THASTUNNA
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@ 100K PPV buys. come on now. I won't be one of those that pay for it but I'm sure it's gonna do 350 - 450
Rick Glaser: Mayweather v Maidana 2 did only 772k PPV buys...not 925k. Dan Rafael says high 800k.
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@ 100K PPV buys. come on now. I won't be one of those that pay for it but I'm sure it's gonna do 350 - 450
I believe Floyd vs Maidana 1 did the 900k that was reported, that Pacquiao vs Bradley 2 did the 750k-800k that was reported, and that the rematch of Floyd vs Maidana 2 did the 772k that was reported.
Do you REALLY believe that the rematch of Floyd vs Maidana, with less buzz (per NUMEROUS reports), and the worse PPV undercard of the year actually did MORE buys than Floyd vs Maidana 1 with Amir Khan and Adrien Broner fighting on the undercard in seperate bouts as well
Yeah, because it's not like articles on Pacquiao's, partying, drinking, cheating, and gambling have never been written
Dan Rafael says the numbers arent right but those state any source or the reason why[/quote]
But neither did Kevin Iole state any source or the reason why he got the number 925k, so why do you believe THAT?
Im going to always believe Dan Rafael and Rick Glaser over Kevin Iole. Same way I believe Doug Fischer, Steve Kim, Breadman, Ben Crawford, Percy Crawford, Greg Leon, and Elie Seckbach when they report something. They have been around for years and know what they're talking about when it comes to boxing.
We already knew how much Floyd would make when he signed the 6 fight, 200 million deal with Showtime when he left HBO. Nobody that follows boxing is "amazed" anymore when Floyd's check is delivered....his minimum is 32 million.
I believe Floyd vs Maidana 1 did the 900k that was reported, that Pacquiao vs Bradley 2 did the 750k-800k that was reported, and that the rematch of Floyd vs Maidana 2 did the 772k that was reported.
Do you REALLY believe that the rematch of Floyd vs Maidana, with less buzz (per NUMEROUS reports), and the worse PPV undercard of the year actually did MORE buys than Floyd vs Maidana 1 with Amir Khan and Adrien Broner fighting on the undercard in seperate bouts as well
Yeah, because it's not like articles on Pacquiao's, partying, drinking, cheating, and gambling have never been written
Dan Rafael says the numbers arent right but those state any source or the reason why
But neither did Kevin Iole state any source or the reason why he got the number 925k, so why do you believe THAT?
Im going to always believe Dan Rafael and Rick Glaser over Kevin Iole. Same way I believe Doug Fischer, Steve Kim, Breadman, Ben Crawford, Percy Crawford, Greg Leon, and Elie Seckbach when they report something. They have been around for years and know what they're talking about when it comes to boxing.
We already knew how much Floyd would make when he signed the 6 fight, 200 million deal with Showtime when he left HBO. Nobody that follows boxing is "amazed" anymore when Floyd's check is delivered....his minimum is 32 million.[/QUOTE]
See this is the problem how can you believe the numbers reported for one and not the other lol
when did I say I believe Kevin Lole, I don't even know who that is, I'm asking if Dan Rafael is so confident the numbers aren't right, where is his source, why didn't he tell us what the numbers simply he doesn't know, so he has some kind of agenda
He's the same guy who said the buzz was dead at the press conference, then at the weigh ins the shyt is packed lol
the second fight had way more hype than the first, people have selective memories once again, nobody even wanted Floyd to fight Maidana and criticized him for picking him
but this it
people pick in choose, the final numbers will eventually come out like they always do
History. The guys I named have history in the sport and have been proven right numerous times over the years
Rick Glaser told us the number. You never "out" your sources either
Multiple reporters reported the lack of buzz and activity...especially at the press conference and in Vegas overall.
The weigh in is free to get in and celebrities attend it as well. Didnt Rick Ross perform during the weigh ins?
