel Casamoyer as the "Co-Main Event" breh

Switch that Co-Main Event with Danny Garcia vs Lucas Matthysse and you get dangerously close, or even surpass 2 million imo

And his next ppv will b lucky to hit 100 k

Hyperbole?


We know it's gonna be the 3rd biggest PPV of the year in buys already...no need to predict numbers, because we know it's not gonna be 700k but it's not gonna be 100k either. Probably somewhere around 400-500k.

Just seems like people are lookin for any thing to give Floyd a L cause he can't get one in the ring

Floyd and his stans used the numbers to justify his "Money" persona and bragged about being the only fighter to break 1+ million PPV sales like it proved anything, when the boxing fan never cared about that.

Now that the numbers are being used AGAINST him, who cares about the PPV sales anymore now huh?

And let's keep it real, Floyd is #1 all-time in PPV sales and Manny is #3 all-time in PPV sales, so it never made any difference. They will RETIRE as the #1 and #2 PPV draws of all-time.

It NEVER made any sense for Floyd and his stans to use PPV sales as justification for anything he was doing, but yall did, so deal with it on the flip side when the sales start slipping

 

[patscorpio]

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both the maidana fights are the most successful PPVs this year in all combat sports, so trying to diminish it is just hurting the sport

what came out of both of these cards that in any way moved this sport forward in any way much less in 2014? did we get a notable fight from these cards? only may-maidana 1. did we get a FOTY candidate on both cards? no we did not. did we get an interesting undercard on both cards? no we did not. were these cards ppv worthy and cats paying 75 bucks for them? no they were not. Hell are both of these cards even a candidate for best boxing card overall this year?

None of these boxing PPVs this year moved boxing out of the dreary 2014 that we are having. the floyd ppvs are getting maligned rightfully because they were shyt cards on paper that turned to be shyt for real save for the may-maidana 1 fight and it came from the number one fighter in this sport who places the most emphasis on this shyt. that alone hurt boxing and why there's such a backlash against PPVs for boxing

 

[Newzz]

And where are they getting their figures from lol

Rafael want even a confirm a number or a source

Where is Kevin Iole getting his figures from?

Iole wont even confirm a number or a source either

people look for any sort of chink in the mayweather armor

they want to bring him down peg, its just comes with success

Floyd's Carrie now?

"They're all gonna laugh at you"

Breh, FLOYD and you and the rest of his stans used his PPV sales over and over again as his badge of honor....so why is PPV sales now irrelevant to boxing discussion

both the maidana fights are the most successful PPVs this year in all combat sports, so trying to diminish it is just hurting the sport

Actually, according to numerous reports (and never denied or reported differently), Pacquiao vs Bradley 2 is the 2nd biggest PPV of the year

Floyd does well at the box office, as usual, but he's doing "Pacquiao numbers" as of now.

 

[Master Teacher]

what came out of both of these cards that in any way moved this sport forward in any way much less in 2014? did we get a notable fight from these cards? only may-maidana 1. did we get a FOTY candidate on both cards? no we did not. did we get an interesting undercard on both cards? no we did not. were these cards ppv worthy and cats paying 75 bucks for them? no they were not. Hell are both of these cards even a candidate for best boxing card overall this year?

None of these boxing PPVs this year moved boxing out of the dreary 2014 that we are having. the floyd ppvs are getting maligned rightfully because they have were shyt cards on paper that turned to be shyt for real save for the may-maidana 1 fight and it came from the number one fighter in this sport who places the most emphasis on this shyt. that alone hurt boxing and why there's such a backlash against PPVs for boxing

Not every fight is going to break records lol

Both fights still came close to one million buys

Maidana did better than the last 3 UFC's combined

what's the fuss about?

Boxing has good fights every year, I'm just talking about numbers wise, you don't really have a case, when those PPVs still are leagues above the crop

 

[InvictusAeternusEternus]

Put thats an extreme accusation... Its one thing to say writers dont like talking bad about Bob, but to go from that to, they're straight up making lies on Showtime for them to look bad in the media ALL for Bob is a reach..

Its not them (the writers) making up lies per se, they are just reporting what Bob tells them as a fact when its anything but. I don't believe for one second that their "sources" are not in fact Arum or someone else in his circle.

Again I don't trust the Mayweather 925k numbers totally either since it was Iole who wrote it (and seeing as he is a bit of a shill for Floyd) they are just BS to me. If Espinosa or a Showtime exec came out and said all numbers are added up and it officially did 925k id believe it, other than that, im inclined to believe its somewhere in the middle, 800-850k.

 

[Master Teacher]

Where is Kevin Iole getting his figures from?

Iole wont even confirm a number or a source either




Floyd's Carrie now?

"They're all gonna laugh at you"

Breh, FLOYD and you and the rest of his stans used his PPV sales over and over again as his badge of honor....so why is PPV sales now irrelevant to boxing discussion




Actually, according to numerous reports (and never denied or reported differently), Pacquiao vs Bradley 2 is the 2nd biggest PPV of the year

Floyd does well at the box office, as usual, but he's doing "Pacquiao numbers" as of now.

so basically you're gonna believe what you want to believe lol

pacquiao is above criticism in the media for whatever reason so nobody looks into him or discusses him for that matter

That's the entire point, nobody can be objective

Dan Rafael says the numbers arent right but those state any source or the reason why

They can't take away the fact Floyd made 32 million that fight, so they have to find something else

it's just petty