Revenge is a Dish Best Served GOLD: The Official 2012 SF 49ers Season Thread

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I know he had a bad game... A very bad game against a very good team and defending champs, but I don't think there is a need to hit the panic button yet. Hell, not making excuses but if anything now I wonder is his throwing hand really good or really worse off then they are letting the public know

The hand shyt is no excuse for me though because he came out looking like a champ
 

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See that aint totally true, because he had a great comeback W vs. Philly last year, this was just a clusterfukk of a game.

He's feeling himself too much

I'm talking about this season. Can't say I remember the playcalling in that Philly game tbh.
 

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I'm talking about this season. Can't say I remember the playcalling in that Philly game tbh.
philly couldnt stop the run and we got a great stop from justin smith to end that game...

playcalling is weird because when our run game is working its nearly perfect. playaction everywhere, creative runs, easy gains, etc.

when we start losing, roman says fukk all to creative runs, put alex in shotgun (ie obvious pass situation for most part) and its a clusterfukk.
 

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The hand shyt is no excuse for me though because he came out looking like a champ

That's what pisses me off about Alex. He was dealing early (should've been 10-0 after the 1st qt) but as soon as he made that sloppy throw to Delanie, it was over for him.

I just hope he can bounce back on Thursday, it's a must win imo.
 

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See that aint totally true, because he had a great comeback W vs. Philly last year, this was just a clusterfukk of a game.

He's feeling himself too much

One fukking game where Ronnie Brown threw the football backwards out of 70+ means Alex can come back? :what:

Yall can keep calling me a hater, but what I say about Alex rings true.
 

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The crazy part about this loss is how my peeps (on FB and via text) been hitting Mr up to shyt on Alex. The irony of that is they are Eagles, Patriots, Cowboys, and Steeper fans. Go figure

Hell a Raider fan had the nerve to POP shyt to me? :snoop:

Alex has 3 bleh! games against good defenses and good games against bottom feeding defenses.

Kaep is coming in for a reason.
 

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still cant believe that play and the fact fat andy actually called that option te toss. on the goal line :laff:

I couldn't believe what I saw. He had to have money on the game.
 

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welp the blueprint is out :beli:

How Giants took apart the 49ers
In crushing San Francisco, New York provided a blueprint for others
Originally Published: October 14, 2012
By Matt Williamson | ESPN.com
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If Alex Smith has to carry the 49ers, that's likely a win for the defense.
The New York Giants won in very convincing fashion in San Francisco on Sunday. They played a nearly flawless game and made the nation realize that the defending Super Bowl champions are not fading away in 2012.

In the process, New York showed us the offensive and defensive blueprint for beating the 49ers.

When asked on ESPN Radio's pregame show Sunday morning how I would attack the Niners' great defense, I immediately said that I would have put the entire game more or less on Eli Manning's shoulders. Especially with Hakeem Nicks active, I would have put Manning in the shotgun a very high percentage of the time with Ahmad Bradshaw as the lone back. Bradshaw not only is a good runner, but he is a valuable receiver, which could be key in dump-off and screen situations. But Bradshaw is also one of the very best backs in the league in pass protection.


I would have also utilized almost all three- or four-receiver sets. In three-receiver sets, Martellus Bennett, another fantastic blocker, would be the fifth skill position player. Seeing the 49ers' secondary as the weakest portion of their defense and with some worries about their overall secondary depth, the running game would have been an afterthought in my blueprint and Eli would have attempted somewhere in the neighborhood of 50 passes.

While that just might have worked, Tom Coughlin's desire for balance and the great patience he showed with his running game paid off huge late in this game, as the Giants won the time of possession battle. New York took the fight to San Francisco. This game featured two of the very best offensive lines in the league and two exceptional defensive lines. But it was the Giants' front five on offense -- including David Diehl, who made appearances as a sixth lineman -- that deserves the game ball for their prowess in the run game, especially between the tackles, and for keeping Manning clean against a great pass-rushing defense.

San Francisco might be the most physical team in the league, but it was not the most physical team on the field in this contest. Well, Manning wasn't too shabby, either. I didn't think San Francisco's coverage was poor in this game overall, but as usual Manning made terrific throws in tight spots and his receivers made some difficult catches, as well.

On the other side of the ball, San Francisco has a method in which it wins games, and that method has been extremely successful since Jim Harbaugh took over as head coach. This coaching staff minimizes the quarterback position by featuring a terrific rushing attack that is extremely diverse and difficult to prepare for both mentally and physically. The 49ers bludgeon their opponents with a wide variety of personnel groupings and formations. They also usually play ahead of the down and rarely find themselves in situations in which they are forced to throw in difficult down-and-distance circumstances.

With Alex Smith's limitations as a passer, this is a great strategy, especially when combined with strong special-teams play and what might be the best defense in the league. And Smith rarely turns the ball over -- he realizes that punts are not a bad thing. But like we saw Sunday, if the Niners turn the ball over, it is very tough for them to win against a high-quality opponent. Such turnovers will put the defense in compromising positions and hurt the overall time of possession, which is a key component to San Francisco's method for winning games. What the Niners do not want is to force Smith into a position where he consistently has to make tough throws. Unlike Manning, he isn't going to drive the ball downfield and put it in very tight spots against a defense that knows it is coming. Smith has improved in his second season under Harbaugh, but the QB still has his limitations and by no means does Harbaugh want the game on his shoulders.

Can San Francisco still win when such a situation does arise as it did Sunday? Sure. Smith isn't a bum. He is a solid NFL quarterback and can make plays with his arm and his legs. But when comparing the 49ers to the other top teams in the NFC like New York, Chicago, Green Bay and Atlanta, forcing Smith to win games is the recipe for victory against the 49ers.

All of Smith's interceptions against the Giants came on downfield throws. This is not a come-from-behind offense, and getting an early lead on San Francisco is of paramount importance. Without yet seeing the coaching tape, it also appeared that the Giants did everything possible to take Vernon Davis out of the game and make San Francisco's other receivers beat them. Davis is a special player having a tremendous season, but the other receiving threats are very ordinary overall. That went a long way to making Smith play out of his comfort zone, and surely the 49ers' opponents -- namely Seattle this Thursday night -- will take into account how effective it was for the Giants to eliminate Davis and make everyone else beat them.

Also compounding matters for the Niners in Week 7 is that they very well could be without Joe Staley (concussion) on a short week. That is a tremendous problem against a fierce Seattle defense. Smith was sacked six times by the Giants and was never in a comfort zone. as New York also mixed in blitzes very effectively. The 49ers' special teams also didn't do them any favors.

On paper, dominating the 49ers in the way the Giants did seems easy to pull off, but executing it is altogether different. The 49ers are a high-quality team and a Super Bowl contender, but unlike the other contenders around the league, they have to take pressure off their quarterback rather than having their quarterback as the focal point of the franchise. That's a difficult thing to do, and the Giants took advantage nearly to perfection.
 

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We can't go back to the 5 ,7 step drop backs against Seattle man especially win Staley out idk what Roman was thinking against the Giants u not gonna have that kind of time . Gore only had 8 carries and VD had like what 2 -3 targets. We just need to go back to our bread n butter power running game we will bounce back.
 
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