The 1st fight had wayyyyyy more buzz....are you kidding me?
Maidana was fresh off of beating Adrien Broner and was riding high going into that fight. The rematch did not have the same build, buzz, publicity as the 1st fight.
No they wont.
Stephen Espinoza refuses to release PPV numbers anymore ever since Mayweather vs Maidana 1 did not break 1 million.
ChocolateGiddyUp
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Kevin Iole confirmed his sources were cable N satellite providers N said he stands by his 925k number 10000000%
"Kevin Iole is an award-winning veteran sportswriter, and a Nevada Boxing Hall of Fame Director of the Board. He is the national boxing and mixed martial arts reporter for Yahoo! Sports. Kevin previously covered boxing for the Las Vegas Review-Journal and other publications, writing on some of the biggest names and bouts in the sport"
He's yahoos fat Dan
Muhfukker was at the meeting with the NV commission N TMT yesterday
But nikkas wanna believe the nikka tweeting on his couch Glaser over Iole
"Kevin Iole is an award-winning veteran sportswriter, and a Nevada Boxing Hall of Fame Director of the Board. He is the national boxing and mixed martial arts reporter for Yahoo! Sports. Kevin previously covered boxing for the Las Vegas Review-Journal and other publications, writing on some of the biggest names and bouts in the sport"
He's yahoos fat Dan
Muhfukker was at the meeting with the NV commission N TMT yesterday
But nikkas wanna believe the nikka tweeting on his couch Glaser over Iole
Black_Jesus
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Thats right... we're saying Lole's lying...Kevin Iole confirmed his sources were cable N satellite providers N said he stands by his 925k number 10000000%
"Kevin Iole is an award-winning veteran sportswriter, and a Nevada Boxing Hall of Fame Director of the Board. He is the national boxing and mixed martial arts reporter for Yahoo! Sports. Kevin previously covered boxing for the Las Vegas Review-Journal and other publications, writing on some of the biggest names and bouts in the sport"
He's yahoos fat Dan
Muhfukker was at the meeting with the NV commission N TMT yesterday
But nikkas wanna believe the nikka tweeting on his couch Glaser over Iole
Do you really believe this fight did more than yhe 1st one?
ChocolateGiddyUp
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nikka according to you errybody is lying except Bob Arum
Kevin Iole was shytting on Floyd N All Access all day yesterday.... Why would he lie for them??
Glaser also said Floyd Canelo did 1.7-1.8 despite NUMEROUS people cosigning the over 2 million number
So you god damn right I ain't believing shyt Glaser says on any matter Showtime, Floyd, Haymon, Dibella
Dan Rafael speaks on Mayweather vs Maidana 2 PPV buys
772k from Rick Glaser, might hit high 800k from Dan Rafael, and then 925k from Kevin Iole....which Kevin Iole's number has been disputed by both Glaser and Rafael.
And it makes sense why...how could Kevin Iole have the PPV numbers only 5 days after a fight?
And this is noteworthy as well:
“They won’t announce numbers, which means they won’t announce numbers they are disappointed by. This was Floyd’s 4th bout on his 6-fight deal. Only one has cracked a million buys, the Canelo record breaking fight they gleefully announced,” Dan Rafael said on his Chat at ESPN.com earlier on Friday.
Disappointed by numbers under 1 mil?
That's because Showtime doesnt really get anything out of anything less than 1 mil per the contract that Floyd has. Yes, he gets his money regardless, but they pretty much breaking even or going in the red
772k from Rick Glaser, might hit high 800k from Dan Rafael, and then 925k from Kevin Iole....which Kevin Iole's number has been disputed by both Glaser and Rafael.
And it makes sense why...how could Kevin Iole have the PPV numbers only 5 days after a fight?
And this is noteworthy as well:
“They won’t announce numbers, which means they won’t announce numbers they are disappointed by. This was Floyd’s 4th bout on his 6-fight deal. Only one has cracked a million buys, the Canelo record breaking fight they gleefully announced,” Dan Rafael said on his Chat at ESPN.com earlier on Friday.
