Report: Florida man beat child with belt because of school grades

[Loose]

While I got my ass whooped with anything under the sun I don't think it's a needed tactic. Imo if you have to grab switches and shyt to put your children in line, you're parenting wrong.

 

[concise]

Black men are in prison because KKKacs run the police departments. Don't use arrests as proof of anything about black people. other than police are more likely to arrest us than white people for the same offenses or for nothing in some cases.

Facts.
The reaching arguments of some of these posters is crazy.
I'd bet in another thread, they'll draw up a conclusion of something that a lot of black people do like using washcloths or seasoning their chicken is more likely to get their kids locked up. It's all about unequal enforcement of the laws.

And these others comparing adults and children ... in what world are adults treated exactly the same as children?

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

This is just a specific group of parents though. That doesn't apply to a lot of parents. And there are plenty of parents outside of the fail to plan, day by day parenting that spank or whoop their kids. That doesn't make it right at all but of course it's wrong when you discuss people who are already defined as bad parents.

A face smack can be warranted. Now to bytch slap, or pimp slap a child, not very likely. When my niece was teething she clenched down on my shouleer, I gave her a pop. Her jaw didn't click together, her head didn't fly back, she didn't get a swollen face or bloody lip. It was just a tap with a "don't bite" I doubt she reacted to any pain but more so being physically redirected.

I can see how my example is different, I wasn't trying to hurt her. When I smacked her hand years later cause she was dancing in the kitchen, I wasn't trying to hurt her, but I wanted her to have a physical reminder, physiological reaction. So I did that. I smacked her hand. When she cried, I gave her a hug. I explained why I smacked her and told her, "I'd rather smack your hand then you get burned on the stove...watch what happens (then I put the deli meat on the stove and picked her up so she could see what happened)".

People go too far. Beating on kids and others until they are begging and pleading, crying, yelling and screaming. Whooping them for longer than 3 minutes, berating them, insulting them.

You can spank your child and get the point across without all of that. People that abuse their children and others who appropriately physically redirect their children can't be lumped into the same category.

I still feel like the care and explanation you took the time to do did 99.999999% of the work, but ultimately I think you head and heart are in the right place. I still don't agree with even spanking kids but I can't knock your approach completely. I disagree that most people who spank their kids are as thoughtful or compassionate though and ultimately people just use spanking as their own emotional outlet for their frustrations with their kids rather than an actual tool of discipline. I don't believe in it

 

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[Wildin]

A child is "whooped" a hundred times before someone steps in.

If a child is getting 100 whoopins thats bad parenting but then again the child is not innocent.

The coli likes to play this game where the child is sitting in his room quietly playing with toys and dad or mom kicks in the door and start whooping them out the blue for no reason.

If your grades are bad, youre getting whooped.
If you lied, your getting whooped.
Cuss, yiure getting whooped.
Do something you were not to do, yiure getting whooped.
Stole something, your getting whooped.
Didn't do something you were told to do, your getting whooped.

Even as fickle as they are, they are legitimate reasons.

Kids test limits and push boundaries. They know it, they are consciously aware they do it. They know when they are doing something bad or something they shouldnt do, or something wrong.

It's rare that a kid is getting whooped even by inefficient parents and they are like " what's wrong? What did I do? Why are you doing this!?"

100 whoopins is 1 whoopin a month for 8 years. That means you as a child have a problem. You shouldnt be getting whooped that much.

It's human nature to learn how to survive, your either going to do your homework, hide your progress reports, lie, clean your room, don't talk back or talk quieter...your going to change something about you to avoid getting whooped. Deviance starts at a young age, you could just be a deviant ass child.

Assuming your parent isn't a deviant who just like to abuse and harm people, physically, emotionally, psychologically, its typically a 2 way street and at some point you gotta accept that.

 

[GPBear]

All y'all advocating child abuse are some low-life pieces of

It's a fukkin grade, he's like in upper-elementary school.

How many of y'all can remember your grades in 6th grade?

How many of those grades mattered?

Pointless stupidity.

 

[Wildin]

ultimately people just use spanking as their own emotional outlet for their frustrations with their kids rather than an actual tool of discipline. I don't believe in it

That happens. Like I said, the guy that comes home stressed out from work and his kid chases his little sister through the house despite being told literally hundreds of times not to, little sister bumps her head on the table. Dad's pissed that daughter is hurt, worse yet is her older brother who's supposed to look out for her failed, and he's told him hundreds of times not to run in the house, not to chase his sister through the house, and he's pissed about work, and the bills or whatever needs to be fixed around the house, he decides to hit his kid. Boom...hits him a little harder than he anticipated. His him more times than he anticipated. Lost control.

You've got to know yourself. You have to know your triggers and your limits.

Positive rewards work the same way. Emotional outlets. You can give your kid a hug or a treat because they did good and or made you feel happy.

People who don't spank can be just as neglectful or abusive without ever physically harming the child. That and people respond to different things. Some kids a spanking is 100% effective as a means of punishment (reactive) and prevention (proactive, they wont do it again), yet some kids react to simply a parent raising their voice and or using a stern tone.

People in this thread are only half joking when they say they'd rather be hit then lectured and talked to, because in some of those situations hearing how angry, upset, sad, you made mom's or pops feel is/was legit . Some people are mentally and emotionally tough and physically weak. Some are physically tough but mentally and emotionally soft. A lot are within a healthy threshold of both but individual events early in life mold people different.

