I guess the game is only played on third down.
Revenge is a Dish Best Served GOLD: The Official 2012 SF 49ers Season Thread
- Thread starter LastEmperor2k2
- Start date
I guess the game is only played on third down.
feelosofer
#ninergang
Let's take a minute.
I'm trying to see this from both sides. But here are the facts. Kaepernick has started 3 games. He was great in the Bears games, he deserved the props he got, but overall the Bears laid down that game, we could have won that game with Scott Tolzien, but no matter Kaep played well. In the Saints game, I Kaep played ok that game was a push. In this game today, Kaep was very average, he made some good throws and he had an impressive 50 yard run, but that aside, dude was just ok. The problem is this, when you switch QB's in the middle of the season, you typically do it when your season is in trouble. Not in the middle of a top seeded playoff run. No one here are really fanboys of Alex we all understand his weaknesses, but in terms of OUR offense he brings more strengths. We all know he can't throw a deep ball but outside of Randy Moss do we have any real deep threats, not really. We are a POWER RUN offense, which means we run first and essentially pass the ball to keep defenses honest. In that case conservatism is a virtue, becasue Harbaugh offense in general, is not built to be high scoring, it's meant to chew clock. Kaep will be a better QB than Alex Smith, maybe as soon as the end of season but right now HE ISN'T. Not yet but if he's going to play now at this crucial juncture in the season then yes he will be held to the same standard as a 7 year veteran, those are the breaks.
Busby
Real name no gimmicks..
Let's take a minute.
I'm trying to see this from both sides. But here are the facts. Kaepernick has started 3 games. He was great in the Bears games, he deserved the props he got, but overall the Bears laid down that game, we could have won that game with Scott Tolzien, but no matter Kaep played well. In the Saints game, I Kaep played ok that game was a push. In this game today, Kaep was very average, he made some good throws and he had an impressive 50 yard run, but that aside, dude was just ok. The problem is this, when you switch QB's in the middle of the season, you typically do it when your season is in trouble. Not in the middle of a top seeded playoff run. No one here are really fanboys of Alex we all understand his weaknesses, but in terms of OUR offense he brings more strengths. We all know he can't throw a deep ball but outside of Randy Moss do we have any real deep threats, not really. We are a POWER RUN offense, which means we run first and essentially pass the ball to keep defenses honest. Kaep will be a better QB than Alex Smith, maybe as soon as the end of season but right now HE ISN'T. Not yet but if he's going to play now at this crucial juncture in the season then yes he will be held to the same standard as a 7 year veteran, those are the breaks.
Thank you...
Dude I'm in the thread saying Kap can be a franchise QB and he will be better than Alex ever has or will be.
Only thing I been saying is that he is not ready. hat is a damn fact man, this dude been regressing each game.
I'm not going to co sign risking a possible championship season on him right now.
Too many people seem perfectly fine with doing that. The defense and spin jobs being pulled are funny, because if Alex put up these same numbers he'd be crucified it
Busby
Real name no gimmicks..
THIS...
Let's take a minute.
I'm trying to see this from both sides. But here are the facts. Kaepernick has started 3 games. He was great in the Bears games, he deserved the props he got, but overall the Bears laid down that game, we could have won that game with Scott Tolzien, but no matter Kaep played well. In the Saints game, I Kaep played ok that game was a push. In this game today, Kaep was very average, he made some good throws and he had an impressive 50 yard run, but that aside, dude was just ok. The problem is this, when you switch QB's in the middle of the season, you typically do it when your season is in trouble. Not in the middle of a top seeded playoff run. No one here are really fanboys of Alex we all understand his weaknesses, but in terms of OUR offense he brings more strengths. We all know he can't throw a deep ball but outside of Randy Moss do we have any real deep threats, not really. We are a POWER RUN offense, which means we run first and essentially pass the ball to keep defenses honest. In that case conservatism is a virtue, becasue Harbaugh offense in general, is not built to be high scoring, it's meant to chew clock. Kaep will be a better QB than Alex Smith, maybe as soon as the end of season but right now HE ISN'T. Not yet but if he's going to play now at this crucial juncture in the season then yes he will be held to the same standard as a 7 year veteran, those are the breaks.