Disappointed by numbers under 1 mil?
That's because Showtime doesnt really get anything out of anything less than 1 mil per the contract that Floyd has. Yes, he gets his money regardless, but they pretty much breaking even or going in the red
Dan Rafael speaks on Mayweather vs Maidana 2 PPV buys
772k from Rick Glaser, might hit high 800k from Dan Rafael, and then 925k from Kevin Iole....which Kevin Iole's number has been disputed by both Glaser and Rafael.
And it makes sense why...how could Kevin Iole have the PPV numbers only 5 days after a fight?
And this is noteworthy as well:
“They won’t announce numbers, which means they won’t announce numbers they are disappointed by. This was Floyd’s 4th bout on his 6-fight deal. Only one has cracked a million buys, the Canelo record breaking fight they gleefully announced,” Dan Rafael said on his Chat at ESPN.com earlier on Friday.
Disappointed by numbers under 1 mil?
That's because Showtime doesnt really get anything out of anything less than 1 mil per the contract that Floyd has. Yes, he gets his money regardless, but they pretty much breaking even or going in the red
lmao, this is ridiculous
he said the ppv won't come close to a million buys then he says high 800,000's, huh, thats close to a millio buys lol
how do you know what showtime gets or what the deal involves do you have a copy of the contract lol, did you broke the deal
ChocolateGiddyUp
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High 800s is ALOT closer to Ioles 925k
Then Glasers 772k claim
Then Glasers 772k claim
Black_Jesus
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Dan Rafael speaks on Mayweather vs Maidana 2 PPV buys
772k from Rick Glaser, might hit high 800k from Dan Rafael, and then 925k from Kevin Iole....which Kevin Iole's number has been disputed by both Glaser and Rafael.
And it makes sense why...how could Kevin Iole have the PPV numbers only 5 days after a fight?
And this is noteworthy as well:
“They won’t announce numbers, which means they won’t announce numbers they are disappointed by. This was Floyd’s 4th bout on his 6-fight deal. Only one has cracked a million buys, the Canelo record breaking fight they gleefully announced,” Dan Rafael said on his Chat at ESPN.com earlier on Friday.
Disappointed by numbers under 1 mil?
That's because Showtime doesnt really get anything out of anything less than 1 mil per the contract that Floyd has. Yes, he gets his money regardless, but they pretty much breaking even or going in the red
LINK?
Is it close to a million buys?
let's say the fight did 875k for sake of argument...if the fight needs 1 million to be profitable for the company, you dont think that extra loss of 9.4 million dollars effects the bottomline for the company (Showtime)?
Read between the lines scrappy.
They only officially announced the PPV buys of 1 out of 4 fights since he's signed there....Floyd vs Canelo. It was also the only fight Floyd has had, while being signed to Showtime, that the projected figure was over 1 million.
In contrast, on HBO, his last 4 fights were at 1.06 vs JMM, 1.4 vs Mosley, 1.25 vs Ortiz, and 1.5 vs Cotto
Do you really think Showtime came out of pocket with that large of a number (6 fights, minimum 200 million total) to give to a fighter who averaged 1.3 million views over his last 4 bouts, just for him to put up less than 1 million buys in 75% of the fights on their network?
I dont, so I believe it when I hear the journalists make the statement that Showtime is disappointed with the buys under 1 million.
Again, they have their sources as well. You can take it with a grain of salt, but the info and the numbers are there to look at.
Ask yourself why Showtime is refusing to release official PPV numbers...and then get back to me.
High 800s is ALOT closer to Ioles 925k
Then Glasers 772k claim
Either way, it aint 925k which is fake as hell numbers.
I believe Dan Rafael and his sources over both Kevin Iole and Rick Glaser.
Black_Jesus
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