 

[the bossman]

That and people respond to different things. Some kids a spanking is 100% effective as a means of punishment (reactive) and prevention (proactive, they wont do it again), yet some kids react to simply a parent raising their voice and or using a stern tone.

That's what it comes down to. Certain techniques work better for certain kids.

 

[Pedro Negro]

My father used to beat my ass all the time when I was a kid and now that I'm a parent........I could never. Some people may think it's soft, but if you ask me, to beat a child, that's some straight up cowardly shyt right there.

My child already respects me without me having to get physical with them and even if they didn't, that's not the route to go in my opinion, for numerous reasons.

One obvious side effect IMO is violence breeds violence and if you teach them to handle things in that manner they'll emulate that same behavior when they have an issue with someone. I'm a pretty chill dude, but the years I was getting beat as a child I used to scrap in the schoolyard daily for any and everything. Highly doubt my anger and aggression towards other kids I had beef with was a coincidence.

Sidenote: My father got kicked out when I was 13. I didn't see him again until we crossed paths one random afternoon when I was 17 and proceeded to beat the brakes off him right there on Myrtle Ave. Karma always works it's way around brehs, so love and RESPECT your children Coli brehs

 

[Wildin]

That's what it comes down to. Certain techniques work better for certain kids.

Humans naturally receive physical redirection in life.

Just the other day I burned myself a couple times with my soldering iron. My lesson was to be more careful.

You can tell a child not to play with the dog or cat too rough or don't pull their tail or pet them the wrong way. You can explain it all day but until they inevitably get scratched or bit. They don't fully understand.

But some people are going to equate a nip or a scratch to a mauling and a serious slashing and think that makes a large segment of the population fearful of cats and/or dogs. Wounds heal, often without trauma. People are resilient, they grow up and move on.

 

[calixprynce]

my friends and i got our ass beat for bad grades. Middle eastern families dont play around but now we all MD, JD, engineers.

you aint got no gun..... but where the weed at?

 

[calixprynce]

Personally don't regret my whoopings/spankings because I usually earned them. Parents were always fair.

I got straight As...if my grades dipped to Bs then momma took away the Playstation...no Madden 97 or Metal Gear. That shyt got me right back on track.

Metal Gear


nikka ma momma broke our Dreamcast cuz she wanted the power cord to whoop us with. I'll never forget it nikka i was playin Silent Scope

 

[Rockstar Mom]

How exactly is a whooping supposed to make his grades better?

If his grades are bad, he’s clearly struggling and not understanding his work. The father should’ve gotten a damn tutor, instead of a belt.

This is a parenting fail.

 

[NotAnFBIagent]

Welts all over and bruises on the chest is a spanking?

These nikkas don't read anything but the title

 

[Easy-E]

If a child is getting 100 whoopins thats bad parenting but then again the child is not innocent.

I should've stopped reading here, but, I'm hoping you have a better point that this.

If a child is getting 100 whoopins thats bad parenting but then again the child is not innocent.

The coli likes to play this game where the child is sitting in his room quietly playing with toys and dad or mom kicks in the door and start whooping them out the blue for no reason.

If your grades are bad, youre getting whooped.
If you lied, your getting whooped.
Cuss, yiure getting whooped.
Do something you were not to do, yiure getting whooped.
Stole something, your getting whooped.
Didn't do something you were told to do, your getting whooped.

Even as fickle as they are, they are legitimate reasons.

Kids test limits and push boundaries. They know it, they are consciously aware they do it. They know when they are doing something bad or something they shouldnt do, or something wrong.

It's rare that a kid is getting whooped even by inefficient parents and they are like " what's wrong? What did I do? Why are you doing this!?"

100 whoopins is 1 whoopin a month for 8 years. That means you as a child have a problem. You shouldnt be getting whooped that much.

It's human nature to learn how to survive, your either going to do your homework, hide your progress reports, lie, clean your room, don't talk back or talk quieter...your going to change something about you to avoid getting whooped. Deviance starts at a young age, you could just be a deviant ass child.

Assuming your parent isn't a deviant who just like to abuse and harm people, physically, emotionally, psychologically, its typically a 2 way street and at some point you gotta accept that.

So you you answer hyperbole with hyperbole.

It's rare that kids don't understand why they're getting whooped? You're sheltered. You think it's crazy people think children "are angels," but you think child abuse is rare?

"Deviance"??? My guy, you're basically using weird 70's psedu-science.

If your grades are bad, youre getting whooped.
If you lied, your getting whooped.
Cuss, yiure getting whooped.
Do something you were not to do, yiure getting whooped.
Stole something, your getting whooped.
Didn't do something you were told to do, your getting whooped.

You're not teaching a kid shyt by answering these with physical violence. You're teaching them to fear you and associate faults and shortcomings with violence.

I really want to go in, but, this post starts and ends ridiculously.

I'm still dying at "the child is not innocent"

We talking a muhfukka who may not have been on this earth longer than Barack Obama was president

Lemme guess "HE/SHE SHOULD KNOW BETTER "

Just black people? I know the everyone else does it too argument is silly. But they do. And they still have their criminals and murders as well as their scholars and philanthropists.

This is a black board. And the whooping conversation I have is amongst black people.

White people beat the shyt out of, maim and murder their children. You don't have an argument here.

The purpose of that post is that it's 2020 and black people I talk to and overhear (via podcasts, in person, social media, etc.) can fathom an evolution in child rearing.

ESPECIALLY since there is no empirical evidence that capital punishment makes for better people.