couldn't agree more gospel
Kaepernick is a true potential franchise QB, but he's not there yet, right now this offense is better with Smith, especially considering how well the d is playing
Kaep is the future but the time ain't now, give Alex the job back for the rest of the year and then start with Kaep in 2013
its just not that, he just looks better out there
hes more accurate and makes all the throws
garcia was a limited qb but got damn he made plays
at some point this team will need its qb to take control and win the game
as you've seen, the running game isnt reliable, there going to run gore into the ground now that hunter is hurt. i have no idea why james isnt out there, jacobs is only good for short yardage
the qb simply has to do more
TheLukieBaby
Pro
I am going to jump and say my piece.
fukk Alex Smith, point blank period.
He has had 8 years and only had one season in which he was good and for the most part , all he did was "not play as bad as previous seasons". Remember how many fukking times people have gotten behind Alex his first run, then he lost out to Shaun Hill - who probably should of been are starter the following season , but then fukking JT O'Sullivan beats both out to put terrible numbers. Then we get the Singletary era , where we nibbled at the playoffs when he jumped in at the end of the season and they kept showing the Alex Smith to Vernon Davis roll out TD as though it was the catch by Joe Montana....then what?
He lead the team out to 33-3 slaughter when we were suppose to win the divison. Moron, Momma boy's who live at their mom's house like Bubsy who has had two heart attacks at age 23 and never been around a sport would think Smith is better - it makes sense, because he has been a loser all his life, hence Smith reminds him of himself.
Smith got a handful of coaches fired for just not performing at some point you just have to play. The offense is a shell of itself with Smith running the show as well as Smith getting his "C" ripped off his chest during halftime, the team doesn't respect him - notice how quiet everyone was when the switch happened.
In reality our team just has to hand the ball of 40 + times to Gore/Jacobs/Hunter/James and throw different looks in terms of passing not just the shotgun formation slant pattern. On top of this Smith took 45 sacks last year just to pad his ratio of completions to incompletion to further his "game manager" moniker. Essentially you could put dead at 40 Busby at QB and if we run the ball 40 + times we have a good chance to win. I didn't see why you wouldn't want the player with the higher upside offensively since we have mainly just had Frank Gore up the middle, Alex Smith tipped pass to Interception or punt for the past 5 fukking years, why not?
Alex will not help us win the super bowl, period
fukk Alex Smith, point blank period.
He has had 8 years and only had one season in which he was good and for the most part , all he did was "not play as bad as previous seasons". Remember how many fukking times people have gotten behind Alex his first run, then he lost out to Shaun Hill - who probably should of been are starter the following season , but then fukking JT O'Sullivan beats both out to put terrible numbers. Then we get the Singletary era , where we nibbled at the playoffs when he jumped in at the end of the season and they kept showing the Alex Smith to Vernon Davis roll out TD as though it was the catch by Joe Montana....then what?
He lead the team out to 33-3 slaughter when we were suppose to win the divison. Moron, Momma boy's who live at their mom's house like Bubsy who has had two heart attacks at age 23 and never been around a sport would think Smith is better - it makes sense, because he has been a loser all his life, hence Smith reminds him of himself.
Smith got a handful of coaches fired for just not performing at some point you just have to play. The offense is a shell of itself with Smith running the show as well as Smith getting his "C" ripped off his chest during halftime, the team doesn't respect him - notice how quiet everyone was when the switch happened.
In reality our team just has to hand the ball of 40 + times to Gore/Jacobs/Hunter/James and throw different looks in terms of passing not just the shotgun formation slant pattern. On top of this Smith took 45 sacks last year just to pad his ratio of completions to incompletion to further his "game manager" moniker. Essentially you could put dead at 40 Busby at QB and if we run the ball 40 + times we have a good chance to win. I didn't see why you wouldn't want the player with the higher upside offensively since we have mainly just had Frank Gore up the middle, Alex Smith tipped pass to Interception or punt for the past 5 fukking years, why not?
