Report shows Hispanics are rapidly moving up the economic ladder than blacks.

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Also stable 2 parent households are a huge factor that many in the black community simply refuse to acknowledge. Tripping your child of the opportunity to grow up with big parents in the household is murder. You’re already killing your child. Kids need stability.

But we got men and women thinking it’s cool to aspire to having baby mamas and daddies. Folk should be shunned for that but we embrace that shyt.

We have a lot of work to do. Racism is a mahfukka but we need to play our part too.

Edit: Apple predictive text and spellcheck is shyt.
 
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Nah not from my experience

Never had a Mexican come up to me and beg for money, have seen plenty beg for work though. I’ve seen them sell flowers on the side of the road, sell oranges, work all sorts of crazy ass jobs.

That's because those are the extremely poor Mexicans that work here on farms "illegally" and sell fruit as a side hustle because there really not the ones that are not suppose to be here.

The ones that grew up in here in America are just as lazy and try to get over on you like most Americans with half ass effort.
 

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Underrated post. This needs it's own thread and actual consideration among AA people. It feels like our best idea of how to get ahead in this country is to assimilate rather than cultivate strength among ourselves. :snoop: Whereas immigration incentivizes people from the same country to come together and work together in their new country.

It's so simply devestating.

Kill a man's hope, his family and his culture then ship him to a deserted island...what will he do?

Vs.

A man brings his family to a deserted island with all of his hopes and dreams and the promise for a better future.

Just the thought is :mjcry::to:
 
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What? What is this sentence supposed to be saying? :what:

Arizona white people aren't liking Hispanics right now. Just sayin.
Useful targets to gauge the public's resolve. Most of Trump's hatred will be targeted towards black people after the midterms. Many Hispanic Trump voters have zero problems with these concentration camps, so long as black people are the ones contained in them. To keep it real, there are a lot of Mexican-Americans that don't give a fukk about the children being snatched from their parents. :francis:
 

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Wells Fargo invested $30 billion in the Hispanic community :francis:

Black people get a kick in the ass & get told to work harder

Why should they invest in black America, there are people on this board that will tell you "plenty of black are doing well" or were not really doing bad out here. Or they think we're lying when we pull out stats that shows our true condition but refuse to accept thed truth.
 

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How is that possible? If you offer service at the right place, you should be able to make scratch. Are unions keeping blacks out?

This is why my cousin left construction, he worked harder and had more experience then all of them but kept getting past over for other Mexicans, the bosses were all Mexican and hired there relatives, how in the world to you beelieve this doesn't happen

A registry is being sued for hiring discrimination against black in favor of other latino's that's major nepotism, same with phillipino's in the medical field
 

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Wells Fargo invested $30 billion in the Hispanic community :francis:

Black people get a kick in the ass & get told to work harder
The quote below is why

Bullshyt.

Our people are out there doing some pretty great things in the business, Medical, and Academic fields

We have issues, but we aren't on the verge of extinction.


This is what I'm talking about, refusal to believe our true position is a major reason why we can't fix the problem.
 

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This is sad. We still aren't motivated during the Trump era. I don't know what has to happen to wake Black people up.

Well at least our Black women are completely lapping us also :francis:
 

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Man, I hate that they've tried to label nikkas as lazy. I grew up in a middle/working class neighborhood and every fukking body worked hard as fukk. Every damn day. Both parents. Wasn't no stay at home moms in my hood. Everyone old enough had job working long hours. Don't let them call us lazy. fukk outta here with that shyt:camby:

Hard work means nothing if you aren't building up towards something and leaving something behind for you're children. Many of us work hard only to have our children do the same thing all over again. Each generation starts at ground zero with no wealth and has to dig out their own way only for their children to have do the same thing. We are not family oriented community. Nor are we strategic in any affairs. This is why we lose. This isn't entirely our fault though. Systematic racism has destroyed all family structure. However, it is up to us to restore it.
 

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It’s no big mystery, they go to college and get higher paying jobs. Same thing the Asians, Africans and Caribbean people do.

The African American community needs to take a page from these immigrant communities.

Even with structural racism in place, a college education can help a great deal.
 

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Mexicans have a lot of cultural advantages I’ve also observed in African immigrant groups that AAs just don’t have due to reasons of history, etc.

They can practice group economics in part because they are insulated by language / culture in a way AAs aren’t.

If you want a fire ass taco / quesadilla...you can’t get it from Chad you have to get it from Jose and Maria. What’s a similar AA cuisine? Bubba and Becky Sue can make some fire ass ribs and fried chicken too sometimes.

Immigrant groups always get paid off of delivering cuisine because they have a competitive advantage there - Chinese food, Mexican food, Jamaican food: you pay to get the authentic flavors from them.

Mexican culture is also verrrrrrry traditional and there’s not a culture of shytting on poor people to the same degree as AA culture. Every culture shyts on poor people, but modern AA culture shyts on poor people to a degree that is truly headscratching all things considered - lower and middle class people actively consume music that tells them they’re not shyt if broke. The shyt makes ZERO sense considering the statistics.

There’s very little shame in Mexican culture about packing a house full of people...like 3 families with 3 breadwinners etc. provided they’re family.

You have people in borderline situations (meaning they could stretch themselves a bit financially or live beneath their means) who are culturally given the latitude to live beneath their means because there’s not as much of a disgust factor in Mexican culture.

Meanwhile, in AA culture you have people constantly living beyond their means because the disgust factor is such an issue. “Oh he’s broke as fukk”, “Oh he still lives with his fam”, “Oh he wears wranglers, hell nah.” shyt just isn’t the same in Mexican culture when a generation or two ago your fam was living in a dusty ass mud house with chickens in the back yard.

Mexicans also know trades and aren’t above working the blue collar shyt (not saying all AAs are either...but I have lots of friends and family who straight up say they won’t fukk with blue collar jobs).

It makes sense if you think about it- the cash flow situation working a blue collar job looks a lot different if you’re paying a third of the rent / utilities / car note, etc. Mexicans share ALLLLL of that shyt. I dated a Mexican girl and her family stayed using her car like it was a rental.

Also, again, because of the culture, as a black man your sex / dating / relationship prospects also look a lot different in one of those blue collar jobs than if Mexican.

Obviously there are lots of historical reasons why modern AA culture is the way it is, but at some point we have to confront it WHILE ALSO confronting the systemic issues we face. As long as we remain apologists for the culture, shyt will never change.

As I mentioned, our unique history in this country makes it such that the traditional avenues / protections that other minority groups have available (food, language, etc.) just aren’t there. When that’s the case, your culture has to be on point - which is a catch 22 because that IS the culture.

I try to think of another group in history that’s been in the same position and can’t.

African Americans have their own independent culture, but a lot of people, including it sounds like you; don't want to acknowledge it.

Fwiw, the USA only got about 6% of all slaves in the slave trade; the remaining 93%+ went to the Caribbean and South America. Of the 6% that did come to the USA; most were heavily Mande people from upper and lower Guinea. Up to 60% of all the slaves that came to the USA came through ports in South Carolina.
African American Heritage - Charleston SC

So we know where the people were from and we know who they were (mostly Mande people and 33% or more them were Muslim); and we know why the English focused on procuring them as war prisoners in West Africa in order to make them slaves in the USA; which was to grow rice. They were also excellent at other farming like growing cotton, peppers, etc; and at livestock (horses and cattle).
The Gullah: Rice, Slavery, and the Sierra Leone-American Connection | The Gilder Lehrman Center for the Study of Slavery, Resistance, and Abolition

It is from there that we get the Gullah Geeche culture that is in North Carolina, South Carolina and Georgia. They are heavily descended from Mande people and they brought Mande traditions and culture with them to the Americas. Mande culture include foods like rice based dishes like Jambalaya, Hoppin John, Gumbo, etc. Mande people didn't eat pork, because many were Muslim so all that pork stuff came from White people in the Americas. Mande music includes stuff like the Blues, Country, Rock and Roll; Rap, etc. In fact the slaves brought the banjo to the USA.

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The rest of your post is just just thinking that the grass is greener on the other side of the fence. But the biggest mistake that you make, is in thinking that AAs really don't have an independent traditional culture, because the Gullah-Geeche culture is a Mande based culture, which is independent and they have their own language, which is where the Southern accent started.
Project MUSE - Bound to Africa: the Mandinka Legacy in the New World

Oh yea the Mande people are the founders of the Empires of Ghana, Mali and Songhay. AAs have a lot in common with Mande people including traditions of extended families and building colleges out of their churches (in the case of Mandingos building colleges out of mosques).
 

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This is sad. We still aren't motivated during the Trump era. I don't know what has to happen to wake Black people up.

Well at least our Black women are completely lapping us also :francis:
Ima just say this because I don’t want the thread to take a turn...

Black women are lapping black men in educational outcomes.

Black women are lagging black men in financial / economic outcomes.

Education is a means to an end, not the end itself. So is employment. Black people trip up on this.
 

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White Cubans are a very small percentage of the US's Hispanic population. And for that matter white Hispanics. The overwhelming majority of Hispanics in the US are mestizos from Mexico/Central America/South America or mulattos from PR/DR.

Those mestizos are treated like dirt. Those White Cubans are more influential.
 
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