Alex will not help us win the super bowl, period
TheLukieBaby
Pro
On top of this unless we get hot late in the season due to playing @NE & @SEA, which could propel us to a strong finish - we are not playing well. Our D is spotty at times and I do not even understand why we have a PR since we only get into bullshyt with that. Thinking for the best, but I see a lot of flaws in our team.
It's never been completely about statistics, because if it were we'd all be pissed about alex getting benched. It's about what our offensive weakness has been to this point, yes alex has been solid statically but that doesn't tell the whole story man. We've all been saying, at least many of us, that alex wont push or take risks, or checking down on throws where we've had wide open receivers. I've said many times that I'm a fan of alex but I also realize he's limited. This game today is much deeper than what kaep did wrong, because in all honesty I think alex does worse than kaep did given the same exact circumstances this game. It's all speculation but ive said before when kaep first got the job that the team will take it's lumps but it's better now than in the playoffs. By then, a toss to ginn isnt a fumble or matter of fact, if akers hits a fg or if walker catches that td or doesnt hold the very same drive we're not even having this conversation.
What about the Vikings you dumbfukk? He was ass against them...and the Jets....and the Seahawks who couldn't generate any O
yseJ
Empire strikes back
thats bullshyt...that game with a bad qb and its like a 3-3 stalemate. you cant just substitute things like that.
its not like our games against bills and jets at all. bears got turnovers from hella qbs.
you tellin me tolzien would move the ball like kaep did ?
Let's take a minute.
I'm trying to see this from both sides. But here are the facts. Kaepernick has started 3 games. He was great in the Bears games, he deserved the props he got, but overall the Bears laid down that game, we could have won that game with Scott Tolzien, but no matter Kaep played well. In the Saints game, I Kaep played ok that game was a push. In this game today, Kaep was very average, he made some good throws and he had an impressive 50 yard run, but that aside, dude was just ok. The problem is this, when you switch QB's in the middle of the season, you typically do it when your season is in trouble. Not in the middle of a top seeded playoff run. No one here are really fanboys of Alex we all understand his weaknesses, but in terms of OUR offense he brings more strengths. We all know he can't throw a deep ball but outside of Randy Moss do we have any real deep threats, not really. We are a POWER RUN offense, which means we run first and essentially pass the ball to keep defenses honest. In that case conservatism is a virtue, becasue Harbaugh offense in general, is not built to be high scoring, it's meant to chew clock. Kaep will be a better QB than Alex Smith, maybe as soon as the end of season but right now HE ISN'T. Not yet but if he's going to play now at this crucial juncture in the season then yes he will be held to the same standard as a 7 year veteran, those are the breaks.
Alex is a 8 year vet playing in a system designed for an inexperienced QB. It's stripped down to the point that it leaves no thinking to the QB. He is a 1st read QB. Kaep can do that and then some.
If Kaep could not step in now and do what Alex is doing, Harbs would not have named him the starter. One bad game and some a yall are freaking out. Will Alex somehow make Akers figure out how to kick a ball through the uprights? Will he make Delanie learn how to catch?
Even with his mistakes, Kaep put us in position to win today. That's all you can ask from your QB.
How yall act like Alex is the second coming of Steve Young is
We're not getting a ring with Smith, I have no issue going with Kaep. Son was killing those slants too and still is better on 3rd down than Smith.
Jmare007
pico pal q lee
Running game was ass.
Playcalling was ass.
The OLine was ass.
I'm sorry but I don't see Alex doing a good job today either. He doesn't do well when that kind of stuff is happening in a game. That said, he probably manages to not fukk up and we win 9-6 or something like that. But to me, that's not a good reason for giving him the starting job back.
I'm way more afraid of Alex's limitations than Kaep's lack of experience.
Playcalling was ass.
The OLine was ass.
I'm sorry but I don't see Alex doing a good job today either. He doesn't do well when that kind of stuff is happening in a game. That said, he probably manages to not fukk up and we win 9-6 or something like that. But to me, that's not a good reason for giving him the starting job back.
I'm way more afraid of Alex's limitations than Kaep's lack of experience.